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Dave LaCourse May 13th, 2007 01:51 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 
On Sun, 13 May 2007 06:42:13 -0500, wrote:

Well, maybe, but it certainly makes trivial things like starving
children, war, poverty, and disease pale in comparison...OTOH, maybe
Fiona Apple and her husband can book yer ass into someplace where you
can see some of the world that isn't Orvis-recommended...someplace
actually extreme. And if they can't, let me know...I'll get ya into a
place or two that'll cause a leak in your G3s...from the inside, at
least...


Richard, I don't live the privileged life that you do. I made my
money the old fashion way - I earned it. I didn't get it from Mumzy
and Daddy, or Grandmama or Papa. I have been to some of the "extreme"
places you speak of. In fact, I've lived there. Ever seen Rio,
Panama, the Phillipines, the Azores? Ever been to Colombia or
Guatamala? Try "Little Vietnam" in Colon, Republic of Panama where the
air is filled with the smell of feces and urine. If you wade in the
"streams" in Olongapo, Phillipines, be sure you wear Simms, because
you don't want leaky waders in that ****, because it is, literally,
****.

Of course you probably have been to worse places, but you saw it from
the back seat of your limo while Jeeves drove you past the dirty
masses. If you got off your fat ass and out of your chauffeur driven
luxo barge and went into some of these places, you would probably not
want to talk about it

Where were you after Katrina? Complaining about how all your stuff
was damaged and to hell with everyone else. While others went to
Louisiana and Mississippi and tried to help those less fortunate, you
sat on your ass and complained. While others gave large sums to the
unfortunate, you were counting your lost dollars. All you did was
complain, complain, complain. You are a pathetic human being,
Richard.

Now, go fishing, and please, PLEASE do it yourself. Don't let Jeeves
hook the fish and you land it. And if Jeeves complains about carrying
your sorry ass to the water's edge, whip him. That is the way of you
old southern slave masters, isn't it?

d:oP

[email protected] May 13th, 2007 02:05 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 
On Sun, 13 May 2007 08:51:17 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2007 06:42:13 -0500, wrote:

Well, maybe, but it certainly makes trivial things like starving
children, war, poverty, and disease pale in comparison...OTOH, maybe
Fiona Apple and her husband can book yer ass into someplace where you
can see some of the world that isn't Orvis-recommended...someplace
actually extreme. And if they can't, let me know...I'll get ya into a
place or two that'll cause a leak in your G3s...from the inside, at
least...


Richard, I don't live the privileged life that you do. I made my
money the old fashion way - I earned it. I didn't get it from Mumzy
and Daddy, or Grandmama or Papa. I have been to some of the "extreme"
places you speak of. In fact, I've lived there. Ever seen Rio,
Panama, the Phillipines, the Azores? Ever been to Colombia or
Guatamala? Try "Little Vietnam" in Colon, Republic of Panama where the
air is filled with the smell of feces and urine. If you wade in the
"streams" in Olongapo, Phillipines, be sure you wear Simms, because
you don't want leaky waders in that ****, because it is, literally,
****.

Of course you probably have been to worse places, but you saw it from
the back seat of your limo while Jeeves drove you past the dirty
masses. If you got off your fat ass and out of your chauffeur driven
luxo barge and went into some of these places, you would probably not
want to talk about it

Where were you after Katrina? Complaining about how all your stuff
was damaged and to hell with everyone else. While others went to
Louisiana and Mississippi and tried to help those less fortunate, you
sat on your ass and complained. While others gave large sums to the
unfortunate, you were counting your lost dollars. All you did was
complain, complain, complain. You are a pathetic human being,
Richard.

Now, go fishing, and please, PLEASE do it yourself. Don't let Jeeves
hook the fish and you land it. And if Jeeves complains about carrying
your sorry ass to the water's edge, whip him. That is the way of you
old southern slave masters, isn't it?

d:oP


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Knowing full well it won't help ya in the least,
R

Ken Fortenberry May 13th, 2007 02:08 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 
Dave LaCourse wrote:
snip
Where were you after Katrina? ...


Not to intrude reality into a good rant but you're way off base
on this one Louie. Richard and his girlfriend were most gracious
hosts when Kristine was in New Orleans helping put some libraries
back together and Kristine told me they were both quite obviously
involved in relief and rebuilding efforts. Oh, and Richard isn't
fat.

Back to your regularly scheduled rant.

--
Ken Fortenberry

[email protected] May 13th, 2007 02:30 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 
On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:08:48 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
snip
Where were you after Katrina? ...


Not to intrude reality into a good rant but you're way off base
on this one Louie. Richard and his girlfriend were most gracious
hosts when Kristine was in New Orleans helping put some libraries
back together and Kristine told me they were both quite obviously
involved in relief and rebuilding efforts. Oh, and Richard isn't
fat.

Back to your regularly scheduled rant.


While I appreciate the defense, it really isn't necessary. Anyone who
knows me, well, knows me, and anyone who doesn't and takes such stuff as
truth isn't worth worrying about...but hey, as always, EMMV...

TC,
R

Wolfgang May 13th, 2007 03:26 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 12 May 2007 18:23:44 -0700, JR wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:

Hmmmm. Just talked on the phone with Nicole Apple. She and her
husband Jason own/operate Xclusive Xpeditions and can book a trip to
just about anywhere. Her picture is on the June 07 copy of Fly Rod &
Reel. Pretty lady. Met them at a fly show a couple years ago.
They're out of Bellevue, Washington.

I asked her about the Simms she is wearing in the picture. "Oh,
they're the best." And, of course I had to ask, "Does Simms give you
and your guides a discount on them?" Her answer was "NO!" When I
said that I have heard guides get a discount on Simms, she said that
was news to her.


My guess is that Xclusive Xpeditions (execrable name, btw) is
essentially a travel agency and doesn't *have* its own guides the
way a lodge or fly shop does.

She should inform herself. If the guides XX uses can prove to
Simms that they are in fact professional guides (and the
requirements aren't that stringent), then can get the pro
discount, and I'm sure they do.

- JR


Now hang on a tick, JR. I just talked to my grandmother. She and Bill
Shatner both own and operate telephones. Not only can she book a trip
to just about anywhere, but Bill can get her a discount. As one might
imagine, I've known her quite a while. Not to brag, but I daresay she
considers me family.

I asked her about Simms waders. She said she didn't know what they
were. I asked her if Simms gave her a discount. Again, she said she
didn't know what they were. When I said that Louie said that Fiona
Apple said that it was news to her that Simms gave guides a discount,
she told me to lay off the Martinis or at least to quit talking about
Semmes and his waiters (she's a little hard of hearing...)...so I did.

HTH,
R
...and FWIW, I'd trust someone, in Bellevue or otherwise, who named
their business "Xclusive Xpeditions" about as much as I'd trust, oh,
say, a review in some advorag...


Whereas the rest of us are content to place our trust in someone whose vast
and meticulously documented experience make him the clear choice for
information on any topic whatsoever. Someone whose demonstrated
fair-mindedness and passionate devotion to disinterested evaluation on
merits alone, make whatever position he takes on any issue unassailable.
Someone whose close reasoning and dedication to treating serious matters
with the gravity they deserve and require, give his words the weight and
dignity that naturally accrue to those of the acknowledged ancient masters.
Someone whose self-effacing adherence to the hallowed principles of modesty
and humility in the face of universally recognized and unequalled
accomplishment make him the envy of all who behold him. Someone whom
parents point to as a model for their children to emulate. Someone whom
even fractious children, ordinarily inclined behave in deliberate
contravention to their parents' wishes, choose to emulate. Someone for whom
the deep respect of his erstwhile peers is none the less treasured for all
that it is heaped upon him in such measure that it would make any other
commodity worthless and uninteresting. Someone whose single-minded and
unswerving focus on the task at hand and astonishing ability to keep others
on track through force of will and deft use of language would leave others
drifting slack-jawed in his wake were they not sucked along in the vortex of
his charmingly self-denied magnificence. Someone whose generosity of spirit
and sacrosanct humanity are the stuff of legend.

In short, we place our trust in the only real Liberal in America. But then,
you already knew that.

Wolfgang



Wolfgang May 13th, 2007 03:40 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 

wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:08:48 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
snip
Where were you after Katrina? ...


Not to intrude reality into a good rant but you're way off base
on this one Louie. Richard and his girlfriend were most gracious
hosts when Kristine was in New Orleans helping put some libraries
back together and Kristine told me they were both quite obviously
involved in relief and rebuilding efforts. Oh, and Richard isn't
fat.

Back to your regularly scheduled rant.


While I appreciate the defense, it really isn't necessary. Anyone who
knows me, well, knows me, and anyone who doesn't and takes such stuff as
truth isn't worth worrying about...but hey, as always, EMMV...


You guys are SO precious! :)

Wolfgang
who is better and humbler.....but mostly better.....than all y'all combined.



Wolfgang May 13th, 2007 04:12 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 May 2007 20:37:42 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:53:19 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

There was a time however when you had Orvis everywhere and I would have
been somewhat skeptical of an Orvis endorsement. ;-)


Yes, those were the days of $200 waders for 20 days of fishing. And
in one case, $250 for 3 days. Nothing worse than a catostrophic wader
failure when you're in Labrador. Well, maybe a stick in the eye is
worse, cttoi.


Well, maybe, but it certainly makes trivial things like starving
children, war, poverty, and disease pale in comparison...


See, this is EXACTLY what endears you to all of us. Your saintly abnegation
in pursuit of justice and equality for the less fortunate shines forth in
everything you do and say. It is true that this makes it more difficult for
us to focus on the comparitively more frivolous (although infinitely
valuable....in its context) wealth of knowledge and probity you bring to all
others questions and discussions, but I'm sure I speak for everyone here in
declaring that knowing the world is a better place for it makes the effort
worthwhile.

OTOH, maybe
Fiona Apple and her husband can book yer ass into someplace where you
can see some of the world that isn't Orvis-recommended...someplace
actually extreme. And if they can't, let me know...I'll get ya into a
place or two that'll cause a leak in your G3s...from the inside, at
least...


As insufficient as our paltry imaginations doubtless are, we are
nevertheless all aquiver with speculation on what you COULD show us....if
you really wanted to.....which, of course, you don't.....I mean, why would
you.....right?.....YMMV.....HTH.

Wolfgang
well, he COULD!, you know.....if he wanted to.....if we were worthy.....if
we could handle it.



Dave LaCourse May 13th, 2007 06:06 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 
On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:08:48 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Not to intrude reality into a good rant but you're way off base
on this one Louie. Richard and his girlfriend were most gracious
hosts when Kristine was in New Orleans helping put some libraries
back together and Kristine told me they were both quite obviously
involved in relief and rebuilding efforts. Oh, and Richard isn't
fat.


Wow. double surprise. All I can remember his him complaining about
the aftermath of Katrina and how bad HE had it. And he's not fat?
And he has a *girlfriend*. Wow, make that a triple surprise.



[email protected] May 14th, 2007 03:46 AM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 
On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:06:45 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:08:48 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

Not to intrude reality into a good rant but you're way off base
on this one Louie. Richard and his girlfriend were most gracious
hosts when Kristine was in New Orleans helping put some libraries
back together and Kristine told me they were both quite obviously
involved in relief and rebuilding efforts. Oh, and Richard isn't
fat.


Wow. double surprise. All I can remember his him complaining about
the aftermath of Katrina and how bad HE had it. And he's not fat?
And he has a *girlfriend*. Wow, make that a triple surprise.


Well, **** fire and save matches...it was AT LEAST 8 hours before Uncle
Dickey had the boys at, um, Hiliberten send a fresh cocktail shaker and
some Perrier ice so that Jeeves could shake up a cocktail...good God,
man, it was unsavilezed...I almost resorted to going fishing or
something common...

And yet again, knowing this won't help,
R

Scott Seidman May 14th, 2007 04:31 PM

A little "what the pros use" story...
 
JR wrote in :

Scott Seidman wrote:

Simms has some lower end waders, somewhat above their lowest end,
that ring in at about $200


I've been wearing a pair of Simms Lightweights ($199, but not
made anymore) for four years now. When I worked part time in a
fly shop last year I bought a second pair at a huge discount on
the theory that the first pair would soon wear out.

They haven't yet.

I've compared notes with folks who have the original Guide model,
and the Lightweights appear just as tough. I'm not convinced
that the G3s or G4s are twice or three times as tough and/or
long-lasting as my Lightweights. I do know (from working in the
shop) that there are a lot of folks out there who will buy
whatever the top-of-the-line Simms model happens to be....

- JR
(who wouldn't be caught dead in the G4s on purely aesthetic grounds)







I know some of the Simms lower line models use breathable materials other
than GoreTex, which Simm's claims is the caddilac. I think the new $200
line might be GoreTex, but I'm not sure.


--
Scott
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