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The Greater Hong Kong Fly Shipment...
In article . com,
Mike wrote: Secondly, Dickie boy is being extremely obnoxious to two people I consider friends. Thirdly, for Dickie boy to come out with drivel like this is quite typical, as all he is ever generous with is abuse, and invariably gratuitous to boot. So first of all you logic is clouded by your friendship, and second of all a %10 discount is hard generous. It is SPAM. I am sure any business would gladly give a %10 discount for free advertising. |
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"Julie" wrote in message
So first of all you logic is clouded by your friendship, and second of all a %10 discount is hard generous. It is SPAM. I am sure any business would gladly give a %10 discount for free advertising. Harry doen't need to advertise here. His work and contributions are worth far more that he has ever asked in return. Joe F. |
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In article ,
Ken Fortenberry wrote: snip ... Lastly, I really donīt care much what various dumbos and idiots think of me, but I would like to think that sensible people still hold me for an honest man. ... Too late for that, *WAY* too late, Mike. Too many foul-mouthed personal attacks, too much insane, rabid ranting, and finally too many clumsy lies. Google will *never* be your friend. Now isn't it about time for you to crawl back into the booby hatch from which you came ? I like that suggestion |
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"Julie" wrote in message ... In article .com, Mike wrote: Well Dickie boy, because this is a fly-fishing group, and Myron is a contributor. Harry has very good flies, and he is helping a worthwhile project. I don?t think he deals in medicine or food packages. Giving free flies to spoiled kids whose parents send them to a private school where they are equipped with LL Bean gear and get to go on fishing trips to New Zealand is a worthy project? And Harry is giving people a %10 discount?? He could at least sell at wholesale. Harry Mason has gone from "do gooder" to "depriver of starving kids" to SPAMMER. Why would you call any children that you have no experience with spoiled? As well, you confuse Spamm with a decent jesture. You are a very confused person, IMMHO. Op -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:39:16 GMT, Julie wrote:
In article om, riverman wrote: rdean is correct on another count: this is a very well-funded school and the kids here are not in any way dying, starving or in real financial need. If you are considering making a donation toward my trip, I sincerely thank you, but if you have a limited budget for donations of any sort, send it to MSF or StJudes. The impact will be much more direct than sending it to me or Harry. Why are these kids more important than the starving kids in every single big city in the US? Their is a genocide and rape in Rwanda. You name me a continent that has over a million people and I will name a city in it that has starving kids that could use our money. If you are of considerable means, send your money to the 10 places you are missing, not a bunch of spoiled rich kids whose parents are sending the to private school with their own fly rods equipped to them. Even the most generous person cant come close to contributing to all the charities for the needy, much less give the charities what they need to wipe it out. Is it so impossible that folks could act to encourage kids to enjoy flyfishing, while also contributing to the less fortunate in the world? With due respect, I believe you are off base with your remarks regarding Harry. He's been a paragon of virtue wrt advertising on usenet - in fact I don't recall him *ever* advertising on usenet... /daytripper |
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Julie wrote:
In article . com, Mike wrote: Secondly, Dickie boy is being extremely obnoxious to two people I consider friends. Thirdly, for Dickie boy to come out with drivel like this is quite typical, as all he is ever generous with is abuse, and invariably gratuitous to boot. So first of all you logic is clouded by your friendship, and second of all a %10 discount is hard generous. It is SPAM. I am sure any business would gladly give a %10 discount for free advertising. Look, lady, Harry has been around here a long time and has made many valuable contributions to roff. He didn't spam. HTH, Russell |
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Opus--Mark H. Bowen wrote:
"Julie" wrote in message ... In article .com, Mike wrote: Well Dickie boy, because this is a fly-fishing group, and Myron is a contributor. Harry has very good flies, and he is helping a worthwhile project. I don?t think he deals in medicine or food packages. Giving free flies to spoiled kids whose parents send them to a private school where they are equipped with LL Bean gear and get to go on fishing trips to New Zealand is a worthy project? And Harry is giving people a %10 discount?? He could at least sell at wholesale. Harry Mason has gone from "do gooder" to "depriver of starving kids" to SPAMMER. Why would you call any children that you have no experience with spoiled? As well, you confuse Spamm with a decent jesture. You are a very confused person, IMMHO. Op Yeah, what Mark said. He's right. :-) Russell |
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:53:14 -0500, jeff
wrote: i'm sending some flies to the rich kids in hong kong...well, with harry's help. ...and i applaud both harry and myron for their efforts. i didn't consider it part of my annual charitable giving or public service. i did consider it a return and continuance of the better spirit and purpose of this place...a place that originally throbbed with friendships and sharing...not rancor. it was simply a favor being returned to a "friend"...a way to say thanks. i have been the beneficiary of the kindness and gifts of many of the well-off folks who have posted or once posted here. their charity was undeserved and certainly not needed or required. however, it made a huge difference in my life and affected some of my own views and conduct ... for the better. i learned valuable and important things, that in turn inspired me to share and participate in ways i might not otherwise have done. in short...kindness and unconditional gifts have a power that shouldn't have a narrow or rigid focus. ultimately, i think it serves us all...rich and poor, fortunate and unfortunate. And I'd generally agree with this, almost completely even, except that when "well-off folks" give gifts to other presumably "well-off folks" (i.e., you), it ain't charity, it's, well, well-off folks giving gifts to other presumably well-off folks. And IMO, that's fine, normal, and natural, and certainly is a sign of fellowship and friendship. Good things, indeed. Plus, such things are generally a two-way street, as it were. But let's not confuse it with "helping" anyone in the purely practical sense and that is by simple necessity of the situation purely a "one-way street." Unfortunately, there are many more people in this world that need the practical help to be able to survive to get to the warm and fuzzy parts many of us take for granted or think of as our due than there are those that can participate in a scheme involving well-off folks exchanging gifts out of friendship. TC, R jeff well...except...if charity is considered a benevolent action of any sort for the needy with no expectation of material reward, i'd argue well-off folks can be in need of gifts. kindness (and sharing one's knowledge or friendship in a pleasant-positive way) in the current world seems to qualify as a "gift", imo. jeff Bull****. This is not a group of tyers tying flies for a friend's class - _AS MYRON ASKED_. For those tying and sending, this obviously doesn't apply to you. This - the thing with Harry - is (apparently) you and some others going to all the effort of sending a business a credit card number so they can send some flies to the kids, whose parents, at least (and apparently), could buy the store. Unless it's the credit card that saved your favorite grandfather's life in "the great war" or something, I see nothing but a guy who can afford to buy something for someone else. There's no thought put behind "a gift," no personal meaning or effort, nothing - it's just like spoiled little kids and Christmas. They make a list, Mommy and Daddy take the list, buy as much of the **** as they can find or afford, and everybody is, er, "happy." It's not the kids and their list that are ****ed up, it's Mommy and Daddy. Instead of taking the time to really give the kids _a gift_, it's whip out the AMEX and not notice the cost. I don't see Porter coming back to write about _this_ little commercial exchange... HTH, R |
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