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Charlie Wilson November 2nd, 2004 08:36 PM

Camping stuff
 

"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.


Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives out.



BJ Conner November 2nd, 2004 08:49 PM

Camping stuff
 
"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...
"Larry L" wrote in message
...
Well, my camping has been in two, very different styles. (1)When I was
young ...backpacking and mountaineering, bivy bags, MSR stoves, etc (2)
For my business and in my current not young state .. travel trailer, TV,
microwave, generator, shower, etc

But, each of the last few summers I've wanted to go visit a stream(s)
where taking the trailer was too big a pain, or no place to park it
exists. And my bivy bag days are long gone ... comfort is priority #1
for this old grump.

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing
to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of storage room in my
truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to consider getting and
taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent camping mode.

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred


Coleman's two burner gasoline stove is still the best I've seen for camp
cooking. A lot of people prefer the newer propane models. John told me a
couple of weeks ago in NC that he refills his propane tanks, thus
eliminating one of my major objections to them, but others remain. Propane
cylinders don't deliver fuel very well at below freezing temperatures. And
I've never seen a propane burning stove that puts out the heat of gasoline
models. Gasoline.....despite the recent rape of the American consumer....is
also still cheaper than propane. I used one of the gasoline models for
thirty-five years, until it was lost somehow.....it still worked
beautifully.

Coleman also makes excellent gasoline fueled lamps that put out a LOT of
light and burn for a long time.

As long as weight isn't a consideration, you can't beat cast iron for
cookware. It's virtually indestructible, cheap, thick enough to minimize
hot spots, and you can cook directly in the campfire if necessary or
desirable. Lodge makes a very diverse line of high quality cast iron
cookware. At the very least, you should have a cast iron Dutch oven....the
model with the flat top with a raised edge. These are designed specifically
to cook in a bed of hot coals.....the raised rim on the lid makes it
possible to heap coals on top. This makes it ideal for baking.

Wolfgang

Ole took a skydiving class and when he fihished he went up for his
first soll jump. He dove out of the airplane and pulled the ripcord.
The chute
emerged, tangled, and he cut it free. He then pulled the cord on the
reserve chute, and it also was tangled. He prayed to his God and
looked
down to the ground below. To his amazement, a woman was coming up with
equal velocity. "Hey, you know anything about parachutes?" he shouted
to her, as they passed by. The reply: "No... you know anything about
Coleman stoves?"

BJ Conner November 2nd, 2004 08:49 PM

Camping stuff
 
"Wolfgang" wrote in message ...
"Larry L" wrote in message
...
Well, my camping has been in two, very different styles. (1)When I was
young ...backpacking and mountaineering, bivy bags, MSR stoves, etc (2)
For my business and in my current not young state .. travel trailer, TV,
microwave, generator, shower, etc

But, each of the last few summers I've wanted to go visit a stream(s)
where taking the trailer was too big a pain, or no place to park it
exists. And my bivy bag days are long gone ... comfort is priority #1
for this old grump.

So, I'm thinking of getting a minimal amount of in-between "car camping"
gear so that I can leave the trailer and go stay in the Slough Creek
campground ( example) for a night or two and thus make the FDR ( fishing
to driving ratio ) reasonable. I have plenty of storage room in my
truck, but I'd like suggestions on what I need to consider getting and
taking to be reasonably comfortable in tent camping mode.

Fellow roffians ( ok I'm just a fringe roffian, but you get the idea ) how
about a car/tent camping check list? Be specific if a particular brand/
type of item is preferred


Coleman's two burner gasoline stove is still the best I've seen for camp
cooking. A lot of people prefer the newer propane models. John told me a
couple of weeks ago in NC that he refills his propane tanks, thus
eliminating one of my major objections to them, but others remain. Propane
cylinders don't deliver fuel very well at below freezing temperatures. And
I've never seen a propane burning stove that puts out the heat of gasoline
models. Gasoline.....despite the recent rape of the American consumer....is
also still cheaper than propane. I used one of the gasoline models for
thirty-five years, until it was lost somehow.....it still worked
beautifully.

Coleman also makes excellent gasoline fueled lamps that put out a LOT of
light and burn for a long time.

As long as weight isn't a consideration, you can't beat cast iron for
cookware. It's virtually indestructible, cheap, thick enough to minimize
hot spots, and you can cook directly in the campfire if necessary or
desirable. Lodge makes a very diverse line of high quality cast iron
cookware. At the very least, you should have a cast iron Dutch oven....the
model with the flat top with a raised edge. These are designed specifically
to cook in a bed of hot coals.....the raised rim on the lid makes it
possible to heap coals on top. This makes it ideal for baking.

Wolfgang

Ole took a skydiving class and when he fihished he went up for his
first soll jump. He dove out of the airplane and pulled the ripcord.
The chute
emerged, tangled, and he cut it free. He then pulled the cord on the
reserve chute, and it also was tangled. He prayed to his God and
looked
down to the ground below. To his amazement, a woman was coming up with
equal velocity. "Hey, you know anything about parachutes?" he shouted
to her, as they passed by. The reply: "No... you know anything about
Coleman stoves?"

riverman November 2nd, 2004 08:57 PM

Camping stuff
 

"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
...

"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.


Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on
D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives
out.



I heard of those installed inflators developing a leak and going flat in the
middle of the night. Seems weird to attach a complex, failable device to a
simple, foolproof one. I prefer the external inflator.

That being said, one advantage is that you can 'top up' the mattress in the
night if it goes soft. But not if you're camping, only if you and SWMBO are
fueding.

--riverman



riverman November 2nd, 2004 08:57 PM

Camping stuff
 

"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
...

"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.


Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on
D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives
out.



I heard of those installed inflators developing a leak and going flat in the
middle of the night. Seems weird to attach a complex, failable device to a
simple, foolproof one. I prefer the external inflator.

That being said, one advantage is that you can 'top up' the mattress in the
night if it goes soft. But not if you're camping, only if you and SWMBO are
fueding.

--riverman



riverman November 2nd, 2004 08:57 PM

Camping stuff
 

"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
...

"brians" wrote:
Ditto both Charlie and Bruce, but i'll add that you can buy an air
mattress with a built-in, mini air compressor. Just plug it into a
cigarette lighter, and you're good to go. Saves energy for important
things like beer and whiskey.


Coleman sells an inflator that screws into the intake vent. It runs on
D
cell batteries and inflates a king size in about a minute. I'll buy a
mattress with a built in inflator if my six year old Coleman ever gives
out.



I heard of those installed inflators developing a leak and going flat in the
middle of the night. Seems weird to attach a complex, failable device to a
simple, foolproof one. I prefer the external inflator.

That being said, one advantage is that you can 'top up' the mattress in the
night if it goes soft. But not if you're camping, only if you and SWMBO are
fueding.

--riverman



Joe McIntosh November 2nd, 2004 10:09 PM

Camping stuff
 

"rw" wrote in message
I use a pop-up Northstar cab-over camper on my F150, , an outdoor shower
(which I haven't yet used),


several of your fellow campers suggested you ought to try it!
A friend



Joe McIntosh November 2nd, 2004 10:09 PM

Camping stuff
 

"rw" wrote in message
I use a pop-up Northstar cab-over camper on my F150, , an outdoor shower
(which I haven't yet used),


several of your fellow campers suggested you ought to try it!
A friend



Cyli November 3rd, 2004 12:15 AM

Camping stuff
 
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:59:51 -0500, Frank Reid
wrote:

I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL
I have room to store stuff underneath, I'm off the ground, out of the
reach of shorter bears and its very comfortable. An eggshell foam cover
would also help keep you warm.
I got the Tent Ma Hall just so I could use this. Very nice.



Being but a poor weak woman, and old besides, I'd do myself damage
getting that into my tent. Not so much into the tent as in and out of
the truck. So I have the Cabela's Big Lux tent for truck camping and
later got a lower, smaller, lighter cheapo one that I may use in the
smaller tent and/or for canoe camping. They're all better than the
ground as far as getting up and getting out of the tent. I don't
even have to wish for my wading staff to pull myself up when I emerge
from the tent.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)

Cyli November 3rd, 2004 12:15 AM

Camping stuff
 
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:59:51 -0500, Frank Reid
wrote:

I use one of these with a cheapo sleeping bag underneath my regular bag.
http://shorterlink.com/?T0J7ZL
I have room to store stuff underneath, I'm off the ground, out of the
reach of shorter bears and its very comfortable. An eggshell foam cover
would also help keep you warm.
I got the Tent Ma Hall just so I could use this. Very nice.



Being but a poor weak woman, and old besides, I'd do myself damage
getting that into my tent. Not so much into the tent as in and out of
the truck. So I have the Cabela's Big Lux tent for truck camping and
later got a lower, smaller, lighter cheapo one that I may use in the
smaller tent and/or for canoe camping. They're all better than the
ground as far as getting up and getting out of the tent. I don't
even have to wish for my wading staff to pull myself up when I emerge
from the tent.

Cyli
r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels.
Often taunted by trout.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli
email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)


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