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Obama's gone and done it
Ken "Don Quixote" Fortenberry went on an insane and irrational rant that
ended up getting snipped: Get counseling. Seriously. You're quite disturbed and need all the help and meds you can get. For my part, this track of the thread is finished. You'll get the last word because the voices in your head force you to. But I won't bother to read it. |
Obama's gone and done it
On Nov 24, 2:42*pm, Peaceful Bill
wrote: Prove he lied. *So far nobody can do that. This is likely to be my one and only post for you, so I'll type slowly. I am of the expectation that the President of the United States, if he is even moderately competent, has access to and takes seriously *all* of the available intelligence on any given topic of global importance. That is to say, if he makes the statement that the "intelligence indicates" something, that implies to me that he has seen all of the relevant intelligence or at least a comprehensive summary thereof, and he is willing to stake his veracity on the next words that come out of his mouth. Based on that perspective, I offer the following: "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003 "U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003 "We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003 "Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003 "Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003 "Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites." - Bush speech to the nation, 10/7/2002 "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." - State of the Union Address, 1/28/2003 "We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in." - Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003 Now, in some cases above, one might weasel that Bush merely asserted what he believed the intelligence said; but we now know that Bush knew that there was substantial intelligence counter to his military aspirations; but he ignored, obfuscated, or outright lied about what the "intelligence indicated". A great deal of Bush's lies follow a similar scenario; it's not so much what he said as what he intended for us to believe. He lied. |
Obama's gone and done it
Peaceful Bill wrote:
Ken Fortenberry snipped: Get counseling. ... Yeah, yeah, you resent Obama supporters because we think we're smarter than you. Well guess what, we *are* smarter than you. Here's a factoid for you, Mr. Jelly: Vote by Income $200,000 or More - Obama 52% McCain 46% So not only are we smarter than you, we make more money than you. LOL !! -- Ken Fortenberry |
Obama's gone and done it
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Yeah, yeah, you resent Obama supporters because we think we're smarter than you. Well guess what, we *are* smarter than you. Here's a factoid for you, Mr. Jelly: Vote by Income $200,000 or More - Obama 52% McCain 46% So not only are we smarter than you, we make more money than you. LOL !! -- Ken Fortenberry Irony meter \................!/ . Claiming superiority in intelligence while using atrociously faulty logic. Your conclusion reached from that factoid is virtually in the same league as "Dogs have 4 legs, therefore all animals with 4 legs are dogs." Not quite as apparent, but close. Bob Weinberger ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
Obama's gone and done it
Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Yeah, yeah, you resent Obama supporters because we think we're smarter than you. Well guess what, we *are* smarter than you. Here's a factoid for you, Mr. Jelly: Vote by Income $200,000 or More - Obama 52% McCain 46% So not only are we smarter than you, we make more money than you. LOL !! Irony meter \................!/ . Claiming superiority in intelligence while using atrociously faulty logic. Your conclusion reached from that factoid is virtually in the same league as "Dogs have 4 legs, therefore all animals with 4 legs are dogs." Not quite as apparent, but close. Yeah, I know that there are a few dozen McCain supporters who make more money than Croesus, Zeus and all the Obama supporters combined but I dumbed down the rhetoric to suit the audience. Call it poetic license. And I did add the LOL !! Now why don't you go swiftboat somebody. |
Obama's gone and done it
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Yeah, I know that there are a few dozen McCain supporters who make more money than Croesus, Zeus and all the Obama supporters combined but I dumbed down the rhetoric to suit the audience. Call it poetic license. And I did add the LOL !! Nice rationalization to cover the flaw in your "superior intelligence" claim. BTW its interesting that by implication you included yourself in the high income group with the statement "we make more money than you". I hade no idea that librarians make over $200,000/yr (your wife). Its unlikely that you, as an unemployed computer weenie, bring much income to the household. Bob Weinberger ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
Obama's gone and done it
Bob Weinberger wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote: Yeah, I know that there are a few dozen McCain supporters who make more money than Croesus, Zeus and all the Obama supporters combined but I dumbed down the rhetoric to suit the audience. Call it poetic license. And I did add the LOL !! Nice rationalization to cover the flaw in your "superior intelligence" claim. BTW its interesting that by implication you included yourself in the high income group with the statement "we make more money than you". I hade no idea that librarians make over $200,000/yr (your wife). The only "we" including myself in that statement was in relation to Obama supporters. Reading anything else into that is fairly typical of your predisposition to lie, distort and mischaracterize. In other words, once a swiftboater always a swiftboater. On the other hand, you might be surprised at what a director of a statewide consortium of academic libraries in Illinois earns per annum. But by law her salary is a part of the public record if you want to look it up. Its unlikely that you, as an unemployed computer weenie, bring much income to the household. Highly unlikely, but stranger things have happened. -- Ken Fortenberry |
Obama's gone and done it
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... The only "we" including myself in that statement was in relation to Obama supporters. Reading anything else into that is fairly typical of your predisposition to lie, distort and mischaracterize. In other words, once a swiftboater always a swiftboater. On the other hand, you might be surprised at what a director of a statewide consortium of academic libraries in Illinois earns per annum. But by law her salary is a part of the public record if you want to look it up. Its unlikely that you, as an unemployed computer weenie, bring much income to the household. Highly unlikely, but stranger things have happened. -- Ken Fortenberry WOW another shining example of your superior intelligence. Yes my saying that your stating that "...we make more money than you." IMPLIES that you are including yourself in the group that makes the big bucks is an absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition to lying, distorting, and micharacterization. LOL. BTW if your wife is Executive Director of CARLI, yes that's a decent salary, but still not sufficient to categorically state that "...we make more money than you." Bob Weinberger ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
Obama's gone and done it
Bob Weinberger wrote:
... Yes my saying that your stating that "...we make more money than you." IMPLIES that you are including yourself in the group that makes the big bucks is an absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition to lying, distorting, and micharacterization. ... Excellent, confession they say is good for the soul. And, finally we've found common ground. -- Ken Fortenberry |
Obama's gone and done it
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message ... Bob Weinberger wrote: ... Yes my saying that your stating that "...we make more money than you." IMPLIES that you are including yourself in the group that makes the big bucks is an absolutely outstanding example of my predisposition to lying, distorting, and micharacterization. ... Excellent, confession they say is good for the soul. And, finally we've found common ground. -- Ken Fortenberry Well if if I believed you were being serious with that statement rather than just continuing to proudly uphold your status as an asshole, it would confirm that those of you who hold themselves to be smarter than most are seriously deluding themselves and just don't get sarcasm. Bob Weinberger ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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