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Dave LaCourse May 3rd, 2008 03:41 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 00:19:17 -0500, wrote:

Put up or shut up,


It would be a waste of precious time, Richard. NO ONE can cast sixty
feet of line with a conventional fly rod - say a 9 ft 5 weight -
without using a false cast and thereby a back cast.

We're gonna hafta call you Lefty Dean before long.

tagh

d;o)



Tom Littleton May 3rd, 2008 03:58 PM

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
NO ONE can cast sixty
feet of line with a conventional fly rod - say a 9 ft 5 weight -
without using a false cast and thereby a back cast.

hmmm....not even by letting out, say 45 feet of line into the flow, then
roll casting and feeding the other 15 feet on the roll?? I'm not sure that
can't be done. Not all all sure.
Tom



[email protected] May 3rd, 2008 04:39 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:41:13 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sat, 03 May 2008 00:19:17 -0500, wrote:

Put up or shut up,


It would be a waste of precious time, Richard. NO ONE can cast sixty
feet of line with a conventional fly rod - say a 9 ft 5 weight -
without using a false cast and thereby a back cast.


Uh-huh...sounds a whole lot like the wiggling of a loud-mouthed coward.
You never said anything about "conventional" or "a 9 ft. 5 weight" or no
back cast when you were running your mouth about "big bucks" and how it
couldn't be done without a false cast:

"I would still pay big bucks to see you cast 60 feet of line *without* a
false cast (which would require a back cast), eh?"

It's becoming obvious that you don't have anywhere near the stones to
actually follow through with what you ran your mouth about OR have the
stones to admit that you popped off a bit quick, but just to finish it -
I'll do it as you offered, and do it with a conventional fly rod - heck,
some special rod isn't necessary anyway. What's your idea of "big
bucks" - $50,000.00 US dollars? $10,000.00 US dollars? How many US
dollars do you consider "big bucks?"

We're gonna hafta call you Lefty Dean before long.


And "we're" gonna have to call you a loud-mouthed puss right here and
now...

Put up or shut up,
R

tagh

d;o)


Dave LaCourse May 3rd, 2008 05:22 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 14:58:11 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

hmmm....not even by letting out, say 45 feet of line into the flow, then
roll casting and feeding the other 15 feet on the roll?? I'm not sure that
can't be done. Not all all sure.


Would YOU want to fish like that? A nymph (usually fished weighted)
would drag down some of the line. Try it, Tom, and get back to us.
d;o)



Dave LaCourse May 3rd, 2008 05:30 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:39:06 -0500, wrote:

It's becoming obvious that you don't have anywhere near the stones to
actually follow through with what you ran your mouth about OR have the
stones to admit that you popped off a bit quick, but just to finish it -
I'll do it as you offered, and do it with a conventional fly rod - heck,
some special rod isn't necessary anyway. What's your idea of "big
bucks" - $50,000.00 US dollars? $10,000.00 US dollars? How many US
dollars do you consider "big bucks?"


Ok, Richard. Maine, the Rapid River, last week in May. Show up. Big
bucks would be $100. And we were talking about nymphing. You nymph
with a 5 or 6 weight, not a 12 weight salt water rod, and not a spey
rod. Five or six weight. Show up. I'll be there. BTW, you could
cast a nymph more than 60 feet WITH a spey rod, but most (all?) of us
nymph with 5 or 6 weights. Some even 4 weights. And, I'm betting
that you could cast a nymph more than 60 feet with a 12 weight without
false casting.

Come on.

I've always wanted to meet you anyway, but having been to Mississippi
and Louisiana after Katrina, have no interest whatsoever of returning.
Do hope you understand, bucko.

Davey



[email protected] May 3rd, 2008 05:42 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 12:30:51 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sat, 03 May 2008 10:39:06 -0500, wrote:

It's becoming obvious that you don't have anywhere near the stones to
actually follow through with what you ran your mouth about OR have the
stones to admit that you popped off a bit quick, but just to finish it -
I'll do it as you offered, and do it with a conventional fly rod - heck,
some special rod isn't necessary anyway. What's your idea of "big
bucks" - $50,000.00 US dollars? $10,000.00 US dollars? How many US
dollars do you consider "big bucks?"


Ok, Richard. Maine, the Rapid River, last week in May. Show up. Big
bucks would be $100. And we were talking about nymphing. You nymph
with a 5 or 6 weight, not a 12 weight salt water rod, and not a spey
rod. Five or six weight. Show up. I'll be there. BTW, you could
cast a nymph more than 60 feet WITH a spey rod, but most (all?) of us
nymph with 5 or 6 weights. Some even 4 weights. And, I'm betting
that you could cast a nymph more than 60 feet with a 12 weight without
false casting.

Come on.

I've always wanted to meet you anyway, but having been to Mississippi
and Louisiana after Katrina, have no interest whatsoever of returning.
Do hope you understand, bucko.

Davey

Uh-huh. More wiggling and creative editing (and what's the point of
that, anyway - the posts are there for anyone interested to see and
read...). If you just had the stones to say, "Hey, perhaps I was a bit
hasty..." It's obvious you don't have the balls or the "big bucks" to
put up or shut up, so that's about the end of it.

And there you are,
R

Ken Fortenberry[_2_] May 3rd, 2008 05:46 PM

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Dave LaCourse wrote:
snip
I've always wanted to meet you anyway, but having been to Mississippi
and Louisiana after Katrina, have no interest whatsoever of returning.
Do hope you understand, bucko.


You have no idea what you're missing. New Orleans is recovering
nicely from The Storm and rdean is a most gracious host and tour
guide (for a liberal ;-).

--
Ken Fortenberry

Dave LaCourse May 3rd, 2008 06:16 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 11:42:07 -0500, wrote:

It's obvious you don't have the balls or the "big bucks" to
put up or shut up, so that's about the end of it.


Hey, tell ya what..... The next time we are at a clave together (oh,
just remembered, you don't clave.... do you fly fish?), I'll give you
my 8'9" Winston LT5, rigged normally for nymphing (unweighted #18
pheasant tail and small shot, 7 1/2 ft leader [plus 18" tippet],
floating Cortland line) and if you can cast the nymph 60 feet without
falsecasting (and no floating the line downstream or rollcasting
several times [which is really false casting]), I'll give you $100.
Hell, it would be worth a hundred bucks to learn HOW to cast a five
weight 60 feet without falsecasting. And, we are talking conventional
fly rod and a conventional cast. No fair tying a large weight to the
line to get distance (you know....whirly birding that sucker around
and around and then chucking it). Just a normal 5 weight fly rod,
reel, line, leader, split shot, fly, with 60 feet of line lying at
your feet.... now cast that without falsecasting. I'd love to see it.
The original conversation was about nymphing. That is my nymphing set
up. A hundred bucks if you can.

Oh, yeah, almost forgot. Don't call me at midnight anymore with
stupid questions.

d;o)




Dave LaCourse May 3rd, 2008 06:22 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 16:46:44 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

You have no idea what you're missing. New Orleans is recovering
nicely from The Storm and rdean is a most gracious host and tour
guide (for a liberal ;-).


After the two trips to Waveland and vicinity in the months after
Katrina, I have no desire to suffer through that heat and humidity
again. I am sure NO is nice, and I know Richard would be a gracious
host and tour guide, but thanks and no thanks about going to NO.

OTOH, Bud drinkers should go he
http://www.brackenspub.com/beer.swf
d;o)

Louie





[email protected] May 3rd, 2008 06:53 PM

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On Sat, 03 May 2008 13:16:42 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sat, 03 May 2008 11:42:07 -0500, wrote:

It's obvious you don't have the balls or the "big bucks" to
put up or shut up, so that's about the end of it.


Hey, tell ya what.....


Hey, I'll tell you what - you're all mouth.

The next time we are at a clave together (oh,
just remembered, you don't clave.... do you fly fish?), I'll give you
my 8'9" Winston LT5, rigged normally for nymphing (unweighted #18
pheasant tail and small shot, 7 1/2 ft leader [plus 18" tippet],
floating Cortland line) and if you can cast the nymph 60 feet without
falsecasting (and no floating the line downstream or rollcasting
several times [which is really false casting]), I'll give you $100.
Hell, it would be worth a hundred bucks to learn HOW to cast a five
weight 60 feet without falsecasting. And, we are talking conventional
fly rod and a conventional cast. No fair tying a large weight to the
line to get distance (you know....whirly birding that sucker around
and around and then chucking it). Just a normal 5 weight fly rod,
reel, line, leader, split shot, fly, with 60 feet of line lying at
your feet.... now cast that without falsecasting. I'd love to see it.
The original conversation was about nymphing. That is my nymphing set
up. A hundred bucks if you can.


SNICKER More wiggling. You never said anything about fishing rigs,
gear types, or any other qualifiers:

"I would still pay big bucks to see you cast 60 feet of line *without* a
false cast (which would require a back cast), eh?"

You offered. I accepted your offer. And if hundred bucks is your idea
of "big bucks," you're not even worth fooling with even if you had the
stones to stand by your words or the honor to admit your ****-up.

You called the game, but don't have the balls (or the bucks) to play.

I'm done with it,
R


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