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OT has to happen all the time. I guess
 

"jeff" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:17:20 -0500, "Tim J."
wrote:


I've heard they can also change it back again. Is there any truth to
that?


Sure...well, with a suitably large retainer against a rather steep
hourly rate, IAC...

Oh, this won't help,
R

magic can be expensive at times, and we have too few genuine magicians
(those who have the talent to perform wonders, not just charge for
admission). g

On the other hand, as television producers and advertisers (among many
others.....this is just the most obvious and familiar example) know only to
well, the ability to successfully and repeatedly charge for admission, while
performing nothing even vaguely resembling wonders in return, is its own
special sort of genuine magic. :)

Wolfgang
THIS WAY TO THE EGRESS!!--

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Tim J. wrote:

rw typed:

Zimbo wrote:

On Dec 19, 4:22 pm, "Larry L" wrote:


Being a bit "cell phone conscious" lately I really noticed the
number of people with the damn things stuck to their ears as they
whipped through lanes of traffic, eager to save, maybe, a second or
two.

One time I was out fly fishing and--I swear I'm not making this up--
took a call from RDean. Fortunately, I was able to continue casting
with my right hand while my left hand held the cell phone up to my
ear or someone might have been seriously injured. I did have to put
RDean momentarily on hold a couple of times while I released fish
back to the water but he probably didn't notice.

You should have declined the call and blocked all further ones.

I've never received a call from RDean, but if I ever do he'll get an
earful.


I'm sure he'll stay on the line and listen to the entire rant. I know *I*
would! :)

I've had the pleasure of taking a call from rdean, and it's one I very much
appreciated.

likewise...i received an unexpected call at my office and had a pleasant
chat with aruhdean. i've also tele'd with zimbo...and, hell, i recall
driving back from penns one year when that "fish thief" makela called my
cell phone (actually my wife's, loaned to me for the trip) as he was
standing in penns releasing the 24" brown in miller's run that i tried
to catch for more than 3 hours the day before... no telling how many
other drivers and pedestrians were placed in jeopardy during that call.
can't remember if i had my seatbelt on...

jeff

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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:16:44 -0800 (PST), Zimbo
wrote:

On Dec 21, 12:35*am, wrote:

I did notice, and if you recall, I offered to call you at a
more-convenient time, but you continued the call. *And if you further
recall, I called you without knowledge of where you were. *I'd offer
that if your story has any meaning, it is the fact that you had your
cell phone on astream and were taking calls there says something about
you and nothing whatsoever about anyone who happened to call your cell
phone - at your invitation - without any knowledge that you were
astream.


Why on earth would I not gladly take a call from someone on ROFF
whilst fly fishing? It seemed like kismet at the time and still does.

Again, speaking for myself, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the
identity or purpose of the caller, it's the fact that you had your cell
on and were answering it while FFing. I don't think it "wrong" per se,
just, well, seemingly out-of-place. Apparently, based on some of the
replies, some take varying degrees of offense to cell phone use while
astream. I don't, but for me, they aren't activities I'd care to
combine. I do confess, however, that there are damned few activities I
care to combine with using a cell. Unless I am expecting a series of
real communications via cell - i.e., coordinating something back and
forth - I leave mine on silent 90-plus% of the time and answer or
return calls as time and circumstance permit. Fortunately, I actually
am important enough, business-wise, to do whatever the hell I please
with regard to taking calls, and if _any_ caller, business or personal,
reaches me via cell, they can be assured that I _wanted_ to take the
call and speak with them rather than felt any _need_ to do so. My
father used to say that his cell was there purely for his convenience
and use, not the caller's, and that pretty well fits into my feelings
toward them. Much like reading posts on ROFF, it is purely a matter of
choices.

Happy Holidays,
R

--Steve

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wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 05:16:44 -0800 (PST), Zimbo
wrote:

On Dec 21, 12:35 am, wrote:

I did notice, and if you recall, I offered to call you at a
more-convenient time, but you continued the call. And if you further
recall, I called you without knowledge of where you were. I'd offer
that if your story has any meaning, it is the fact that you had your
cell phone on astream and were taking calls there says something about
you and nothing whatsoever about anyone who happened to call your cell
phone - at your invitation - without any knowledge that you were
astream.


Why on earth would I not gladly take a call from someone on ROFF
whilst fly fishing? It seemed like kismet at the time and still does.

Again, speaking for myself, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the
identity or purpose of the caller, it's the fact that you had your cell
on and were answering it while FFing. I don't think it "wrong" per se,
just, well, seemingly out-of-place. Apparently, based on some of the
replies, some take varying degrees of offense to cell phone use while
astream. I don't, but for me, they aren't activities I'd care to
combine. I do confess, however, that there are damned few activities I
care to combine with using a cell. Unless I am expecting a series of
real communications via cell - i.e., coordinating something back and
forth - I leave mine on silent 90-plus% of the time and answer or
return calls as time and circumstance permit. Fortunately, I actually
am important enough, business-wise, to do whatever the hell I please
with regard to taking calls, and if _any_ caller, business or personal,
reaches me via cell, they can be assured that I _wanted_ to take the
call and speak with them rather than felt any _need_ to do so. My
father used to say that his cell was there purely for his convenience
and use, not the caller's, and that pretty well fits into my feelings
toward them. Much like reading posts on ROFF, it is purely a matter of
choices.

Wow, you really ARE important!

I, however, am MORE important. I ALWAYS leave my cell phone on.....wherever
I am.....and no dares to call and disturb me.....EVER!

HAH!

Wolfgang
but let no one suppose that this sort of power goes to my head......i am
approachable, so long as the proprieties are observed with due diligence and
deference.

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On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:03:01 -0700, rw
wrote:

Zimbo wrote:
On Dec 19, 4:22 pm, "Larry L" wrote:

Being a bit "cell phone conscious" lately I really noticed the number of
people with the damn things stuck to their ears as they whipped through
lanes of traffic, eager to save, maybe, a second or two.



One time I was out fly fishing and--I swear I'm not making this up--
took a call from RDean. Fortunately, I was able to continue casting
with my right hand while my left hand held the cell phone up to my ear
or someone might have been seriously injured. I did have to put RDean
momentarily on hold a couple of times while I released fish back to
the water but he probably didn't notice.

--Steve

You should have declined the call and blocked all further ones.

I've never received a call from RDean, but if I ever do he'll get an earful.

Good to know, thanks....if I ever find myself wishing to hear Cole
Porter, Judy Garland, or another of you boys' "standards," er, "sung"
with a nasally and lispily effeminate flair by the Marlboro Girl, you'll
be the first one I call...

HTH,
R
....fair's fair, though, Cow Patty - I'll bet your version of "Love For
Sale" really knocks 'em out on Beefcake in Brown Gravy Night down at The
Real He-Man Disco Grille there in good ol' Ketchem, Jr....

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Wolfgang typed:
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I, however, am MORE important. I ALWAYS leave my cell phone
on.....wherever I am.....and no dares to call and disturb me.....EVER!

Ahem.
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Tim J." wrote in message
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Wolfgang typed:
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I, however, am MORE important. I ALWAYS leave my cell phone
on.....wherever I am.....and no dares to call and disturb me.....EVER!

Ahem.

Huh?



Oh.

Wolfgang
:(

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"JT" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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The "guy/gal working for a living" are simply the largest sub-set of the
larger class of consumers. Consumers, you will doubtless be surprised
to learn, pay for EVERYTHING. The precise route the money takes in its
endless circulation may be of interest for any number of reasons, but
whether the feds or the insurance companies get a larger chunk of the
bits that go to health care on its way round and round is irrelevant in
and of itself. The real question is who makes more efficient use of it
en route.

That troubles me...

It should.....but not for the reasons you think.

What I think and my concerns are having our no-so efficient government
take over something as huge and complex as health care,

In which case, one shudders to speculate on what you might think about our
no-so efficient government take over something as huge and complex as,
say.....government.

"free" health care would need to be paid for through higher taxes or
spending cuts in other areas,

To be sure. So, are we to suppose that despite your keen insight into
efficiency and good governance, you can't of any areas in which spending
cuts might not be such a terrible idea? One would think that education
should come immediately to mind. After all, a lack thereof hasn't done
you any harm......right?

how flexibile would a government mandated system be,

That would depend to a great extent on what is mandated.

will people increase doctor visits,

Quite possibly. One would hope so.

medications,

Hard to say, but there is no good reason to suppose so.

etc...

Kind of vague.....impossible to evaluate with any hope of accuracy.

making the cost for health care much more than they currently are,

The conventional wisdom is that early detection and intervention
drastically reduces both the cost and necessary rigor or severity of
treatment. You should call the AMA and tell them that they've got it all
wrong.

will healthy people pay the burden for people that are not so healthy,

You mean like they do now and, to one degree or another, have always done
(you HAVE heard of insurance.......right?)? Yes.

transitioning to a universal health care,

Yes.

lost jobs, business closure,

I'll be generous and assume that means something......but you're going to
have to explain just what.

if spending is out of control

and it most certainly is.

there will be no turning back with a government run plan.

Once again, it would be most helpful if the words provided some clues as
to the intended meaning.

Wolfgang

It comes as no surprise that you can't carry on a civil conversation without
throwing cheap shots...

Carry on,
JT

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"JT" wrote in message
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It comes as no surprise that you can't carry on a civil conversation
without throwing cheap shots...

It comes as no surprise that you feel ill-informed, self-satisfied, canned
tripe is deserving of a civil response.

Carry on,

Bank on it.

Wolfgang