On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:39:46 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

wrote:


I was just going to point out the same thing...of course, I suspect that
40 isn't nearly as devoted to Bud as he is starting ****, and also of
course, it's pretty easy to defend Bud as the "best of its style" since
the Busch family long ago cornered the Clydesdale market...

My maternal grandfather was...Adolf....child of
German immigrants....

ADOLF? ADOLF?! OY flockin' WEH!!

By-the-by, you might be just atwitter over "Gussie" and your perceived
ideas of some sort of noblesse oblige on his part, but I suspect neither
he or the current generation would stop to **** on you if you were on
fire unless there was some chance of loss to them - a sentiment I'm sure
you'll claim to return...the difference being that they'd never know or
care that you exist regardless of you blazing away or just blowing
smoke...

There were a
whole lot of Weckers and Steppigs, my relations, who worked
at Anheuser-Busch and to a man they had nothing but respect
and admiration for the Busch family.

Ya know, a whole bunch of the guys I know who are commanded by another
guy named Bush have nothing but respect and admiration for him...and
they voted for him from Iraq...

Beating ya to the punch,
Dickie

Ken Fortenberry wrote:

Why do you care ? I mean it's not like a great beer connoisseur
such as your ownself is actually gonna drink a Budweiser.

I'm pretty sure that Danl's drunk a Bub or two. In fact, I'm pretty sure
I've seen him drink one of Warren's (who always buys the cheapest ****
in the Stop-n-Go).

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

In article ,
says...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:


I gotta agree with Ken on this one. (Although it is kind of surreal to
hear Mr. Elite to rant about other people being snobs)


People who are very into something form "elitist" opinions as to what is
good or bad and these opinions generally differ widely from what the
average Joe thinks. This is true of lots of things - literature, movies,
music, fly rods, beer, wine, food, etc. etc. etc. There is no science
for ranking the "best" or "worst" or "good" or "bad" in any of these
things. Different tastes for different people.

Were it anyone but "Mr Elite" himself I'd agree. This is just too
blatantly hypocritical to let pass by though.
- Ken

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:21:57 GMT, rw
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:39:46 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:


wrote:


I was just going to point out the same thing...of course, I suspect that
40 isn't nearly as devoted to Bud as he is starting ****, and also of
course, it's pretty easy to defend Bud as the "best of its style" since
the Busch family long ago cornered the Clydesdale market...

My maternal grandfather was...Adolf....child of
German immigrants....


ADOLF? ADOLF?! OY flockin' WEH!!

He's playing the poor immigrant card.

Hey, speaking of cards, maybe you, he, and Wolfgang can get together for
a few hands...betwixt the three of y'all, they'd be _almost_ a full
deck...of Old Maids...

On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:34:17 GMT, rw
wrote:

wrote:

Hey, speaking of cards, maybe you, he, and Wolfgang can get together for
a few hands...betwixt the three of y'all, they'd be _almost_ a full
deck...of Old Maids...

Not gonzo enough.

But accurate enough.

"Willi" wrote in message
...
Ken Fortenberry wrote:


I gotta agree with Ken on this one. (Although it is kind of surreal to
hear Mr. Elite to rant about other people being snobs)

I can't keep from giggling about that part of it.

People who are very into something form "elitist" opinions as to what is
good or bad and these opinions generally differ widely from what the
average Joe thinks. This is true of lots of things - literature, movies,
music, fly rods, beer, wine, food, etc. etc. etc. There is no science
for ranking the "best" or "worst" or "good" or "bad" in any of these
things. Different tastes for different people.

Actually, in the case of beer and wine, and maybe some of the other
categories listed, there is a science for ranking "good" and "bad. In the
case of beer, organizations exist that define beer "styles" and definitions
of what characteristics those "styles" must or must/must not and may/may not
exhibit. These organizations offer formal classes to those that want to
learn more about beer and/or become judges of beer competitions.
Competitions are held with the intent of making the best beer in a given
style per the style guidelines.

Other competitions are held to see who are the best judges. To be certified,
judges must pass tests to prove that they can taste the difference between
style A and styles B thru Z and that they are able to identify why a given
sample does or does not meet the style guidelines for a given style and what
technical problems, like various infections, might be apparent in the
sample. I have taken most of the courses necessary to take the judges test,
but have never completed the task. It's harder than one might imagine. That
probably makes me a beer snob. OK, I can live with that. But when a panel of
certified beer judges rank a set of beers in a given category, the fact that
this beer is a better example of this style than that beer is a scholarly
endeavor and not just " I like bud and bud says bud is a Pilsener so bud is
a good Pilsener". The fact that, in a Pilsener competition, bud comes out
stinking like Wally's waders the day after MoosePoot Stew Night at the
Penn's Clave just tears up our Chowderhead of Chambana. Why, I don't know.
Lots of people drink bud. Good for them. If ya want to get drunk, its a
serviceable tool. If you want to drink a good Pilsener, bud ain't it.

If anyone is interested:

http://www.bjcp.org/

Danl

Glad to see ya posting, Willi! Don't be a stranger.

Danl wrote:
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... These organizations offer formal classes to those that want to
learn more about beer and/or become judges of beer competitions.

What a ridiculous bunch of idiotic bull****. Most of us don't
have to take formal classes to know what kind of beer we like.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. com...
Danl wrote:
snip
... These organizations offer formal classes to those that want to
learn more about beer and/or become judges of beer competitions.

What a ridiculous bunch of idiotic bull****. Most of us don't
have to take formal classes to know what kind of beer we like.

--
Ken Fortenberry

bud is a bad representative of a Pilsener. Classes on the subject would
help anyone know the difference between a good Pilsener and bud. Whether one
likes good Pilseners or bud is another matter.

The square root of -1 is an irrational number. Classes on the subject would
help anyone know the difference between rational and irrational numbers.
Whether one likes rational or irrational numbers is another matter.

Danl