First Aid kits
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
...
A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some
antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because
of
all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never
crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but
considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in
wet
waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think
I
ought to.

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in
their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry
them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?

--riverman

First aid is for the "immediate and temporary treatment" of wounds or
illness. It is just to patch you up for the time being until you can get
back to care or to a doctor.

I have several first aid kits. I carry one at work, and pull it out to
doctor to others far more times than I do to doctor myself. I have one in
the house. I have one in the motorhome. I have one in the ATV. I always
have one. I had bypass surgery two years ago, and take Coumadin, so I
bleed
more than normal.

I carry them in ammo boxes, snap top Tupperware containers, whatever fits
where I need to put it. A small square or rectangular flat snaptop
Tupperware style box is good for a vest. Waterproof if you can get it.

I carry AT LEAST:

1" Band aids - the cloth strip things that last a week and water won't
take
off.
A roll of the stretchy tan cloth tape. Same kind.
Some 2x2" gauze pads.
A roll of 1.5" gauze.
A fingernail trimmer.
Very tiny scissors.
A tube of that ointment for cuts.
Some Bactine wipes.
Some alcohol wipes.
Some packets of two tylenols.

Since most injuries are cuts, this does pretty good.

In my fully stocked kits, it is more of the same, add some finger cots,
more
and bigger gauze and pads, a couple of different size and styles of tape,
a
bigger variety of band-aids including butterfly and knuckle varieties,
Foille burn ointment, Benadryl, a few of my prescription meds, a vacuum
packed and shrunk shoulder sling, Ace bandages, and lots of other goodies
I
can't think of right now.

The two things you have to consider when putting together a kit is space
and
purpose. How much room do you have, and what will you likely use it for?
One for a vest would be just to get you back to camp. One for the car
would
be for whatever comes up.

I have dealt with amputated fingers, severe cuts, car crashes, falls, and
lots of first aid situations. It isn't until you deal with a few of these
and get caught flat footed that one realizes how important they are, and
what is needed for NEXT time. I love it when the kit goes unopened, and
when I need it for myself or another, and what I need is in there.
Calming
an injured person is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT in first aid, and a person with a
kit is a comfort to a victim, no matter what the medic's level of
experience
is.

Steve

The ideal, fully stocked first aid kit contains:

A: morphine
B: epinephrine
C: aspirin
D: tape
E: a sharp blade


Wolfgang
by and large, it is a best to leave out the morphine, epinephrine, aspirin,
and tape........or carry a ****in' ambulance.
ya'll live on a REALLY strange planet.

First Aid kits
 

"SteveB" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
...
A friend skinned his elbow playing basketball, and came to me for some
antiseptic and a bandaid. He figured I carried some in my vest because
of
all those hooks swinging around, etc. Funny thing is that it never
crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, but
considering all the times I've fallen trying to hop from rock to rock in
wet
waders, slipped on rough ground, face planted into bushes, etc, I think
I
ought to.

My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in
their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube? How many folks carry
them
in their car instead, and how many don't carry anything at all?

And what do you carry in them?

--riverman

First aid is for the "immediate and temporary treatment" of wounds or
illness. It is just to patch you up for the time being until you can get
back to care or to a doctor.

I have several first aid kits. I carry one at work, and pull it out to
doctor to others far more times than I do to doctor myself. I have one in
the house. I have one in the motorhome. I have one in the ATV. I always
have one. I had bypass surgery two years ago, and take Coumadin, so I
bleed
more than normal.

I carry them in ammo boxes, snap top Tupperware containers, whatever fits
where I need to put it. A small square or rectangular flat snaptop
Tupperware style box is good for a vest. Waterproof if you can get it.

I carry AT LEAST:

1" Band aids - the cloth strip things that last a week and water won't
take
off.
A roll of the stretchy tan cloth tape. Same kind.
Some 2x2" gauze pads.
A roll of 1.5" gauze.
A fingernail trimmer.
Very tiny scissors.
A tube of that ointment for cuts.
Some Bactine wipes.
Some alcohol wipes.
Some packets of two tylenols.

Since most injuries are cuts, this does pretty good.

In my fully stocked kits, it is more of the same, add some finger cots,
more
and bigger gauze and pads, a couple of different size and styles of tape,
a
bigger variety of band-aids including butterfly and knuckle varieties,
Foille burn ointment, Benadryl, a few of my prescription meds, a vacuum
packed and shrunk shoulder sling, Ace bandages, and lots of other goodies
I
can't think of right now.

The two things you have to consider when putting together a kit is space
and
purpose. How much room do you have, and what will you likely use it for?
One for a vest would be just to get you back to camp. One for the car
would
be for whatever comes up.

I have dealt with amputated fingers, severe cuts, car crashes, falls, and
lots of first aid situations. It isn't until you deal with a few of these
and get caught flat footed that one realizes how important they are, and
what is needed for NEXT time. I love it when the kit goes unopened, and
when I need it for myself or another, and what I need is in there.
Calming
an injured person is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT in first aid, and a person with a
kit is a comfort to a victim, no matter what the medic's level of
experience
is.

Steve

The ideal, fully stocked first aid kit contains:

A: morphine
B: epinephrine
C: aspirin
D: tape
E: a sharp blade


Wolfgang
by and large, it is a best to leave out the morphine, epinephrine, aspirin,
and tape........or carry a ****in' ambulance.
ya'll live on a REALLY strange planet.

First Aid kits
 

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:09:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:57:57 -0400, Peter Charles
wrote:

German car but I had to get my own kit

German brand or German-made? I got to thinking about it, and IIRC, the
grey-market (grey- to the US, i.e., built for Euro use) cars had a
compartment on the back deck specifically for the kit, whereas the
US-market cars did not. I have no idea what the Euro-to-Canada
requirements are - do y'all have to do things as had to be done to bring
Euro-market cars into the US (new windshield/screen, headlights, door
bars, etc.)?

Peter

With a few minor differences, our cars are like US spec. There's a
spot in the trunk for the kit with the first aid cross on the cover,
but no kit. Mine was actually made in Brazil for the Canadian market.

Peter

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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:50:04 -0400, Peter Charles
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:09:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:57:57 -0400, Peter Charles
wrote:

German car but I had to get my own kit

German brand or German-made? I got to thinking about it, and IIRC, the
grey-market (grey- to the US, i.e., built for Euro use) cars had a
compartment on the back deck specifically for the kit, whereas the
US-market cars did not. I have no idea what the Euro-to-Canada
requirements are - do y'all have to do things as had to be done to bring
Euro-market cars into the US (new windshield/screen, headlights, door
bars, etc.)?

Peter

With a few minor differences, our cars are like US spec. There's a
spot in the trunk for the kit with the first aid cross on the cover,
but no kit. Mine was actually made in Brazil for the Canadian market.

My Audi has the same kit that Dave's has, in the same location, but both of
our cars were built in Germany...

/daytripper (I hope never to need mine ;-)

First Aid kits
 

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 20:50:04 -0400, Peter Charles
wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:09:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:57:57 -0400, Peter Charles
wrote:

German car but I had to get my own kit

German brand or German-made? I got to thinking about it, and IIRC, the
grey-market (grey- to the US, i.e., built for Euro use) cars had a
compartment on the back deck specifically for the kit, whereas the
US-market cars did not. I have no idea what the Euro-to-Canada
requirements are - do y'all have to do things as had to be done to bring
Euro-market cars into the US (new windshield/screen, headlights, door
bars, etc.)?

Peter

With a few minor differences, our cars are like US spec. There's a
spot in the trunk for the kit with the first aid cross on the cover,
but no kit. Mine was actually made in Brazil for the Canadian market.

My Audi has the same kit that Dave's has, in the same location, but both of
our cars were built in Germany...

/daytripper (I hope never to need mine ;-)

First Aid kits
 

On 11 Jul 2004 18:04:47 GMT, irate (Dave LaCourse)
wrote:

Lazarus asks:

In article ,
wrote:



I would add that a tube of "super glue" should be in all kits. This is
very handy for sealing annoying minor cuts or "new-skinning" blisters,
and could be a life-saver in the event of a major cut/wound. Make sure
to get the "dropper" type and not the "push pen" type. The kind I look
for is the stubby, round bottle with the screw-on cap.

didn't know this. Have you tried it? Does it work?

Lazarus


Quite well. But be careful on which brand you use. The first one I tried
(can't remember the brand) caused more pain than the cut on my thumb. It
sealed the wound, but hurt like hell. The one I now use is called Nexcare and
comes in a small bottle with a brush applicator. It is excellent for sealing
cracked skin (my thumbs) in the winter. *Don't*, however, use in on an
infected would.


Someone later on mentioned NuSkin. Yeah, it hurts a bit. So does
superglue. I think it does depend on your individual pain tolerance.
I certainly would use either again, though I'd prefer superglue. Both
will peel off after a certain amount of being immersed in water and
sweating under them.

The only first aid items I try to carry are a Sawyer Snake Bite kit
(very nice for wasp stings and splinters and so forth) and I try to
always have the emergency blanket that folds up very small. Takes up
almost no room, weighs almost nothing and could be a life saver. I
just ignore most minor injuries until evening, when I whine about them
a bit and pick at them. Oh, a cut will get some antiseptic hand wash
on it or a dab of Jack Daniels if I have either along. Most first aid
kits don't do diddly for big ones. Duct tape is good. It's not what
any medical person would recommend, but...
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

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First Aid kits
 

"riverman" wrote...
My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube?

No vest, I use a small fanny pack. Someday, if I eat enough donuts, I hope
to move up to a big fanny pack.

I carry a flask of scotch - to keep away the dew - and a mini-pack of baby
wipes, so I'll always feel fresh as a daisy.

Timothy Juvenal

First Aid kits
 

"riverman" wrote...
My question: how many of us out there carry a small first aid kit in their
vest when they're fishing, or in their float tube?

No vest, I use a small fanny pack. Someday, if I eat enough donuts, I hope
to move up to a big fanny pack.

I carry a flask of scotch - to keep away the dew - and a mini-pack of baby
wipes, so I'll always feel fresh as a daisy.

Timothy Juvenal

First Aid kits
 

riverman wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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riverman wrote:

... Funny thing is that it never crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, ...

When I was a guide I was required to have one at all times and be
Red Cross certified to use it.



Ken, I didn't know you guided. What did you Guide, and where?

--riverman
(ex-Guide)

I knew that you were an ex-guide, that's why it seemed remarkable
to me that it had never crossed your mind to have a First Aid Kit
on the water.

I guided northwoods canoe trips from Gunflint Trail, Minnesota in
'74 and '75.

--
Ken Fortenberry

First Aid kits
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
gy.com...
riverman wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in
message
gy.com...

riverman wrote:

... Funny thing is that it never crossed
my mind to have a First Aid kit with me while I'm out on the water, ...

When I was a guide I was required to have one at all times and be
Red Cross certified to use it.



Ken, I didn't know you guided. What did you Guide, and where?

--riverman
(ex-Guide)

I knew that you were an ex-guide, that's why it seemed remarkable
to me that it had never crossed your mind to have a First Aid Kit
on the water.

Oh, its worse that that. I'm a 15 year EMT-W. I used to carry an extensive
first aid kit in my car, and a portable one in my daypack. Between the
hardware and the software (my brain) there was a lot I could do with very
little. I carried splints, trach tubes, regulated drugs, scalpels and
sutures, lots of stuff that wasn't always technically legal, but when you
are deep in the boonies, no one seems to care when their bone is jutting out
or a tree is impaled in their eye.

But during the regular process of shipping stuff worldwide, coupled with a
lot of local resistance to letting people with EMT level from another
country actually get involved, coupled with school's paranoia about teachers
doing any med work on kids, coupled with the difficulty of keeping it
stocked with stuff...my major med kit pretty much got whittled down to
nothing. Now, I keep a rather thorough personal kit in my bathroom, with
lots of goodies I can use on myself of unsuspecting guests, but I was
actually pretty suprised when I realized that I don't keep anything in my
vest. Neither do I usually travel with my personal kit, as its really too
small to do any first-responder stuff, and too big for a travel kit.
Usually, SWMBO carries a thorough med kit for both of us, but we're on
separate vacations this summer.


I guided northwoods canoe trips from Gunflint Trail, Minnesota in
'74 and '75.

Ahh, canoes....

--riverman