Can't we just ignore him? He's going to hurt his arm patting himself on
the back.

Now there's a good idea. Besides, his stuff isnt in any stores around here,
darn. Guess I'm stuck throwing inferior bass lures lol.

Warren
--
http://tri-statebassmasters.com




"AJH" wrote in message
...
Can't we just ignore him? He's going to hurt his arm patting himself on
the back.

He has a PHD you know, unfortunately it stands for
"Piled Higher and Deeper"
He knows a few fact about bass and because of this it make his over priced,
over patented junk, junk we need?
He is a Master of Junk science.
Has anyone ever seen so much sh!t come out of one dog?
--
S

"Joe Haubenreich" joe at secretweaponlures.com wrote in message
...
Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this
issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and
ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is
worthwhile,
though, and

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Thank you Joe, you put it much more diplomatically and succinctly than I
would have.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Joe Haubenreich wrote:
Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this
issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and
ignore the acrimony that is going on here. ...

Well said, Joe, I am glad you weighed in.

--
Ken Fortenberry

If I'm bothering any of you guys I sincerely apologize; If I'm bothering
Rodney, good ;-)

Warren

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Joe Haubenreich" joe at secretweaponlures.com wrote in message
...
Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this
issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet
and
ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is
worthwhile,
though, and

SNIP

Thank you Joe, you put it much more diplomatically and succinctly than I
would have.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com

Joe, first off, I want to commend you for trying to keep this newsgroup
a friendlier place, even though you are setting yourself up as a target
for doing so. I think you found from my earlier email to you that I
give credit where it is due, but I also hold others accountable. It
sounds like you are saying that you think Rodney is trying to make a
contribution here. I will do my part if he will do his. I think you
will find that the harshest I have been lately is to say that I
preferred Al's rantings to Rodney's. If he wants to contribute, and act
civil, I think I can try to forget his many insults from the past, or
at least I can try not to bring them up. The questions a 1. Can he
keep from jumping out of everyone's killfile? 2. Can he post in such a
manner that he won't wind up in more killfiles?

"David Norton" wrote in message
. ..
It amazes me that you guys keep feeding this guy! I sit here day after day
convinced Rodney could not sell sno-cones in hell. There is an old saying,
" It is better to be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove
all doubt" Another is " If the shoe fits wear it!"

Well put. Now I remember why I rarely participate in this group anymore.
This has been one of the most childish bunch of crap I've read in a long
time. Fortunately not everyone in this group has participated in this bull
and post info worth reading.

go-bassn wrote:
If I'm bothering any of you guys I sincerely apologize; If I'm bothering
Rodney, good ;-)

Warren

You used to, but I will no longer go down to your level to defend
myself, you had a way to make me get down with you, but after this last
bunch of post I found out why, It's just your lack of knowledge, so from
now on, when you bash my products, I will counter with the techniques
used to fish them properly, so Warren each time you take a shot at me,,
just like you did at the start of all this, you will allow me to teach
others another way to fish, one that is much more productive, than your way.

By the way guys , I don't sell these products, the manufacturers do,
they put the prices on them, and Warren, we will see if we can get a
Bass Pro Shops, Gander Mt., or Cabella's out in your area.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Excellent post Joe.

"Joe Haubenreich" joe at secretweaponlures.com wrote in message
...
Fellers, I've read this thread reluctantly. I want to weigh in on this
issue, even though the safer and easier course would be to keep quiet and
ignore the acrimony that is going on here. I feel this group is
worthwhile,
though, and

I know that Rodney has an abrasive side to him. Several of us here do,
too.
And I know that some of the people ridiculing Rodney in this string has
been
personally offended in the past and so have a personal axe to grind with
him. Others just express distaste for his attitude. Well, we have a right
to
express opinions related to bass fishing, bass tackle, boats, etc. on this
group, and I guess we can stretch it to opinions about bass tackle
manufacturers.... but by now the point has been made repeatedly. The
repetitious Rodney-bashing going on here is getting tiresome.

It appears to me that Rodney has been offering some reasonable,
thoughtful,
coherent responses here, especially lately. What do you say we cut him
some
slack?

There aren't many fishing tackle manufacturers on this group. Lots of us
hold firm opinions about bass promoters, manufacturers, and pros. From
what
I've leaned over the past four or five years, it's clear to me that some
of
those opinions are unfounded. On the other hand, some of the things Rodney
has said have been right on target. If you're interested in gaining
insights
into the innovation, design, and manufacturing side of the industry, you
might want to pay attention to what Rodney has of value to share and
overlook the traits that you find personally distasteful.

I've learned several things from Rodney, and I have no problem with trying
new ideas... new lures... new knots, or whatever else he might suggest. I
urge us all... just take whatever of value we find here, and show a
measure
of grace and courtesy in the way we treat each other, and keep the
discussions on a higher plane, if possible.

Indiscrete, hurtful remarks and public ridicule or scorn rankle and
fester,
and it's hard to just drop them and move on with our lives. If you're
unable
to put them behind you, then please don't use this forum as your personal
soapbox to extract revenge or vent your spleen. Rodney doesn't hide his
e-mail address here.... If you have something against him, take it up with
him personally and leave us out of it.

Joe

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