Obama's gone and done it
 

Ken "Don Quixote" Fortenberry went on an insane and irrational rant that
ended up getting snipped:



Get counseling. Seriously. You're quite disturbed and need all the
help and meds you can get.

For my part, this track of the thread is finished. You'll get the last
word because the voices in your head force you to. But I won't bother
to read it.

Obama's gone and done it
 

On Nov 24, 2:42*pm, Peaceful Bill
wrote:
Prove he lied. *So far nobody can do that.

This is likely to be my one and only post for you, so I'll type
slowly. I am of the expectation that the President of the United
States, if he is even moderately competent, has access to and takes
seriously *all* of the available intelligence on any given topic of
global importance. That is to say, if he makes the statement that the
"intelligence indicates" something, that implies to me that he has
seen all of the relevant intelligence or at least a comprehensive
summary thereof, and he is willing to stake his veracity on the next
words that come out of his mouth. Based on that perspective, I offer
the following:

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the
materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX
nerve agent." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003

"U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000
munitions capable of delivering chemical agents." - State of the
Union Address, 1/28/2003

"We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing
fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to
disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas." - State
of the Union Address, 1/28/2003

"Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and
statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids
and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida." - State of
the Union Address, 1/28/2003

"Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to
purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons
production." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003

"Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at
[past nuclear] sites." - Bush speech to the nation, 10/7/2002

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently
sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." - State of the
Union Address, 1/28/2003

"We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let
them in." - Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003


Now, in some cases above, one might weasel that Bush merely asserted
what he believed the intelligence said; but we now know that Bush knew
that there was substantial intelligence counter to his military
aspirations; but he ignored, obfuscated, or outright lied about what
the "intelligence indicated".

A great deal of Bush's lies follow a similar scenario; it's not so
much what he said as what he intended for us to believe. He lied.

Obama's gone and done it
 

Peaceful Bill wrote:
Ken Fortenberry snipped:

Get counseling. ...

Yeah, yeah, you resent Obama supporters because we think we're
smarter than you. Well guess what, we *are* smarter than you.

Here's a factoid for you, Mr. Jelly:

Vote by Income

$200,000 or More - Obama 52% McCain 46%

So not only are we smarter than you, we make more money than you.

LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry

Obama's gone and done it
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

Yeah, yeah, you resent Obama supporters because we think we're
smarter than you. Well guess what, we *are* smarter than you.

Here's a factoid for you, Mr. Jelly:

Vote by Income

$200,000 or More - Obama 52% McCain 46%

So not only are we smarter than you, we make more money than you.

LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry

Irony meter \................!/ .

Claiming superiority in intelligence while using atrociously faulty logic.
Your conclusion reached from that factoid is virtually in the same league as
"Dogs have 4 legs, therefore all animals with 4 legs are dogs." Not quite
as apparent, but close.

Bob Weinberger


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Obama's gone and done it
 

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Yeah, yeah, you resent Obama supporters because we think we're
smarter than you. Well guess what, we *are* smarter than you.

Here's a factoid for you, Mr. Jelly:

Vote by Income

$200,000 or More - Obama 52% McCain 46%

So not only are we smarter than you, we make more money than you.

LOL !!

Irony meter \................!/ .

Claiming superiority in intelligence while using atrociously faulty logic.
Your conclusion reached from that factoid is virtually in the same league as
"Dogs have 4 legs, therefore all animals with 4 legs are dogs." Not quite
as apparent, but close.

Yeah, I know that there are a few dozen McCain supporters who make
more money than Croesus, Zeus and all the Obama supporters combined
but I dumbed down the rhetoric to suit the audience. Call it poetic
license. And I did add the LOL !!

Now why don't you go swiftboat somebody.

Obama's gone and done it
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

Yeah, I know that there are a few dozen McCain supporters who make
more money than Croesus, Zeus and all the Obama supporters combined
but I dumbed down the rhetoric to suit the audience. Call it poetic
license. And I did add the LOL !!


Nice rationalization to cover the flaw in your "superior intelligence"
claim. BTW its interesting that by implication you included yourself in the
high income group with the statement "we make more money than you". I hade
no idea that librarians make over $200,000/yr (your wife). Its unlikely that
you, as an unemployed computer weenie, bring much income to the household.

Bob Weinberger


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Obama's gone and done it
 

Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Yeah, I know that there are a few dozen McCain supporters who make
more money than Croesus, Zeus and all the Obama supporters combined
but I dumbed down the rhetoric to suit the audience. Call it poetic
license. And I did add the LOL !!

Nice rationalization to cover the flaw in your "superior intelligence"
claim. BTW its interesting that by implication you included yourself in the
high income group with the statement "we make more money than you". I hade
no idea that librarians make over $200,000/yr (your wife).

The only "we" including myself in that statement was in relation to
Obama supporters. Reading anything else into that is fairly typical
of your predisposition to lie, distort and mischaracterize. In other
words, once a swiftboater always a swiftboater. On the other hand,
you might be surprised at what a director of a statewide consortium
of academic libraries in Illinois earns per annum. But by law her
salary is a part of the public record if you want to look it up.

Its unlikely that
you, as an unemployed computer weenie, bring much income to the household.

Highly unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Obama's gone and done it
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
The only "we" including myself in that statement was in relation to
Obama supporters. Reading anything else into that is fairly typical
of your predisposition to lie, distort and mischaracterize. In other
words, once a swiftboater always a swiftboater. On the other hand,
you might be surprised at what a director of a statewide consortium
of academic libraries in Illinois earns per annum. But by law her
salary is a part of the public record if you want to look it up.

Its unlikely that you, as an unemployed computer weenie, bring much
income to the household.

Highly unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

--
Ken Fortenberry

WOW another shining example of your superior intelligence. Yes my saying
that your stating that "...we make more money than you." IMPLIES that you
are including yourself in the group that makes the big bucks is an
absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition to lying, distorting,
and micharacterization. LOL. BTW if your wife is Executive Director of
CARLI, yes that's a decent salary, but still not sufficient to categorically
state that "...we make more money than you."

Bob Weinberger


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Obama's gone and done it
 

Bob Weinberger wrote:
... Yes my saying
that your stating that "...we make more money than you." IMPLIES that you
are including yourself in the group that makes the big bucks is an
absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition to lying, distorting,
and micharacterization. ...

Excellent, confession they say is good for the soul. And, finally
we've found common ground.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Obama's gone and done it
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob Weinberger wrote:
... Yes my saying that your stating that "...we make more money than
you." IMPLIES that you are including yourself in the group that makes
the big bucks is an absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition
to lying, distorting, and micharacterization. ...

Excellent, confession they say is good for the soul. And, finally
we've found common ground.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Well if if I believed you were being serious with that statement rather than
just continuing to proudly uphold your status as an asshole, it would
confirm that those of you who hold themselves to be smarter than most are
seriously deluding themselves and just don't get sarcasm.


Bob Weinberger


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