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slenon March 12th, 2004 03:35 PM

OT American Taliban in Congress and the White House
 
rw:
Taking Kettle Hill was crucial to the battle of San Juan Hill. TR and
his Rough Riders and the Buffalo Soldiers also stormed San Juan Hill, at
great risk.


No argument there. I was merely going for accuracy in my earlier post.
The initial charge, and the one that earned them the greater fame was up
Kettle Hill. The popular press wrapped them together and TR rode it as far
as he could.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Dark Star

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm




slenon March 12th, 2004 03:39 PM

Teddy Roosevelt OT American Taliban in Congress and the White House
 
I wonder if a hundredyears from now the textbooks will say GW Bush was a
sly fox for remaining
quiet regarding the pardon of Abdul Qadeer Khan while seeking UN sanctions
against Iran for its secret nuclear program.
Mu
armchair quarterback


It would be interesting to live long enough to read the various historical
accounts of the period since the Beirut Barracks bombings up through the
next two decades. I have my theories on how things will play out, not
necessarily to my liking. I'd like to see how history treats several
nations and several players that we assume to be key today.


--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Dark Star

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm




Wolfgang March 12th, 2004 03:53 PM

OT American Taliban in Congress and the White House
 

"slenon" wrote in message
om...
...I can't imagine any of the
politicians I've grown up with delivering a speech after being

wounded.

Well, if you consider blunt trauma to the head a wound and don't
specify a time frame, the evidence suggests you'd have a very hard
time finding one who hasn't.

Wolfgang



Ken Fortenberry March 12th, 2004 11:43 PM

OT American Taliban in Congress and the White House
 
Darwin Vander Stelt wrote:

... So Teddy, being a Calvinist as I am, ...


You're a Calvinist ? ME TOO !! That Hobbes was one way cool
stuffed tiger, wasn't he ?

Ponder this traditional Zulu oral teaching translated into the English
and transcribed by the novelist Jordan Ngubane.

================================================== ==================================
I evolve forever, in response to the challenge of being human.
I have a mind to light my path in the mazes of the cosmic order.
This mind has many sides;
It comprehends all things;
It establishes my right to latitude; to being heard;
It makes me feel at home in the cosmic order.
My neighbor has a mind;
It, also, comprehends all things.
My neighbor and I have the same origins;
We have the same life-experience and a common destiny;
We are the obverse and reverse sides of one entity;
We are unchanging equals;
We are the faces which see themselves in each other;
We are mutually fulfilling complements;
We are simultaneously legitimate values;
My neighbor's sorrow is my sorrow;
His joy is my joy.
He and I are mutually fulfilled when we stand by each other in moments of need.
His survival is a precondition of my survival.
That which is freely asked or freely given is love;
Imposed love is a crime against humanity.
I am sovereign of my life;
My neighbor is sovereign of his life;
Society is a collective sovereignty;
It exists to ensure that my neighbor and I realize the promise of being human.
I have no right to anything I deny my neighbor...
I define myself in what I do to my neighbor.
No community has any right to prescribe destiny for other communities...
Equals do not prescribe destiny for each other;
They hold conversations of minds.
================================================== ===============================


--
Ken Fortenberry


Wolfgang March 13th, 2004 01:00 AM

OT American Taliban in Congress and the White House
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Darwin Vander Stelt wrote:

... So Teddy, being a Calvinist as I am, ...


You're a Calvinist ? ME TOO !! That Hobbes was one way cool
stuffed tiger, wasn't he ?

Ponder this traditional Zulu oral teaching translated into the English
and transcribed by the novelist Jordan Ngubane.


================================================== ==========================
========
I evolve forever, in response to the challenge of being human.
I have a mind to light my path in the mazes of the cosmic order.
This mind has many sides;
It comprehends all things;
It establishes my right to latitude; to being heard;
It makes me feel at home in the cosmic order.
My neighbor has a mind;
It, also, comprehends all things.
My neighbor and I have the same origins;
We have the same life-experience and a common destiny;
We are the obverse and reverse sides of one entity;
We are unchanging equals;
We are the faces which see themselves in each other;
We are mutually fulfilling complements;
We are simultaneously legitimate values;
My neighbor's sorrow is my sorrow;
His joy is my joy.
He and I are mutually fulfilled when we stand by each other in moments of

need.
His survival is a precondition of my survival.
That which is freely asked or freely given is love;
Imposed love is a crime against humanity.
I am sovereign of my life;
My neighbor is sovereign of his life;
Society is a collective sovereignty;
It exists to ensure that my neighbor and I realize the promise of being

human.
I have no right to anything I deny my neighbor...
I define myself in what I do to my neighbor.
No community has any right to prescribe destiny for other communities...
Equals do not prescribe destiny for each other;
They hold conversations of minds.


Hm.......smells like fried mopani worms.

Wolfgang




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