Cyli wrote:

On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 09:53:54 -0500, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

Fair enough. :-) I'm thinking it could be reverse-engineered into
a decent "shaggy dog" joke. Maybe we'll put Frank to work on it.

We do not want Frank's blonde dog weeded. There is no telling how
he'll do things, you know...

I'm guessing it would involve flytying.

I went down to Texas about 6 years ago for a float on the Brazos below
the Possum Kingdom dam. I never saw so many men dressed for trout
fishing so pressed and starched. Even their waders looked as if
something to make them look fresh out of the box had been done to
them. So I kept an eye out. On my way home I stopped for breakfast
in a little town that had about 3 buildings. All the men there, who'd
obviously already been doing some work or were going out to do work,
looked the same in fresh and clean and presses. Same with any I
passed who were feeding horses or doing anything else in the outdoors.

Either Texas men have some weird sort of fetish about changing their
clothing with the regularity of the Victorian English gentlemen or
their women are all stay at homes who devote themselves to cleanliness
of wardrobes.

Both. :-)

With creases the men could use for razors. The only
recognizable things that had been worn at least once before were the
feed brand caps with bills. And some of those looked fresh.

On the other hand, the people who passed my campsite, who were all out
of state or college or big city types, dressed about the way that
people up here dress for the outdoors.

The amazing part to me is that they wear that attire in the heat we
have here. At the rodeo, I didn't see one "cowboy" even wearing a
short-sleeved shirt, and few had even rolled their sleeves up ... on an
evening where the temperature was in the upper nineties when the
festivities started. I don't know if it truly is a remnant of how a
ranch-hand dressed or not. I can see the merit of jeans and
long-sleeved shirts for protection.

Considering how I dress, I didn't even have to open my mouth and give
my northerly accent a try with the natives. I was a stranger. But
they were all nice to me.

Despite the typical image of Texans as arrogant assholes, I've found
that most of them (us? ... I've been here for 25 years now) are actually
very friendly and polite. It's the big-city folks and Yankee
transplants that you have to watch out for. :-)


Chuck Vance

"briansfly" wrote in message
news:FvCye.9012$Yb4.2517@trnddc08...
10 LBS!!! What are you eating and drinking...air? Do you have chlorophyl
skin? ;-) But seriously, a 10 lbs pack is REALLY light. I'm curious as
the what kind of gear your using.
brians

Links to the contents of my backpack:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_005.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_008.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_013.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_Scale_002.jpg

The list of what's inside the pack:
Whisperlite stove

Windblock heavy duty foil

Fuel Cell

1 plastic measuring cup

Titanium Pan with cover

Mountain House Dinner for 2

2 packages of oatmeal

Waterbottle

Water Filter

Package of Tissue

Pillow

Pillow Cover

Plastic Bag

1 underwear

1 pr socks

1 t-shirt

Tooth brush

Small Tube Toothpaste

Plastic Spoon

Matches

Mini flashlight

Compass

Knife with scissors

Magnifying glass

Whistle

Lightweight Jacket

Sleeping Bag

OR Sleeping Bag Bivy Sac

Fly Rod

Fly Reel



I pack in on Thursday July 28th after eating a huge breakfast before the
hike. Skip lunch and have 1/2 the freeze dried for dinner. Oatmeal the next
morning (July 29th), skip lunch and eat the other 1/2 of the freeze dried
dinner. Oatmeal again July 30th and pack out, unless I catch fish during my
trip, then I stay another night. I won't pack in water because of the
streams which I have the water purifier. After I'm on the road, I'll have a
good solid meal, but not at Denny's.

-tom

On 7/6/05 9:35 AM, in article , "Tom
Nakashima" wrote:


"briansfly" wrote in message
news:FvCye.9012$Yb4.2517@trnddc08...
10 LBS!!! What are you eating and drinking...air? Do you have chlorophyl
skin? ;-) But seriously, a 10 lbs pack is REALLY light. I'm curious as
the what kind of gear your using.
brians

Links to the contents of my backpack:

I bow down. Very nicely done.

jest
But of course my volume of Poetry Sure to Annoy Throughout the Ages, flask
of Balvenglenmorangieoig, and (among certain company) 9mm Rutger Howitzer
always add a pound or three.
/jest

Moral? Hike with others. Hide the cast iron on their pack. :-)

Bill
(no, you can't have my gorp.)

William Claspy wrote:
On 7/6/05 9:35 AM, in article , "Tom
Nakashima" wrote:


"briansfly" wrote in message
news:FvCye.9012$Yb4.2517@trnddc08...
10 LBS!!! What are you eating and drinking...air? Do you have
chlorophyl skin? ;-) But seriously, a 10 lbs pack is REALLY light.
I'm curious as the what kind of gear your using.
brians

Links to the contents of my backpack:

I bow down. Very nicely done.

jest
But of course my volume of Poetry Sure to Annoy Throughout the Ages,
snip

I found where you get your supply: http://tinyurl.com/3qmwf

The Ode to WC

See, see the Democrat sky
Marvel at its big hot pink depths.
Tell me, Bill Claspy do you
Wonder why the mole ignores you?
Why its foobly stare
makes you feel rested.
I can tell you, it is
Worried by your berschtinklefink facial growth
That looks like
Jello.
What's more, it knows
Your knob potting shed
Smells of peas.
Everything under the big Democrat sky
Asks why, why do you even bother?
You only charm worn waders.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...
Wolfgang wrote:

..."My Word" on Wisconsin Public Radio....

While the concept sounds great, I wonder how they were able to keep
such a show going on a regular basis. How many horrible puns can someone
take? :-)

The limits of the capacity of the human psyche to absorb punishment have yet
to be adequately tested. :)

...Thanks for the pointer to Stratton. From the looks of the excerpt from
his book on the NPR website, I want to read more.

Even from the bargain book shelf I figure it'll cost me 4-8 bucks. I
eagerly await your review.

Which reminds me, for those who are interested in musical portrayals of
the worst and best of Texas life, James McMurtry is an artist worth
checking out. (He's the son of that other McMurtry fellow, but I don't
hold it against him.) His songwriting is populated with a Faulkneresque
cast of characters, and much of it is centered around the generation that
is almost gone (the "explicable anachronisms"?).

Chuck Vance (no animals were harmed in the making of this post)
Wolfgang
all events, occurrences or happenings depicted, described or otherwise
portrayed in the writing of this message are fictional. any resemblance
to reality, past present or future, is entirely coincidental and beyond
the control of the writer.

You forgot to add "inexplicable".

I also left out "highly improbable".

Wolfgang
who feels that allowing the obvious to speak for itself is demanded by a
respect for the readers' abilities.

That is funny, I just weighed my backpack, it's just a tad over 10 lbs.
including stove, fishing gear, sleeping bag, bivi sac, pan, food, water
filter, clothes....no iron skillet.
Heh, Heh.
Loved your photos of your backpacking equipment. If I'd had one of my backpack
of 30 years ago you'd have had a good laugh, but the one of 29 years ago would
look a lot better as I at least made sure the kitchen sink was aluminum.G

At the time I had little money so most of my equipment was cheap, heavy junk.
The skillet was only a minor inconvenience compared to a number of other
things/events that could have weeded me out that first back country trip but
it was symbolic.
The trip probably would have ended up being just a fun time with a few...um...
rough spots had I not said on the next to last day "Hey. Instead of hiking out
the way we came in why don't we take this trail here called Rocky Top?"

Kiyu

Wolfgang wrote:

"Conan The Librarian" wrote in message
...

While the concept sounds great, I wonder how they were able to keep
such a show going on a regular basis. How many horrible puns can someone
take? :-)

The limits of the capacity of the human psyche to absorb punishment have yet
to be adequately tested. :)

For some reason I'm reminded of a hungover Jackie Mason, knock-knock
jokes, hungry rats, amphetamines and Hunter Thompson.

...Thanks for the pointer to Stratton. From the looks of the
excerpt from
his book on the NPR website, I want to read more.

Even from the bargain book shelf I figure it'll cost me 4-8 bucks. I
eagerly await your review.

I'll be on the lookout for the book, and hope to do it justice given
my "unique" perspective (geographically and culturally-speaking).

You forgot to add "inexplicable".

I also left out "highly improbable".

Wolfgang
who feels that allowing the obvious to speak for itself is demanded by a
respect for the readers' abilities.

Never let it be said that I don't have a grasp of the obvious.


Chuck Vance (I wouldn't dare speak for the rest of ROFF however)

"Kiyu" wrote in message
...

That is funny, I just weighed my backpack, it's just a tad over 10 lbs.
including stove, fishing gear, sleeping bag, bivi sac, pan, food, water
filter, clothes....no iron skillet.
Heh, Heh.
Loved your photos of your backpacking equipment. If I'd had one of my
backpack
of 30 years ago you'd have had a good laugh, but the one of 29 years ago
would
look a lot better as I at least made sure the kitchen sink was
aluminum.G

At the time I had little money so most of my equipment was cheap, heavy
junk.
The skillet was only a minor inconvenience compared to a number of other
things/events that could have weeded me out that first back country trip
but
it was symbolic.
The trip probably would have ended up being just a fun time with a
few...um...
rough spots had I not said on the next to last day "Hey. Instead of hiking
out
the way we came in why don't we take this trail here called Rocky Top?"

Kiyu

I actually learned a lot from the old-time packers, but I'm no spring
chicken myself at age 51. My first packs were external framed aluminum, then
I went with internal frame packs that weighed in at 6.5 lbs empty. Over the
years I accumulated lighter weight equipment as the old stuff got replaced.
It's still a cheap way to enjoy the outdoors and of course to fly-fish. Some
of my friends still think the more they bring the better, as a few of their
packs can weigh-in close to 50 lbs. I love hitting the streams, no fish I
pack-up and keep moving.
-tom

TOP POST WARNING chuckle

Tom,
Unless you're on a diet, take more food! Have you had Mountain House
meals before? The 2 person meals will leave you hungry after finishing,
and licking the inside of the bag. I would recommend eating one, 2
person meal, for each meal, and have a snack/desert along with it.
You're going to be burning a lot of calories. Packing an extra bag(or
two)of food isn't gonna weigh much, and it'll keep you out of your
buddies food container at 12:00 AM. :-)

You certainly have a ultralight setup there. I would never suggest
you're too minimalist....but where's the whiskey? ;-)

If you don't mind me asking, where are you going?

Have a great trip!
brians

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"briansfly" wrote in message
news:FvCye.9012$Yb4.2517@trnddc08...

10 LBS!!! What are you eating and drinking...air? Do you have chlorophyl
skin? ;-) But seriously, a 10 lbs pack is REALLY light. I'm curious as
the what kind of gear your using.
brians


Links to the contents of my backpack:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_005.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_008.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_013.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_Scale_002.jpg

The list of what's inside the pack:
Whisperlite stove

Windblock heavy duty foil

Fuel Cell

1 plastic measuring cup

Titanium Pan with cover

Mountain House Dinner for 2

2 packages of oatmeal

Waterbottle

Water Filter

Package of Tissue

Pillow

Pillow Cover

Plastic Bag

1 underwear

1 pr socks

1 t-shirt

Tooth brush

Small Tube Toothpaste

Plastic Spoon

Matches

Mini flashlight

Compass

Knife with scissors

Magnifying glass

Whistle

Lightweight Jacket

Sleeping Bag

OR Sleeping Bag Bivy Sac

Fly Rod

Fly Reel



I pack in on Thursday July 28th after eating a huge breakfast before the
hike. Skip lunch and have 1/2 the freeze dried for dinner. Oatmeal the next
morning (July 29th), skip lunch and eat the other 1/2 of the freeze dried
dinner. Oatmeal again July 30th and pack out, unless I catch fish during my
trip, then I stay another night. I won't pack in water because of the
streams which I have the water purifier. After I'm on the road, I'll have a
good solid meal, but not at Denny's.

-tom

Tom Nakashima wrote:
"Kiyu" wrote in message
...

That's funny. You actually backpacked a cast iron skillet into the
mountains? Did you pack it out?

That's the really bad part.
I still have the damned thing.G


That is funny, I just weighed my backpack, it's just a tad over 10 lbs.
including stove, fishing gear, sleeping bag, bivi sac, pan, food, water
filter, clothes....no iron skillet.

Warren's fishing vest weighs more than that.

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