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Charlie Wilson January 21st, 2004 01:47 PM

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"walt winter"wrote:
sounds good. i also tied up some hybrid "bunnies".... i don't
know the real name for the fly, it is a western steelhead
streamer pattern using crosscut rabbit strip tied in as a tail
and then palmered forward. i've been fishing one on the catawba
with some success and so the experimentation has begun. also,
check out this months fly fisherman mag.... there is an article
by Cowens on a clouser using rabbit strip in lieu of bucktail. i
think i'll try to tie up some of those also.


Man, that's BAIT!



Dave LaCourse January 21st, 2004 02:37 PM

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Wally writes:

sounds good. i also tied up some hybrid "bunnies".... i don't
know the real name for the fly, it is a western steelhead
streamer pattern using crosscut rabbit strip tied in as a tail
and then palmered forward. i've been fishing one on the catawba
with some success and so the experimentation has begun. also,
check out this months fly fisherman mag.... there is an article
by Cowens on a clouser using rabbit strip in lieu of bucktail. i
think i'll try to tie up some of those also.

stay warm big guy,


Streamers? STREAMERS? Did that crazy Canook lead you down this dark path?
The *******. Redeem yourself before it's too late.

Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








JR January 21st, 2004 02:58 PM

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walt winter wrote:

sounds good. i also tied up some hybrid "bunnies".... i don't
know the real name for the fly, it is a western steelhead
streamer pattern using crosscut rabbit strip tied in as a tail
and then palmered forward. i've been fishing one on the catawba
with some success and so the experimentation has begun.


They're called bunny leeches by steelheaders out West. Effective--esp.
in purple, black, orange, and red--on rivers like the Sandy for winter
steelhead. I dislike them intensely, however, because for winter fish
you want to get deep quick, and a bunny leech only sinks fast enough if
the fur is loaded with water (in addition to the fly being heavily
weighted) and it is therefore a pain in the butt to cast. Folks I know
who like most to use them are generally spey casters.

JR

Jonathan Cook January 21st, 2004 04:04 PM

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(Tom Littleton) wrote in message ...
Scott adds:
I don't blame him. Ants are much better fished dry


ya might get an argument down here in PA on that one, even.


I've cleaned trout stuffed with ants and a few other terrestrials
that I've suspected were taken under the surface, though I
can't prove it. I think drowned terrestrials are more common
than we know.

Jon.

Tom Littleton January 21st, 2004 10:43 PM

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Jon Cook notes:
I've cleaned trout stuffed with ants and a few other terrestrials
that I've suspected were taken under the surface, though I
can't prove it. I think drowned terrestrials are more common
than we know.


I know a few old-timers that fish with NOTHING except lacquered,wet,black ants
in sizes from 14-18, all summer long.
They sight fish and work the banks in smaller streams, and can make a seemingly
barren summer stream come alive.
Tom
p.s. Best PA trout for me, ever, was to a drowned cricket(standard dry tie,
with a very small shot about 16 inches up the leader).

Tim Lysyk January 22nd, 2004 04:33 AM

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Ken Fortenberry wrote:

I was sight fishing.


Thanks for the response. It sounds quite different from the type of
nymphing I do, as I usually don't sight fish when nymphing.

Tim Lysyk


bruiser January 22nd, 2004 06:09 AM

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"JR" wrote in message ...

you want to get deep quick, and a bunny leech only
sinks fast enough if
the fur is loaded with water (in addition to the fly being heavily
weighted) and it is therefore a pain in the butt to cast.


Try clipping the fur from the hide, spinning it carefully in a dubbing loop,
and winding it on the hook with no hide. They sink and cast WAY better that
way. It's very likely that you already know that tying technique - just
tossing it out there fwiw.

bruce h



JR January 22nd, 2004 12:13 PM

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bruiser wrote:

"JR" wrote in message ...

you want to get deep quick, and a bunny leech only
sinks fast enough if
the fur is loaded with water (in addition to the fly being heavily
weighted) and it is therefore a pain in the butt to cast.


Try clipping the fur from the hide, spinning it carefully in a dubbing loop,
and winding it on the hook with no hide. They sink and cast WAY better that
way. It's very likely that you already know that tying technique - just
tossing it out there fwiw.


In fact, I'd pretty much gone over to marabou leeches instead. I used
to tie in several "sections" of marabou to be able to cover the whole
length of a 3X or 4X hook, but I've recently, thanks to a tip (and link)
got here on ROFF, started using this split thread method:

http://www.peninsulaflyfishers.org/F...hStreamer.html.

The marabou leech has more or less the same profile, and even more
action in the water, I think, but you're right: the same technique
would produce a much improved bunny leech. Good idea.

In any event, it's all increasingly academic. My desire to dredge for
winter steelhead wanes as old farthood tightens its own icy grip. ;)

JR

Tim J. January 24th, 2004 01:45 PM

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"Mike Connor" wrote...
snip
I have lost any respect I ever had for a goodly number, as a direct
result of their behaviour here.


As have I.

It really is a shame.


What is a shame is watching people who are normally sensible self-destruct
before my very eyes. Friends and would-be friends become venomous enemies with a
press of the enter key because they simply cannot contain themselves. The count
seems higher than normal this year. Here's an experiment: anyone can post
whatever replies they want to this post, even slander and libel. Now is your
chance - call me names and say things you wouldn't say in a face-to-face
discussion, and I won't argue or reply because this is EOT for me.

Some of you should try this EOT thingy sometime. It really doesn't hurt.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



rb608 January 24th, 2004 01:50 PM

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"Tim J." wrote in message
What is a shame is watching people who are normally sensible self-destruct
before my very eyes. Friends and would-be friends become venomous enemies

with a
press of the enter key because they simply cannot contain themselves. The

count
seems higher than normal this year.


I sweartagawd Tim, your thoughts echo my own so often, I simply can't
believe you're a Republican. :-)

Joe F.




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