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Ken Fortenberry[_3_] October 25th, 2007 10:03 PM

A Patriotic Charity
 
Rick wrote:
Wow Ken, I expected something like from the puppet Mike but not you.. But
that is ok.. As I said liberalism is a disease and by the time people
realize that, its usually too late.. Just like a cancer...


A liberal political view is just that, a liberal political view.
It's not a disease, it's not a cancer, and it really shouldn't
scare you out of your wits. What should scare you out of your
wits is having an "I've Got Mine, You Go to Hell" sense of
undeserved entitlement.

But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinions right? And most of the
time, I agree with yours one here.. Hey it makes the world go around or so
they way :-) But anywho.. Hows northern il football doing? still suprising
everyone?


I don't keep track of the Northern Illinois Huskies although
they are one of those directional schools the big-time programs
fear. I do follow the Fighting Illini of the University of Illinois
and it was no surprise when Michigan thrashed them last week.

--
Ken Fortenberry

BJ Conner October 25th, 2007 10:20 PM

A Patriotic Charity
 
On Oct 25, 1:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner

wrote:
Looks like they are leaning to talk the talk and not walk the walk
too. Are they all gonna grow up to be chicken hawks? My daughters on
the deans list, has a scholarship and is getting GI bill money for 4
years just finished in the service(USAF)..


Psssst. Don't let Frank Jr. hear you. Your daughter is getting tax
money too.

Pssst. So am I. So is Frank. So are all my old fuddy duddy friends.
But don't tell Frank.

Ain't the U.S. of A great?

It's better than a lot of us derserve, but that don't mean we stop
trying to make it better.



Rick[_5_] October 25th, 2007 10:27 PM

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Rick wrote:

I don't keep track of the Northern Illinois Huskies although
they are one of those directional schools the big-time programs
fear. I do follow the Fighting Illini of the University of Illinois
and it was no surprise when Michigan thrashed them last week.

--
Ken Fortenberry


Well they are a team that others seem to underestimate though...Its nice to
see them make people sit up and take notice from time to time..

all the political crap aside, You do have my respect when it comes to fly
fishing knowledge.. I have picked up a lot this past year reading some of
your posts.. But the Mikey posts have been the best at times :-)

Rick



Dave LaCourse October 25th, 2007 10:42 PM

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On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:27:07 -0500, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net
wrote:

But the Mikey posts have been the best at times


Mikey Jr. or Sr.?



Frank Reid[_2_] October 26th, 2007 12:36 AM

A Patriotic Charity
 
On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner

wrote:
Looks like they are leaning to talk the talk and not walk the walk
too. Are they all gonna grow up to be chicken hawks? My daughters on
the deans list, has a scholarship and is getting GI bill money for 4
years just finished in the service(USAF)..


Psssst. Don't let Frank Jr. hear you. Your daughter is getting tax
money too.

Pssst. So am I. So is Frank. So are all my old fuddy duddy friends.
But don't tell Frank.

Ain't the U.S. of A great?


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


Rick[_5_] October 26th, 2007 02:58 AM

A Patriotic Charity
 

"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid

No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes, she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as are
the grand parents..


Rick



Rick[_5_] October 26th, 2007 03:29 AM

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"rw" wrote in message
m...
Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and
savings as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the
scholarships via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on
where she goes, she had things covered one way or another.. We are just
proud that she is a great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders
and isn't messed up in drugs or other things...Political views dont
matter at all when they are strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel
very fortunate to have the children we have. Can't take all the credit
though, her mom is great as are the grand parents..


I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters can
go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more) so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services that
only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.


So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten way
out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms.. Hmmm
makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick



Tim Lysyk October 26th, 2007 03:35 AM

A Patriotic Charity
 
Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten way
out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms.. Hmmm
makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick



Well, uh, yeah...actually it does.

Tim Lysyk

Rick[_5_] October 26th, 2007 04:09 AM

A Patriotic Charity
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten
way out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms..
Hmmm makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick


Bush is the biggest spender since LBJ:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/v-print/story/20767.html

Wake up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid, Rick.


No where did I say I liked Bush... Yes he has given all Republicans a bad
name.. Can't change that till next year.. But it will be worse with
Clinton.. More taxes even bigger government. After letting the Klintons rip
off the american public once, you would think that we all would be running
from them now, but we as americans have a short memory now. Lets face it, to
be in politics, its all about who can be the biggest crook and get away with
it.

Rick



rw October 26th, 2007 04:17 AM

A Patriotic Charity
 
Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner


Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid


No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes, she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as are
the grand parents..


I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more) so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services
that only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.


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