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Julie November 10th, 2007 01:04 AM

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In article . com,
Mike wrote:

Secondly, Dickie boy is being extremely
obnoxious to two people I consider friends. Thirdly, for Dickie boy to
come out with drivel like this is quite typical, as all he is ever
generous with is abuse, and invariably gratuitous to boot.


So first of all you logic is clouded by your friendship, and second of
all a %10 discount is hard generous. It is SPAM. I am sure any
business would gladly give a %10 discount for free advertising.

rb608 November 10th, 2007 01:07 AM

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"Julie" wrote in message
So first of all you logic is clouded by your friendship, and second of
all a %10 discount is hard generous. It is SPAM. I am sure any
business would gladly give a %10 discount for free advertising.


Harry doen't need to advertise here. His work and contributions are worth
far more that he has ever asked in return.

Joe F.



Julie November 10th, 2007 01:07 AM

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In article ,
Ken Fortenberry wrote:

snip
... Lastly, I really donīt care much what various dumbos and
idiots think of me, but I would like to think that sensible people
still hold me for an honest man. ...


Too late for that, *WAY* too late, Mike. Too many foul-mouthed
personal attacks, too much insane, rabid ranting, and finally
too many clumsy lies. Google will *never* be your friend.

Now isn't it about time for you to crawl back into the booby
hatch from which you came ?


I like that suggestion

Opus--Mark H. Bowen November 10th, 2007 01:10 AM

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"Julie" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Mike wrote:

Well Dickie boy, because this is a fly-fishing group, and Myron is a
contributor. Harry has very good flies, and he is helping a worthwhile
project. I don?t think he deals in medicine or food packages.


Giving free flies to spoiled kids whose parents send them to a private
school where they are equipped with LL Bean gear and get to go on
fishing trips to New Zealand is a worthy project?

And Harry is giving people a %10 discount?? He could at least sell at
wholesale.

Harry Mason has gone from "do gooder" to "depriver of starving kids" to
SPAMMER.


Why would you call any children that you have no experience with spoiled?

As well, you confuse Spamm with a decent jesture.

You are a very confused person, IMMHO.

Op




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Julie November 10th, 2007 01:16 AM

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In article ,
wrote:

Tye me some flies.. mouth... and I will send them to some kids here in
Northern California that learn to fly fish between chemo treatments.
better yet, why don't you volunteer to teach them how to tye flies...
then you'd see some real barf....not your cheap Martini induced wanta
be slime. I mean real, 5-fluorouracil burned barf. And you have the
hair to telling me about kids and pain..**** you I help when I can
and how I can.


You help by taking off %10???? Geez, put your money where your mouth
is. You are just making money and making customers and trying to look
like a saint at the same time. Spam is what it is called.

daytripper November 10th, 2007 03:45 AM

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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:39:16 GMT, Julie wrote:

In article om,
riverman wrote:

rdean is correct on another count: this is a very well-funded school
and the kids here are not in any way dying, starving or in real
financial need. If you are considering making a donation toward my
trip, I sincerely thank you, but if you have a limited budget for
donations of any sort, send it to MSF or StJudes. The impact will be
much more direct than sending it to me or Harry.


Why are these kids more important than the starving kids in every single
big city in the US? Their is a genocide and rape in Rwanda. You name
me a continent that has over a million people and I will name a city in
it that has starving kids that could use our money.

If you are of considerable means, send your money to the 10 places you
are missing, not a bunch of spoiled rich kids whose parents are sending
the to private school with their own fly rods equipped to them.

Even the most generous person cant come close to contributing to all the
charities for the needy, much less give the charities what they need to
wipe it out.


Is it so impossible that folks could act to encourage kids to enjoy
flyfishing, while also contributing to the less fortunate in the world?

With due respect, I believe you are off base with your remarks regarding
Harry. He's been a paragon of virtue wrt advertising on usenet - in fact I
don't recall him *ever* advertising on usenet...

/daytripper

Russell D. November 10th, 2007 05:29 AM

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Julie wrote:
In article . com,
Mike wrote:

Secondly, Dickie boy is being extremely
obnoxious to two people I consider friends. Thirdly, for Dickie boy to
come out with drivel like this is quite typical, as all he is ever
generous with is abuse, and invariably gratuitous to boot.


So first of all you logic is clouded by your friendship, and second of
all a %10 discount is hard generous. It is SPAM. I am sure any
business would gladly give a %10 discount for free advertising.


Look, lady, Harry has been around here a long time and has made many
valuable contributions to roff. He didn't spam.

HTH,

Russell

Russell D. November 10th, 2007 05:31 AM

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Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Julie" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Mike wrote:

Well Dickie boy, because this is a fly-fishing group, and Myron is a
contributor. Harry has very good flies, and he is helping a worthwhile
project. I don?t think he deals in medicine or food packages.

Giving free flies to spoiled kids whose parents send them to a private
school where they are equipped with LL Bean gear and get to go on
fishing trips to New Zealand is a worthy project?

And Harry is giving people a %10 discount?? He could at least sell at
wholesale.

Harry Mason has gone from "do gooder" to "depriver of starving kids" to
SPAMMER.


Why would you call any children that you have no experience with spoiled?

As well, you confuse Spamm with a decent jesture.

You are a very confused person, IMMHO.

Op



Yeah, what Mark said. He's right. :-)

Russell

George Cleveland November 10th, 2007 10:34 AM

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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 03:16:01 GMT, wrote:


is in full swing. We have several generous donors but we could always
use more. Riverman has his wish list pretty much going and about half
subsidized...
You can send your flies to riverman , or... you can buy what you
would like to have sent to riverman, he

http://www.troutflies.com/go.mvc?ID=STOREFRONT

you don't need an account to shop, but it does save some time to fill
one out the form. Use the above URL in any event, to get started.

Once you have a basket of flies, proceed to checkout, fill in the info
as needed, it's your basic shopping basket stuff...near the end, a
box will show : "Redeem Coupons"...enter the word - school.

The appropriate discount will be taken at checkout and your order
will be flagged for rivermans endeavor only...all of the orders and
their contents so marked, will be sent to him when he asks for them.

If you would rather just send funds, contact me off list and we will
make arrangements. This option has been popular to date.
You can find my email addy is in the above store...

Harry


Maybe if you had Pass Lakes, Harry.


BTW, to me this was never about charity but rather about comradery. I
was thinking about tying up 4 dozen Pass lakes and sending them out.
Not because I thought that these kids needed the handout but because I
thought they'd get a kick out of receiving them and I knew I'd get a
kick if one of them succeeded in catching a NZ trout on one of my
Cheesehead classic flies. Doubt if I can find the time to get them
done but it would have been an amusing endeavor.

g.c.

[email protected] November 10th, 2007 01:46 PM

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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:53:14 -0500, jeff
wrote:


i'm sending some flies to the rich kids in hong kong...well, with
harry's help. ...and i applaud both harry and myron for their efforts. i
didn't consider it part of my annual charitable giving or public
service. i did consider it a return and continuance of the better spirit
and purpose of this place...a place that originally throbbed with
friendships and sharing...not rancor. it was simply a favor being
returned to a "friend"...a way to say thanks.

i have been the beneficiary of the kindness and gifts of many of the
well-off folks who have posted or once posted here. their charity was
undeserved and certainly not needed or required. however, it made a huge
difference in my life and affected some of my own views and conduct ...
for the better. i learned valuable and important things, that in turn
inspired me to share and participate in ways i might not otherwise have
done. in short...kindness and unconditional gifts have a power that
shouldn't have a narrow or rigid focus. ultimately, i think it serves us
all...rich and poor, fortunate and unfortunate.



And I'd generally agree with this, almost completely even, except that
when "well-off folks" give gifts to other presumably "well-off folks"
(i.e., you), it ain't charity, it's, well, well-off folks giving gifts
to other presumably well-off folks. And IMO, that's fine, normal, and
natural, and certainly is a sign of fellowship and friendship. Good
things, indeed. Plus, such things are generally a two-way street, as it
were. But let's not confuse it with "helping" anyone in the purely
practical sense and that is by simple necessity of the situation purely
a "one-way street." Unfortunately, there are many more people in this
world that need the practical help to be able to survive to get to the
warm and fuzzy parts many of us take for granted or think of as our due
than there are those that can participate in a scheme involving well-off
folks exchanging gifts out of friendship.

TC,
R

jeff



well...except...if charity is considered a benevolent action of any sort
for the needy with no expectation of material reward, i'd argue well-off
folks can be in need of gifts. kindness (and sharing one's knowledge or
friendship in a pleasant-positive way) in the current world seems to
qualify as a "gift", imo.

jeff


Bull****. This is not a group of tyers tying flies for a friend's class
- _AS MYRON ASKED_. For those tying and sending, this obviously doesn't
apply to you. This - the thing with Harry - is (apparently) you and
some others going to all the effort of sending a business a credit card
number so they can send some flies to the kids, whose parents, at least
(and apparently), could buy the store. Unless it's the credit card that
saved your favorite grandfather's life in "the great war" or something,
I see nothing but a guy who can afford to buy something for someone
else. There's no thought put behind "a gift," no personal meaning or
effort, nothing - it's just like spoiled little kids and Christmas. They
make a list, Mommy and Daddy take the list, buy as much of the **** as
they can find or afford, and everybody is, er, "happy." It's not the
kids and their list that are ****ed up, it's Mommy and Daddy. Instead
of taking the time to really give the kids _a gift_, it's whip out the
AMEX and not notice the cost. I don't see Porter coming back to write
about _this_ little commercial exchange...

HTH,
R


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