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Scott Seidman August 23rd, 2004 05:45 PM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 
"Jeff Durham" wrote in news:L_nWc.43$0J6.5
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:

Absolutely nothing. However, this thread was about PETA.

Jeff


"AJH" wrote in message
...
Just what does eating Doves and abortions have to do with bass fishing?


Git-R-Done




OK, then how is their anti-dove hunting contradictory to thier overall
mission? They think, and have always thought, hunting for food is not a
good thing.

Scott

Jeff Durham August 23rd, 2004 06:10 PM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 
From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.

Jeff


"Scott Seidman" wrote in message
. 1.4...
"Jeff Durham" wrote in news:L_nWc.43$0J6.5
@fe1.columbus.rr.com:

Absolutely nothing. However, this thread was about PETA.

Jeff


"AJH" wrote in message
...
Just what does eating Doves and abortions have to do with bass fishing?


Git-R-Done




OK, then how is their anti-dove hunting contradictory to thier overall
mission? They think, and have always thought, hunting for food is not a
good thing.

Scott




Scott Seidman August 23rd, 2004 07:20 PM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 
"Jeff Durham" wrote in
:

From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but
not to kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the
contradiction, then you and I operate on a completely different value
system.



Actually, PETA itself has no policy on abortion. PETA members are free
to decide upon that issue as they see fit. Similarly, they have no
policy on drivers licenses for immigrants, athlete doping (unless the
doping agents are animal-tested, I suppose), child labor, stadium seating
at concerts, and a host of other things. Do the Right to Life folks have
a policy on animal domestication? Perhaps the PETA folks feel that every
animal that can express the desire to terminate a pregnancy should be
entitled to a free abortion.

If you need to attack PETA on hypocracy, attack their use of animal-
tested medicine when they get sick, and for every other positive aspect
of responsible animal use that they take advantage of.

Better yet, criticize them on their current stances, like support of the
Animal Liberation Front (maybe we can shut down PETA under some of the
new anti terrorism campaigns, or freeze their bank accounts, if we can
demonstrate a clear financial link to the ALF). Criticize their
promotion of vegetarianism as unhealthy to developing children.
Criticize their animal research policies for threatening development in
medical treatment. Criticize their actions for removing just about every
animal lab from medical education (yeah, most procedures done by doctors
in training are performed for the first time on humans, these days--
when you get sutured in an ER by a young resident, that might be the
first time he or she is suturing in living tissue!). Tell them about how
hunting bans cause unstable ecosystems. Tell them about the million
pounds of venison that went to feeding the hungry in NY last year.

There are perfectly valid criticisms on their real stances-- we don't
have to find new ones, particularly about positions they don't endorse.

Scott

Scott Seidman August 23rd, 2004 07:20 PM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 
"Jeff Durham" wrote in
:

From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but
not to kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the
contradiction, then you and I operate on a completely different value
system.



Actually, PETA itself has no policy on abortion. PETA members are free
to decide upon that issue as they see fit. Similarly, they have no
policy on drivers licenses for immigrants, athlete doping (unless the
doping agents are animal-tested, I suppose), child labor, stadium seating
at concerts, and a host of other things. Do the Right to Life folks have
a policy on animal domestication? Perhaps the PETA folks feel that every
animal that can express the desire to terminate a pregnancy should be
entitled to a free abortion.

If you need to attack PETA on hypocracy, attack their use of animal-
tested medicine when they get sick, and for every other positive aspect
of responsible animal use that they take advantage of.

Better yet, criticize them on their current stances, like support of the
Animal Liberation Front (maybe we can shut down PETA under some of the
new anti terrorism campaigns, or freeze their bank accounts, if we can
demonstrate a clear financial link to the ALF). Criticize their
promotion of vegetarianism as unhealthy to developing children.
Criticize their animal research policies for threatening development in
medical treatment. Criticize their actions for removing just about every
animal lab from medical education (yeah, most procedures done by doctors
in training are performed for the first time on humans, these days--
when you get sutured in an ER by a young resident, that might be the
first time he or she is suturing in living tissue!). Tell them about how
hunting bans cause unstable ecosystems. Tell them about the million
pounds of venison that went to feeding the hungry in NY last year.

There are perfectly valid criticisms on their real stances-- we don't
have to find new ones, particularly about positions they don't endorse.

Scott

Marty August 24th, 2004 06:12 AM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 

"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
...
From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not

to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the

contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.


Many pro-lifers who preach about the sanctity of life are enthusiastic
supporters of capital punishment and war. Is that contradictory?



Marty August 24th, 2004 06:12 AM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 

"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
...
From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not

to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the

contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.


Many pro-lifers who preach about the sanctity of life are enthusiastic
supporters of capital punishment and war. Is that contradictory?



Mudfish\(Co30\) August 24th, 2004 12:24 PM

report on PETA
 
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

http://wave.prohosting.com/antiar/peta1.html

Yum
--
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www.kennebecriverguide.com
"Careful with that Axe Eugene."





"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
m...
Posted by NAFC newsletter.

GALVESTON, TX-An anti-fishing billboard placed along Interstate 45 in
Galveston, Texas, will be removed because of numerous complaints from
motorists, Viacom Outdoor announced last week. The billboard featured a
photo of a dog with a fish hook through its lip with the accompanying
message, "If you wouldn't do this to a dog, why do it to a fish?"

The billboard, paid for by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
(PETA), went up earlier this month and was the first in the group's

national
anti-fishing campaign.

PETA Sucks. They do not want any of us to fish ever. If you support this
group I suggest you post somewhere else because you are against everything
we hold dear.


"bill a" wrote in message
m...
ran across this item, in case you haven't seen it.

bill
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/artic...fm?article=156






Mudfish\(Co30\) August 24th, 2004 12:24 PM

report on PETA
 
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

http://wave.prohosting.com/antiar/peta1.html

Yum
--
{{Kennebecriverguide{('

www.kennebecriverguide.com
"Careful with that Axe Eugene."





"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
m...
Posted by NAFC newsletter.

GALVESTON, TX-An anti-fishing billboard placed along Interstate 45 in
Galveston, Texas, will be removed because of numerous complaints from
motorists, Viacom Outdoor announced last week. The billboard featured a
photo of a dog with a fish hook through its lip with the accompanying
message, "If you wouldn't do this to a dog, why do it to a fish?"

The billboard, paid for by People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals
(PETA), went up earlier this month and was the first in the group's

national
anti-fishing campaign.

PETA Sucks. They do not want any of us to fish ever. If you support this
group I suggest you post somewhere else because you are against everything
we hold dear.


"bill a" wrote in message
m...
ran across this item, in case you haven't seen it.

bill
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/artic...fm?article=156






Scott Seidman August 24th, 2004 01:04 PM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 
"Marty" wrote in news:k7AWc.2191$Lw3.1985
@news01.roc.ny:


"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
...
From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not

to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the

contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.


Many pro-lifers who preach about the sanctity of life are enthusiastic
supporters of capital punishment and war. Is that contradictory?




No more contradictory than suppressing education about birth control.

Scott

Scott Seidman August 24th, 2004 01:04 PM

report on PETA -- PETA contradiction
 
"Marty" wrote in news:k7AWc.2191$Lw3.1985
@news01.roc.ny:


"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
...
From PETA's warped perspective, it's okay to kill unborn babies, but not

to
kill doves (or fish) for food or sport. If you don't see the

contradiction,
then you and I operate on a completely different value system.


Many pro-lifers who preach about the sanctity of life are enthusiastic
supporters of capital punishment and war. Is that contradictory?




No more contradictory than suppressing education about birth control.

Scott


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