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Rick wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten
way out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms..
Hmmm makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

Rick

Bush is the biggest spender since LBJ:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/v-print/story/20767.html

Wake up and stop drinking the Kool-Aid, Rick.

No where did I say I liked Bush... Yes he has given all Republicans a bad
name.. Can't change that till next year.. But it will be worse with
Clinton.. More taxes even bigger government. After letting the Klintons rip
off the american public once, you would think that we all would be running
from them now, but we as americans have a short memory now. Lets face it, to
be in politics, its all about who can be the biggest crook and get away with
it.

It's class warfare, and my class is winning, but it shouldn't be.

(apologies to Warren Buffet)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

A Patriotic Charity

Rick wrote:

So you want the socialized health care and you want the government to
control every aspect of your life eh?? Figures... Government has gotten way
out of hand.. a little sence of security at the loss of freedoms.. Hmmm
makes sense... Its time to take back some of the power away from
government.. Yeah government run health care and social services works so
well in other countries.. Yeah......

You're a fool. I shouldn't even be wasting my time discussing this with
you, but ...

The US has the most inefficient health-care system in the civilized
world, or even the semi-civilized world. We have higher costs and worse
outcomes. The rich get the best care available, and the poor and the
struggling middle class get dick. It's a disgrace.

Now our Dear Leader, GWB, says he's going to veto the next SCHIP bill.
It's too expensive, leads to "socialized medicine" he says. This is
after spending billions (soon to be trillions) on the Iraq debacle
(based on phoney stove-piped "intelligence") and signing every
pork-laden Republican spending bill that's ever crossed his desk.

You're a fool.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

A Patriotic Charity

"rw" wrote in message
m...
I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters can
go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

and humble, you forgot to mention humble.....
Tom

A Patriotic Charity

"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
news:HHEUi.54$gl1.14@trndny09...

"rw" wrote in message
m...
I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

and humble, you forgot to mention humble.....
Tom

King Solomon had nothing on you sir!

Op --while Oh So Envious! of rw's wealth, is in complete awe of Tom's
uncanny ability to render the true meaning of rw's inscrutably complex
sacrificial offerings.--

A Patriotic Charity

Tom Littleton wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
m...

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters can
go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

and humble, you forgot to mention humble.....

I guess you missed the point, which is:

Wealthy people have a responsibility to pay their fair share of taxes to
support the common good. The past (nearly) eight years has been a
history of taking from the poor and giving to the rich, or, more
accurately, the super rich.

It's curious how the poor and the struggling middle class have let this
happen. I suspect the root cause is the Horatio Alger syndrome -- many
people think that they will one day be wealthy. They're kidding themselves.

I've been very fortunate with my financial situation. It's been a
combination of hard work, frugality, good investments, and a great deal
of luck. Probably luck being the most important factor. I want to pay
more taxes, and I want everyone in my bracket to pay more taxes, so we
can have a decent health care, education, and other social services for
those not so fortunate.

I DON'T want to pay more taxes to support a deceitfully-sold endless war
in Iraq.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

A Patriotic Charity

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:17:23 -0700, rw
wrote:

Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner

Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid

No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes, she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as are
the grand parents..

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

The motto of the nouveau riche: "I won't notice the cost" - en banner
below a field of Starbucks' cups and polo players on alligators wearing
Bluetooth earpieces, supported by Paris Hilton and Hillary Clinton,
made-up lionesses in, er, hot couture, with the latest, greatest, new
and improved for inset year here over-priced fly rod proudly yet
unknowingly as a bar sinister slashing the whole mess...

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more)

HOT DAMN!!! You can pay all of mine that you can afford...it'll solve
at least two of your many, um, issues...

so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services
that only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

Evidently, neither of you girls has the slightest idea of the definition
of "liberal" (classical or "modern") or any understanding of economics
(macro-, micro-. political, or otherwise), and at least one of you has
no idea of the meaning of "middle class." Here's a hint: there is no
such thing as "upper middle class" - if anyone is a US citizen, and MUST
label themselves, they are at best "middle class" and there is no way to
gather enough money or property to ever become "upper class." If Bill
Gates, Warren Buffet, and all the Waltons pooled their assets and gave
it to another US citizen, that person would still be, at best, "middle
class." But it is VERY amusing to see that "Mr. Liberal" imagines
himself to have eeked up past others in "class"...

But do carry on,
R

A Patriotic Charity

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:17:23 -0700, rw
wrote:

Rick wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Oct 25, 3:31 pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:30:53 -0000, BJ Conner

Yeah, just wanted to yank Rick's chain. Nothing in the Constitution
that says we get a free education, deserving or not. Same thing with
military retirement or the GI bill. We just put programs (and taxes)
in place and continue them long after the original situation that
caused that is over and done with. These are nice perks that many
people think they've "earned." Its the cost of doing business when
your business is the government. Its just long term investment for
the government. Give the folks education, make them more productive,
earning potential goes up and they pay more into taxes. Since I still
work for the government, 100% of my income comes out of your taxes.
The government payed to make me more marketable and now they are
paying again for what they created. Being brilliant doesn't guarantee
you an education, if you want it, someones gonna have to pay for it.
Frank Reid

No yanking my chain.. We knew that even with a full scholarship we
would
still be paying a boat load. We set up funds fall the kids after each
one
was born.. The oldest daughter almost has as much with the funds and
savings
as what she was awarded in the scholarships.. She earned the
scholarships
via her hard work and effort in school. But depending on where she goes,
she
had things covered one way or another.. We are just proud that she is a
great daughter that has a good head on her shoulders and isn't messed up
in
drugs or other things...Political views dont matter at all when they are
strung out on drugs or worse.. So we feel very fortunate to have the
children we have. Can't take all the credit though, her mom is great as
are
the grand parents..

I'm so rich (self-made -- grew up in a trailer park) that my daughters
can go to school anywhere they want and I won't even notice the cost.

The motto of the nouveau riche: "I won't notice the cost" - en banner
below a field of Starbucks' cups and polo players on alligators wearing
Bluetooth earpieces, supported by Paris Hilton and Hillary Clinton,
made-up lionesses in, er, hot couture, with the latest, greatest, new
and improved for inset year here over-priced fly rod proudly yet
unknowingly as a bar sinister slashing the whole mess...

I'm also a political liberal. I believe that the growing disparity of
wealth in this country is evil, and is leading to a have/have-not class
structure. I'm more than willing to pay more taxes (way more)

HOT DAMN!!! You can pay all of mine that you can afford...it'll solve
at least two of your many, um, issues...

so we can
have better public health care, education, and other social services
that only government can offer.

Evidently, according to your diagnosis, Rick, I have cancer.

Evidently, neither of you girls has the slightest idea of the definition
of "liberal" (classical or "modern") or any understanding of economics
(macro-, micro-. political, or otherwise), and at least one of you has
no idea of the meaning of "middle class." Here's a hint: there is no
such thing as "upper middle class" - if anyone is a US citizen, and MUST
label themselves, they are at best "middle class" and there is no way to
gather enough money or property to ever become "upper class." If Bill
Gates, Warren Buffet, and all the Waltons pooled their assets and gave
it to another US citizen, that person would still be, at best, "middle
class." But it is VERY amusing to see that "Mr. Liberal" imagines
himself to have eeked up past others in "class"...

GOD! how it must hurt to be you! I suppose that shouldn't be funny. :)

But do carry on,

Oh yes, do.

Wolfgang

A Patriotic Charity

On 25 Oct, 22:27, "Rick" lanr-at-centurytel.net wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message

...

Rick wrote:

I don't keep track of the Northern Illinois Huskies although
they are one of those directional schools the big-time programs
fear. I do follow the Fighting Illini of the University of Illinois
and it was no surprise when Michigan thrashed them last week.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Well they are a team that others seem to underestimate though...Its nice to
see them make people sit up and take notice from time to time..

all the political crap aside, You do have my respect when it comes to fly
fishing knowledge.. I have picked up a lot this past year reading some of
your posts.. But the Mikey posts have been the best at times :-)

Rick

Liberal is not bad, but dumb liberals are a pain in the arse.

MC