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Thomas Schreiber December 2nd, 2004 06:12 AM

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Nice tail, but isnt the fish a bit thin? Did you release him/her again?
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I wouldn't know about the thin tail, not an expert on steelies, had
nothing
to compare to.
Also my first time eating steelhead, they taste great.

I'll be on the Klamath next year for salmon.
-tom


I didnt say anything about a thin tail :o) Read my post again.


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JR December 2nd, 2004 06:36 AM

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Tom Nakashima wrote in message
...

Also my first time eating steelhead, they taste great.


Yes they do. How'd you fix the one in the picture? Grilled on the
BBQ, I hope. If not, then you've got another wonderful first still in
store.

JR



Scott Seidman December 2nd, 2004 01:05 PM

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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
:

It's one steelie per day, so we released the others unharmed.
The fish in the picture weighed 8.6 lbs., the others were smaller.
I was surprised on the pull from the fish on the 6w, and had the drag
set light cause I was using 4x tippet. Took about 13 min. to bring
in. I wouldn't know about the thin tail, not an expert on steelies,
had nothing to compare to.
Also my first time eating steelhead, they taste great.



Tom--

A 6 wt is undergunning for steelhead, and you probably want to move up to a
tippet in the 0X-2X range

Scott

brians December 2nd, 2004 08:49 PM

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Scott Seidman wrote:

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
:


It's one steelie per day, so we released the others unharmed.
The fish in the picture weighed 8.6 lbs., the others were smaller.
I was surprised on the pull from the fish on the 6w, and had the drag
set light cause I was using 4x tippet. Took about 13 min. to bring
in. I wouldn't know about the thin tail, not an expert on steelies,
had nothing to compare to.
Also my first time eating steelhead, they taste great.




Tom--

A 6 wt is undergunning for steelhead, and you probably want to move up to a
tippet in the 0X-2X range

Scott


Scott,

On that piece of water, there are times when small nymphs are about the
only productive fly to use. With little rain, they have very low, and
clear water conditions. Not many new fish are in the systems, and the
ones that are, are getting pounded. 4X and small flies can be the only
game in town at times. 0X might not even go through the eye of the hook. ;-)

brians


Peter Charles December 2nd, 2004 09:40 PM

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On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:49:08 -0800, brians wrote:

Scott Seidman wrote:

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
:


It's one steelie per day, so we released the others unharmed.
The fish in the picture weighed 8.6 lbs., the others were smaller.
I was surprised on the pull from the fish on the 6w, and had the drag
set light cause I was using 4x tippet. Took about 13 min. to bring
in. I wouldn't know about the thin tail, not an expert on steelies,
had nothing to compare to.
Also my first time eating steelhead, they taste great.




Tom--

A 6 wt is undergunning for steelhead, and you probably want to move up to a
tippet in the 0X-2X range

Scott


Scott,

On that piece of water, there are times when small nymphs are about the
only productive fly to use. With little rain, they have very low, and
clear water conditions. Not many new fish are in the systems, and the
ones that are, are getting pounded. 4X and small flies can be the only
game in town at times. 0X might not even go through the eye of the hook. ;-)

brians



You guys should consider using Yorkshire wets then in around sizes 12
and 14. The Credit at Erindale Park gets heavily pounded yet I've
found that these "stale" steelhead will move to take a P&O or similar
fly in the smaller sizes. Beats watching a bobber.



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Scott Seidman December 2nd, 2004 10:15 PM

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brians wrote in
:

Scott Seidman wrote:

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
:


It's one steelie per day, so we released the others unharmed.
The fish in the picture weighed 8.6 lbs., the others were smaller.
I was surprised on the pull from the fish on the 6w, and had the drag
set light cause I was using 4x tippet. Took about 13 min. to bring
in. I wouldn't know about the thin tail, not an expert on steelies,
had nothing to compare to.
Also my first time eating steelhead, they taste great.




Tom--

A 6 wt is undergunning for steelhead, and you probably want to move
up to a tippet in the 0X-2X range

Scott


Scott,

On that piece of water, there are times when small nymphs are about
the only productive fly to use. With little rain, they have very low,
and clear water conditions. Not many new fish are in the systems, and
the ones that are, are getting pounded. 4X and small flies can be the
only game in town at times. 0X might not even go through the eye of
the hook. ;-)

brians


My latest steelhead was caught on a size 10 or 12 stonefly nymph tied
onto 0X tippet. I think you'd be surprised about what can fit through a
hook eye. I do everything I can to keep the fight short. I think the
biggest fight-ender I have is the boga-grip my brother gave me when he
sold his boat. It cuts down the fight a ton, and it would make a good
priest if I want to take one home ;)

Scott

JR December 3rd, 2004 01:23 AM

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Peter Charles wrote

I've been fishing for steelies with a 6 wts too, but after getting

my
butt handed to me, I put it back in the closet. I don't think a 6

wt.
is compatible with C&R. I do think it is compatible if you intend

to
kill and eat the fish.


We'll have to disagree here. The vast majority of steelheading I do
is with a floating line for summer run fish that average 4-8 pounds
and rarely exceed 10-12 pounds. I think a 6wt, fished with 1X or 0X
by an angler willing to fight from the cork and break fish off if
necessary, is WAY more compatible with C&R fishing for average
WA/OR/CA summer runs than is an 8wt or 9wt fished with 4X. I wouldn't do
this if I weren't sure of it. Most of the rivers I fish in OR have both
hatchery fish, which are harvestable and wild fish, which must always be
released).

The only river I fish regularly that I wouldn't use a 6wt on for summer
fish is the North Umpqua, where the summer runs can be much bigger. If
I ever fish the Skeena, or some other BC systems, I'll fish 8 and 9
weights. Wind, weighted flies, sinking lines, and larger average fish
(e.g., here, winter runs), all call for a heavier rod.

JR









Ralph Heidecke December 3rd, 2004 01:41 AM

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"brians" wrote in message
...
Scott Seidman wrote:

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in

A 6 wt is undergunning for steelhead, and you probably want to move up

to a
tippet in the 0X-2X range

Scott


Scott,

On that piece of water, there are times when small nymphs are about the
only productive fly to use. With little rain, they have very low, and
clear water conditions. Not many new fish are in the systems, and the
ones that are, are getting pounded. 4X and small flies can be the only
game in town at times. 0X might not even go through the eye of the hook.

;-)

brians


a 6 weight is adequate for any steelhead up to the 10 or 12 lb mark provided
the river isn't the Thompson (which by thew photo this isn't) or you have to
use large flies and/or heavy heads to reach the fish.



Peter Charles December 3rd, 2004 02:28 AM

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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 17:23:58 -0800, "JR" wrote:

Peter Charles wrote

I've been fishing for steelies with a 6 wts too, but after getting

my
butt handed to me, I put it back in the closet. I don't think a 6

wt.
is compatible with C&R. I do think it is compatible if you intend

to
kill and eat the fish.


We'll have to disagree here. The vast majority of steelheading I do
is with a floating line for summer run fish that average 4-8 pounds
and rarely exceed 10-12 pounds. I think a 6wt, fished with 1X or 0X
by an angler willing to fight from the cork and break fish off if
necessary, is WAY more compatible with C&R fishing for average
WA/OR/CA summer runs than is an 8wt or 9wt fished with 4X. I wouldn't do
this if I weren't sure of it. Most of the rivers I fish in OR have both
hatchery fish, which are harvestable and wild fish, which must always be
released).

The only river I fish regularly that I wouldn't use a 6wt on for summer
fish is the North Umpqua, where the summer runs can be much bigger. If
I ever fish the Skeena, or some other BC systems, I'll fish 8 and 9
weights. Wind, weighted flies, sinking lines, and larger average fish
(e.g., here, winter runs), all call for a heavier rod.

JR


We don't get a summer run in the GLs except for a couple of MI rivers
that have a few Skamanias. I've heard of summer run fish out your way
and that they are taken on light tackle. Considering it's now
December, they weren't on my mind when I made that post.

If you believe the PNW snobs, our "ersatz" steelhead don't have the
balls of an ocean run fish. That said, I don't fish for GL steelhead
with a six weight anymore after the last butt spanking I took from a
hatchery fish. Maitland, Saugeen, and Grand steelhead are all
streamborn and much tougher than a hatchery fish. Just talking to two
American guys today who came up this way to fish for one or two wild
fish rather than catch bucket loads of hatchery footballs back home.
So there's something to be said for the difference.

The bigger of the two fish in the photos I posted, was taken on 6 lb.
Maxima, the other on 10 lb. When the water clears, we have to drop
down in size or we don't catch fish. That fish was landed in maximum
three minutes and most of that time was me wading over to shore. I'm
fishing with a 13'6" 9 wt. two-hander so that may have something to do
with quickly subduing a fish.

Peter

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rw December 3rd, 2004 02:40 AM

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Peter Charles wrote:

If you believe the PNW snobs, our "ersatz" steelhead don't have the
balls of an ocean run fish.


He can't help being condescending. :-)

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