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Dave LaCourse March 5th, 2004 02:47 PM

Speaking of yaks . . .
 
Fortenberry writes:

Say WHAT ?!? Are you senile already ? You don't remember denigrating
both John Kerry and Max Cleland just a few short days ago ? Your
"waving his limbs around" crack was about as low a cheap shot as
any I've ever heard from a poorly educated jingo ****head.


Guilty as charged and I admitted that I was wrong. But the thread about yaks
contained no denigration, just a comparison. I guess it is ok for Tatosian to
be mean spirited about my cancer but not about Kerry's. Kerry suffered the
same cancer as I did, and Tatosian is making fun of it. That is all I was
saying.

Poorly educated? Yeah, I guess so. But I think I'm a little more tolerant
that you, and others.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








BJ Conner March 5th, 2004 03:14 PM

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"riverman" wrote in message ...
"B J Conner" wrote in message
...

I have a Klepper Aerius that doesn't turn over easily. You can in fact set
on the gunwals and it will not flip over, you may fall out but it will
remain upright. When your done paddling it knocks down into three bags
which fit in the trunk of the car.


Ahh, there's a boat I've always been interested in! Tell me more about it,
BJ. Can you stand up in it, how durable is the skin (puncture proof as well
as abrasion proof), how heavy is it when it is packed, does it always pack
to the original size (so many things never seem to fit back into the damn
box), and how much does it cost? Can you do home repairs on it, and how
stiff is it once its set up?

--riverman


Ours weighs about 75- 80 lbs, it's an older one the packs in three
bags (new ones are two).
The bottom is Hypalon and pretty tough. We have never made a habit of
running over sharp rocks but it has stood up well to rocks, branches,
oysters, barb wire and sand ( a few scrapes with barbed wire was the
worst thing we encountered. The factory patch kit fixed it right up).
Ours is 25 years old and still in good shape. I put duct tape on the
keels every year.
Putting it together and back in the bag is easy. You have to develope
a routine so you get every part back in. leaving one of the ribs or
bulkheads on the beach would sure spoil a trip. There are no small
parts like screws to loose. The dealer will make you put it together
and back a couple of times before you leave the store.
The frame flexs and creeks a little but you get use to it. People
surf with them. We have been in rivers but not in any extream rapids.
The whole thing is extreamly well made, if you haven't seen one go
find one look it over. The are remarkabley well made ( two I know of
are in museusms )
The real advantage to it is that it fits in a car. We use to always
have it the back of the car or truck. If you see some little pond or
swamp you want to explore in about 15 minutes your in the water. We
use it for fishing, watching birds and animals and just general
exploring.
I have stood up in. Don recommed it. A friend has stood up in it
twice and fell out, Each time the boat remained upright. Like most
kayaks the seat will turn out to be harder than you butt after a few
hours.

Heres their link
http://www.klepper.com/
I saving up for a new expedition model. I've seen them in baggage at
airports.

rw March 5th, 2004 03:36 PM

Speaking of yaks . . .
 
Dave LaCourse wrote:
Fortenberry writes:


Say WHAT ?!? Are you senile already ? You don't remember denigrating
both John Kerry and Max Cleland just a few short days ago ? Your
"waving his limbs around" crack was about as low a cheap shot as
any I've ever heard from a poorly educated jingo ****head.



Guilty as charged and I admitted that I was wrong.


Yep. You took full responsibility and wiped the slate clean.

But the thread about yaks
contained no denigration, just a comparison. I guess it is ok for Tatosian to
be mean spirited about my cancer but not about Kerry's. Kerry suffered the
same cancer as I did, and Tatosian is making fun of it. That is all I was
saying.


I can tell that you're really, really mad when you start calling
Daytripper by his real name. You do the same thing with me, just before
you get to the "putz" phase and the subsequent apology.

Don't you ever learn, Dave? Before this is over, you'll be apologizing
once again.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Dave LaCourse March 5th, 2004 03:39 PM

Speaking of yaks . . .
 
rw writes:

Don't you ever learn, Dave? Before this is over, you'll be apologizing
once again.


I have nothing to apologize for because I have said nothing to offend anyone.
OTOH, if *I* had made fun of Tatosian's cancer, I think the uproar from you and
Fortenberry would be heard around the world. I was and am simply comparing my
cancer ordeal with Kerry's.

As far as calling him by his name, if you check back, I usually refer to him as
Dave T., DT, etc, and hardly ever as Day Tripper. That is almost as silly as
Royal Wulff.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Dave LaCourse March 5th, 2004 03:46 PM

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Almost forgot: For all you folks out there approaching 55 or so, chances are
you will have prostate cancer before too long. If caught early it can be cured
by removing the organ and leaving certain nerve endings that are necessary so
you will not be incontinent and can get/maintain an erection. Sex is better
afterwards because you are "dried up" just as Tatosian says, and you don't have
to worry about the wet spot.

It is NO joking matter regardless who has it. Most of you will be in the same
situation as I am. Get your PSAs checked and a DRE at least once a year. Like
I said, caught early, it can be cured with very little after affects.
Dave

http://hometown.aol.com/davplac/myhomepage/index.html








Charlie Choc March 5th, 2004 03:48 PM

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On 05 Mar 2004 15:39:34 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

I have nothing to apologize for because I have said nothing to offend anyone.
OTOH, if *I* had made fun of Tatosian's cancer,


I missed that part. What did DT say about your cancer?
--
Charlie...

Jonathan Cook March 5th, 2004 04:01 PM

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Charlie Choc wrote in message . ..
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:22:43 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

Anyway, SOTs, DPCs, Kayaks etc all leave your butt too close to the water
for a good cast, IMNSHO.


Those pictures of "double-paddle" canoes (and the acronyms above) sure
blur the line between what's a kayak and what's a canoe. My curious
mind wants to know -- what features distinguish one from the other?

that it's harder to cast sitting down that makes it more difficult
from a kayak, not having your butt at water level.


You're right -- for about 70% of it. I'd still put 30% for the
level and manner at which you are sitting. Certainly sitting on
a canoe seat with your legs below you (and braced on the sides)
rather than straight out makes casting easier.

When I'm wading butt-deep in water, I'm rarely trying to make
long casts -- I'm probably chucking nymphs into the deep water in
front of me. On a lake, covering water is essential, and
anything to help cast longer is worth it. I agree with riverman
about standing -- I'm almost always standing in our canoe when
casting. I wouldn't buy a solo boat that I couldn't stand up
and cast in.

I'd still buy the boat below if I was looking and had $1000 to
spa

http://www.springcreekprams.com/stillwat.htm

Jon.

Wolfgang March 5th, 2004 04:15 PM

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"Charlie Choc" wrote in
message ...
On 05 Mar 2004 15:39:34 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

I have nothing to apologize for because I have said nothing to

offend anyone.
OTOH, if *I* had made fun of Tatosian's cancer,


I missed that part. What did DT say about your cancer?


Absolutely nothing. Merely another fugue state.

Wolfgang



Kevin Vang March 5th, 2004 04:46 PM

Speaking of yaks . . .
 
In article ,
says...


Those pictures of "double-paddle" canoes (and the acronyms above) sure
blur the line between what's a kayak and what's a canoe. My curious
mind wants to know -- what features distinguish one from the other?


That's a matter of some debate. One article I read finally settled
on rolling as the criterion. If you can roll it, it's a kayak. If
you can't, it's a canoe.


I'd still buy the boat below if I was looking and had $1000 to
spa

http://www.springcreekprams.com/stillwat.htm


If you have a few basic tools, a gallon of epoxy and two sheets of
1/4" plywood, you can build this in a couple of weeks of part-time
work:

http://www.instantboats.com/nymph.htm

Kevin

Willi March 5th, 2004 04:46 PM

Speaking of yaks . . .
 


Jonathan Cook wrote:


When I'm wading butt-deep in water, I'm rarely trying to make
long casts -- I'm probably chucking nymphs into the deep water in
front of me.


The opposite is often true for me especially on larger rivers. When I
wade that deep, I'm usually trying to reach a fish or a holding area
that's some distance away. For stream and river fishing I try to fish as
close as possible in order to get the greatest control over the drift.
However, there are a couple of techniques that work well, sometimes
better, with a long cast. Like Charlie said, if you keep your back cast
up, wading deep shouldn't hurt your cast.

Willi





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