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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:49:55 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
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IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never
heard of him.

He's a cartoon character, much like some of the roff 'personality's except
with some creative talent behind him. g
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In article , Charlie Choc
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:49:55 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never
heard of him.

He's a cartoon character, much like some of the roff 'personality's except
with some creative talent behind him. g

The best intro is at www.thesimpsons.com

hmmm flash media

Allen

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 20:49:55 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"

wrote:

IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never
heard of him.

He's a cartoon character, much like some of the roff 'personality's except
with some creative talent behind him. g

The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly
formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it?

Wolfgang
"ooh, i love your magazine. especially the 'enrich your word power'
section. i think it's really...really...really good."

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:

The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly
formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it?

I was hoping someone would clarify that.

Clarify what?

Get it?

See above.

OK, I'll bite. By 'formulaic', do you mean that it follows accepted and
familiar structures of jokes? If so, then that was a rather tautological
statement: if it DIDN'T follow the structure of a joke, it wouldn't be
funny, hence it wouldn't be successful. You merely said "Its funny because
its funny."

The other option for what you meant that I can visualize is that, by
'formulaic', you meant 'proscribed'. That they have a set of well-defined
types of statements that Homer will make, and as such, we are conditioned to
expect those statements, and hence, we 'get it' because it fits what we are
expecting.

--riverman

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:

The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly
formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it?

I was hoping someone would clarify that. Get it?
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:

The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly
formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it?

I was hoping someone would clarify that.

Clarify what?

Get it?

See above.

Wolfgang
who, generous to a fault, is willing to proceed on the assumption that there
IS a point........until proved wrong.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:55:32 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:

The writing for "The Simpsons" is successful because it's highly
formulaic.......otherwise you wouldn't get it.......get it?

I was hoping someone would clarify that.

Clarify what?

Get it?

See above.

OK, I'll bite. By 'formulaic', do you mean that it follows accepted and
familiar structures of jokes?

Among other things, yes.

If so, then that was a rather tautological
statement: if it DIDN'T follow the structure of a joke, it wouldn't be
funny, hence it wouldn't be successful. You merely said "Its funny because
its funny."

An observation that serious students of humor always bump up
against.......and much sooner than they expect. Stevie thinks that watching
someone fall down and break a pelvis or a vertebra is funny. It's not.
Fictional depictions of such an event CAN be funny.....or not. In either
case, a thorough examination of why it strikes someone as funny inevitably
results in a lot of head scratching. In the one case, most people would
agree that it's pathological, but this brings no one any closer to an
understanding of why it' perceived as funny. In the other, the only real
difference is the absence of pathology.....everything else is equally
inscrutable. Or, to put it another way......yeah.

The other option

"An" other option.

for what you meant that I can visualize is that, by
'formulaic', you meant 'proscribed'.

I suspect you meant prEscribed. Not the same thing at all. Quite the
contrary.

That they have a set of well-defined
types of statements that Homer will make, and as such, we are conditioned
to
expect those statements, and hence, we 'get it' because it fits what we
are
expecting.

Yep. But, what makes it all delicious is a certain limited randomness.
What makes Homie delightful is that his responses to people and situations
are entirely predictable, but only within the confines of a limited number
of sets. The response from a particular set will never surprise us.....but
we have a lot of fun trying to anticipate which set will come to bear on a
particular situation. Will it be "Mmmmmmm.....cyyyaniiiide!", or a shriek?
Of course, the same can also be said for all of the other regular
characters......that's what makes them work......that's what makes them
recognizable.....that's what makes them human.

The people who write "The Simpsons" clearly understand their audience, and
they have hit on a formula that works. For example, they can.....and
routinely DO.....take gratuitous shots at "'personality's" purely for
humorous effect and, by and large, it works. One of the reasons it works is
that one never gets the impression that the shots are inspired by an
overwhelming need to demonstrate that they are funnier, brighter, or in some
other way superior to other writers or the members of their audience. In
short, they treat their audience like adults. Not surprisingly, those who
give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind.

Wolfgang

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it's teevee joe... as a man of letters and a genuine english scholar,
you would not be expected to know about homer. it aint the illyad, but
hs'll do for an allegory or a lesson on the quick....

Joe McIntosh wrote:

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 18:42:41 +0200, "riverman" wrote:

"Kids, kids. As far as Daddy's concerned, you're both potential

murderers."

"I have feelings too - like 'My stomach hurts' or 'I'm going crazy!'"

Homer Simpson
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IJ asks- did Homer Simpson write children's book or what--I have never
heard of him.

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Wolfgang wrote:
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In short, ...

Gawd, wouldn't THAT be a blessing.

Not surprisingly, those who
give the matter any though are pleased to reciprocate in kind.

Think about that sentence for a minute. When it finally dawns on
you that the last two words are as stupid as they are superfluous
you'll have learned a lesson.

Or not, I don't claim to be a GOOD teacher.

--
Ken Fortenberry