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On Mar 21, 4:44 pm, "rb608" wrote:
On Mar 21, 9:59 am, wrote: Or telling me that the rod action affects what size fly you can cast, when it has absolutely nothing to do with it? On this, I must respectfully disagree. If I may use one of Sir a Isaac's favorite equations, F=ma, it's clear that fast action rods and slow action rods have different capacities for the acceleration component of that equation, and thus have a mathematical difference in the force they can generate with a constant mass, or a different mass with a constant force. That difference can manifest itself in either the fly characteristics or distance cast; but there *will* be a non- zero difference. Joe F. Firstly, rods donīt accelerate anything, casters do. The thing which is accelerated is the line, the line carries the fly. Rod action affects how much line speed may be attained, but it is the line which carries the fly. There is a slight difference in the amount of weight which a fast moving line can carry, as opposed to a slow moving line, OF THE SAME WEIGHT, but this is in fact quite minimal, as it is primarily dependent on the basic carrying capability of the moving line mass. There are also quite precise limits to what a line can carry at all. Regardless of how fast you manage to accelerate say a standard #3 weight line, ( using a rod) it will not carry more than a certain amount of weight, ( or a bushy fluid resistant fly, )the weight it can carry ( or the fluid resistance it can overcome) is directly proportional to the line mass which is actually pulling the fly along behind it by unrolling. This may also be roughly expressed in grains per foot ( ignoring the taper etc). The relationship of fly weight ( and/or fluid resistance if known) which the line will carry at all may be shown on a graph of grains per foot/fly weight. So although I would prefer to qualify it exactly, I donīt disagree with you there about the difference being non-zero.It is however negligible. There are some measurements on this in various studies, but that would take us too far away from the present subject matter, and merely confuse the issue. The difference which accrues by using a shorter line of the same mass is however very considerable. Regardless of the rod used. The shorter line OF THE SAME WEIGHT, will carry heavier flies faster and further. It has more grains per foot, it offers less fluid resistance than a longer line of the same weight, and it is also a great deal easier to load the rod properly with it. Something very many casters have severe problems with. This is the basic point here. TL MC |
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Incidentally, although a lot is talked about line speed, this is also
something of a misnomer. The force which causes a fly line to unroll is the same force that keeps it in the air. Tension. The more force applied to the line, the greater the tension in it, and the faster the loop unrolls. It is the loop unrolling which pulls the fly along behind it. The bottom leg of the loop ( in an overhead cast) is stationary, its speed is exactly zero. TL MC |
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Furthermore, this is also why fast rods cast further, they generate
more tension in the line. Hauling also massively increases line tension, which is also why hauling allows you to cast further. It really has nothing at all to do with line speed as such. The greater tension makes the loop unroll faster. TL MC |
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And even furthermore, this is why slack at any point will kill a cast.
Tension is released, and the line begins to fall immediately. It is also the reason for tailing loops, and most other casting faults. tension is released, the rod tip deviates from a straight line path, and that was that. So you see folks, all the Fortenberries, Dick****s and other clever****es in the whole world wont make any difference. If you just think a little but about what I have written, you donīt even have to try it, you will see that it is exactly correct. If you take it to heart, you will also be a much better caster. Have a nice day................ TL MC |
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On Mar 21, 7:17 pm, "Tim J."
wrote: SNiPPED 3) Spend more time learning how to stalk the fish, select the right fly, and present the fly to the fish. The rest will take care of itself. -- TL, Tim -------------------------http://css.sbcma.com/timj Good advice, if you want to be just like all the other stupid unthinking dumbos who canīt cast, and know virtually nothing about their equipment or how to use it, much less how to catch fish. You know why 5% of the anglers catch 95% of the fish? Because that 95% of anglers who consistently fail are just as stupid and ignorant as this lot. MC |
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