Obama
 

"Wolfgang" wrote


Oh, good grief. Does the name Roosevelt ring any bells? No? Adams?



Actually I thought about those examples as I typed.

I was speaking in the context of the current world's view ( as I guess
{admittedly } it to be ) and I doubt if our rather distant history is what
is affecting that current opinion.

And I'll add that I don't believe this dynasty thing is a huge deal, rather
that the other option of electing a black would be. Electing a woman
would be seen as an advance, but somehow, putting the Clintons back in the
master bedroom at the White House falls a little short of really electing a
woman, in many minds worldwide ( again, my guess )

Obama
 

" wrote

I'd be voting 3rd party come November. The far left and far right
scare me
roughly equally.



whoa, I consider myself to be slightly left of dead center and I'M father
left than Clinton

you scare too easy G


as for preferring Obama, but certain to vote for Clinton over McCain .... it
IS possible to reach that same set of actions without being 'partisan'
..... you know, compare positions with my own and pick the candidate closest
to my image of what we need

Imagine choosing dinner at a buffet, all the wishing in the world ain't
going to make your very favorite, lobster, appear if it's not there, you
have to choose from the choices available ( doh ) ... saying "I'll take the
lobster" and being content with an empty plate is for 'third party voters'
in a two party system G


Larry L ( who would LOVE to see instant runoff elections in this country, so
that 'third parties' could develop and have real clout .... )

Obama
 

"Steve" wrote in message
ews.com...
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 11:43:52 -0600, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


"Steve" wrote in message
ynews.com...

Law is not interpreted in "the eye of the beholder".

Pray tell, then.....by whom and how is it interpreted?

Through assessment of the intent.

And thus you are content to pretend that you so much as tried to answer the
question?

Wolfgang
who, were he inclined to emulate some mythological creature, would pick one
for whom he had some respect.

Obama
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote


Oh, good grief. Does the name Roosevelt ring any bells? No? Adams?



Actually I thought about those examples as I typed.

You should make a habit of finishing the preliminaries before embarking on
the main event.

I was speaking in the context of the current world's view ( as I guess
{admittedly } it to be ) and I doubt if our rather distant history is what
is affecting that current opinion.

And you'll forgive me for guessing that your guesses don't count for much in
the current world's view of whatever the hell it is presumed they are
viewing......right? And, for what it's worth, I don't for a minute believe
that you had any particular context in mind. This is the trouble we see
here all the time......the trouble with a permanently relaxed oral
sphincter.....as it were.

And I'll add that I don't believe this dynasty thing is a huge deal,

Thus explaining your refusal to be tempted into commenting on
them.....right?

rather that the other option of electing a black would be.

An observation which some few of us here might eventually have become
qualified to make.

Electing a woman would be seen as an advance,

By some, doubtless.

but somehow, putting the Clintons back in the master bedroom at the White
House falls a little short of really electing a woman, in many minds
worldwide ( again, my guess )

I guess that if you confined your guesses to what transpires in your own
mind you'd suffer a marginally greater chance of success.

Wolfgang
who guesses that dicklet is right.

Obama
 

Larry L wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote



Oh, good grief. Does the name Roosevelt ring any bells? No? Adams?


Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt were only fifth cousins --
hardly the makings of a dynasty.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Obama
 

"rw" wrote in message
m...
Larry L wrote:
"Wolfgang" wrote



Oh, good grief. Does the name Roosevelt ring any bells? No? Adams?


Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt were only fifth cousins --
hardly the makings of a dynasty.

You never disappoint. :)

Wolfgang
who, as is plain for all the world to see, thought he was just THIS close to
positively identifying one of the scores of genuine murrican presidential
dynasties.

Obama
 

"Wolfgang" wrote


snip



because of my inabilities to express myself, to you, adequately for you to
understand, I'll try to refrain from further effort

.... my failure, but one I can live with





Let me say, though, that given the content of so many of your posts I fear
we may agree on one thing ... i.e. as a rule, human beings are idiots.


I doubt that we are in complete agreement, however, since I do not see you
as an exception to that rule.


Larry L ( who accepts his own inclusion, oft times, in the rule ... hell,
I'm 'typing' this with one finger because of an idiot move with a very sharp
knife )

Obama
 

" wrote in message
...

If recent history has shown anything, giving either party control of
President, House and Senate is a recipe for disaster.

Gosh. If only something like this could have been made evident some time
earlier! Why, we might not even have needed you to give us all a lesson
like in all balance of power and stuff, huh?

Wolfgang
who, having spent several years in usenet, is no longer as impressed as he
might once have been with the much ballyhooed collection of political genius
in late colonial america.

Obama
 

Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Larry L wrote:

"Wolfgang" wrote




Oh, good grief. Does the name Roosevelt ring any bells? No? Adams?


Theodore Roosevelt and Franklin Roosevelt were only fifth cousins --
hardly the makings of a dynasty.


You never disappoint. :)

Wolfgang
who, as is plain for all the world to see, thought he was just THIS close to
positively identifying one of the scores of genuine murrican presidential
dynasties.

Cheney and Obama have a common ancestor if you go back eight
generations. It looks like yet another dynasty in the making.

I was amused by Obama's reaction when he heard about this. He said that
every family has a black sheep.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Obama
 

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote

because of my inabilities to express myself, to you, adequately for you to
understand, I'll try to refrain from further effort

We'll see.

... my failure, but one I can live with

Living with failure is like so many other things.....it gets easier with
practice.

Let me say, though,

Well, o.k., maybe refraining doesn't get easier with practice.

that given the content of so many of your posts I fear
we may agree on one thing ... i.e. as a rule, human beings are idiots.

No, we don't agree on that at all. As a rule, human beings are most
emphatically (and obviously) NOT idiots.

I doubt that we are in complete agreement, however, since I do not see you
as an exception to that rule.

See, you may not actually be an idiot (and, frankly, I don't suppose so),
but you are most certainly and demonstrably a liar.

Larry L ( who accepts his own inclusion, oft times, in the rule ... hell,
I'm 'typing' this with one finger because of an idiot move with a very
sharp knife )

You ever wonder how life might be different if you thought about what you
write before committing it to public view?.....or even after, for that
matter?

Wolfgang