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Giles August 19th, 2009 03:53 AM

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On Aug 18, 1:44*am, DaveS wrote:
On Aug 17, 7:16*pm, Giles wrote:



You're pathetic.


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Really?


Yes.

And here I thought that I was the coolest thing since sliced
bread.


No, that's what you wished, not what you thought.

But at least you inspired me to paint a bit this evening.
Thanx.


Any fool can smear paint on a wall.....or conjure ancestors. What I'd
like to do is inspire you (or just about anyone else for that matter)
to think. Whattya think my chances are?

But the question remains: Would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a
kid? Yes? No? I don't know. Probably?


Well, that covers a large percentage of the possibilities.....and that
will pass for thoughtful just about anywhere in Usenet. Now, what to
you suppose the hidden message is in that last sentence?

As to raising kids and safety . . . I found teaching stuff like "don't
pick up a bottle and chug unknown ****" was more effective than trying
to idiot-proof the environment, but I will concede that situations
differ. My kids were big time risk takers. Mountain climbing, back
country skiing, fire fighting, anything you can do in the water that
surrounds an island or goes down a river, lots of freight train
riding, bumming in Europe, *slum living, etc.. So maybe I do tend to
discount the small ****.. But considering the stuff that's in most
garages, *basements, medicine cabinets, etc.., I wouldn't be fretting
about some diluted bleach solution in an old Dr. Pepper spray bottle.


Well.....gosh.

But hey, knock yourself out.


About what?

g.
who, small enough of mind and spirit, is nevertheless big enough to
admit that he can be wrong.....looks like davie IS yet another moron.

DaveS August 20th, 2009 12:10 AM

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On Aug 18, 7:53*pm, Giles wrote:

Any fool can smear paint on a wall.....or conjure ancestors. *What I'd
like to do is inspire you (or just about anyone else for that matter)
to think. *Whattya think my chances are?


Shows what you know about painting I don't claim to be a great
painter, and anyone can see some of my paintings on the net and decide
what they like or dislike. To even be a contender you need to study
and paint, paint paint. And that effort maybe gets you a handful of
good paintings. I have 3 out of over 250, and I don't know why one of
those is well liked. I am proud that I am painting, and have not given
up. How about you?

As to your sneer at ancestors and family. You bet I am proud of them.
especially the Snedekers who left their blood and corpses on most of
the battlefields and POW camps of the South to keep this country
together. It is not my fault you do not get it, So you probably could
not find Guadacanal, Okinawa, or Chosin on a map either.

But the question remains: Would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a
kid? Yes? No? I don't know. Probably?


Well, that covers a large percentage of the possibilities.....and that
will pass for thoughtful just about anywhere in Usenet. *Now, what to
you suppose the hidden message is in that last sentence?


Fight your inner squirrel dude, what "hidden message?"


As to raising kids and safety . . . I found teaching stuff like "don't
pick up a bottle and chug unknown ****" was more effective than trying
to idiot-proof the environment, but I will concede that situations
differ. SNIP
But hey, knock yourself out. About what?


It loosely translates as . . . "go ahead with your concerns/
approaches, its OK with me, but I am of a different persuasion." Might
be a regional thang, one of those Western bits like "skookum" (for
well put together), that isn't used round where you live. Beats me.


g.
who, small enough of mind and spirit, is nevertheless big enough to
admit that he can be wrong.....looks like davie IS yet another moron.


Oh I can admit I am wrong. I did the calculation you hissed. It showed
a possible concentration of the bleach solution in the bottle to be
much, much higher than the US or Euro drinking water standard. I then
asked for your calculation (as a check on mine), assuming that your
work gave you much more facility with these kinds of calculations than
did my experience. (Although I have actually managed a tiny water
district and have treated drinking water etc in that context.) Further
I asked, "Would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a kid? " You are mute
on these questions so far.

So through this exchange you have concluded that I am a pathetic
moron, a wall painting fool, and a conjurer of ancestors? Interesting.
My conclusion is that I was too quick to discount Calif Bill's
concerns for the safety of a child (his?). Further, that particularly
for toddlers and the very young, more safety proofing in the home is
appropriate.

But . . . in general my personal preference remains to teach kids
broad principles of self protection rather than to remove all
potentially dangerous substances and situations. Others may think
differently, thats OK by me. And the question remains: "Would a swig
or 2 at these levels kill a kid? "

Dave

David LaCourse August 21st, 2009 04:57 PM

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On 2009-08-18 02:44:14 -0400, DaveS said:

But hey, knock yourself out.


He will. Fear not, he will.



Giles August 23rd, 2009 03:59 AM

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On Aug 19, 6:10*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Aug 18, 7:53*pm, Giles wrote:

Any fool can smear paint on a wall.....or conjure ancestors. *What I'd
like to do is inspire you (or just about anyone else for that matter)
to think. *Whattya think my chances are?


Shows what you know about painting


It shows that I know that any fool can smear paint on a wall. Any
supposition on your part that it demonstrates anything more or less
than that is hardly surprising. Statements to the effect that it
demonstrates any more or less, unbolstered by as much as your own
belief, is standard Usenet fare and impresses no one any more than it
does yourself. Where does that leave you?

I don't claim to be a great painter,


Well, not overtly.....not always, anyway.

and anyone can see some of my paintings on the net and decide
what they like or dislike.


Anyone with access to the internet, perhaps. But then, why would
anyone bother? Is your reputation such that folks will jostle for
space and time on the few computer terminals available to the
underprivileged public at the Mauston, Wisconsin public library? Will
Starbucks flagging sales be revitalized when it becomes public
knowledge that your work can be viewed for little more than the cost
of a laptop, sundry software and a grande double espresso mocha latte
to be sipped with feigned relish while ensconced in free WiFi?

To even be a contender you need to study and paint, paint paint.


Actually, the first requisite for a would be contender is a
competition. For most erstwhile users, language is a double-edged
bitch.....it almost always reveals a lot less than they want it
to......and a whole lot more than they intend.

Hey, how do you get to Carnegie Hall?

And that effort maybe gets you a handful of good paintings.


How many walls is a handful?

I have 3 out of over 250,


Would it be impertinent to ask for the curicula vitae of the judges?

and I don't know why one of those is well liked.


Well, that puts you two up on me. I don't know why any of them is
well liked. For that matter, I have, thus far, only your
unsubstantiated suggestion that any of them is well liked. And,
frankly, the way this discussion is going thus far, that suggestion
doesn't carry all that much weight.

I am proud that I am painting, and have not given
up. How about you?


Me? I don't give a rat's ass.

As to your sneer at ancestors and family.


I did not sneer at anyone's acestors or family. I merely expressed,
once again, my perplexed amusement at your obsession.

You bet I am proud of them.


We suspected as much.

[cue DAR a cappela rendition of "Battle Hymn of the Republic"]

especially the Snedekers who left their blood and corpses on most of
the battlefields and POW camps of the South to keep this country
together.


[fade DAR etc....]


It is not my fault you do not get it,


In fact, I do get it. Hard as it may be for you to believe, I've done
the math and it turns out that I have just about exactly as many
ancestors as you have. Even more eldritch and surprising (maybe) just
about as many of them died doing one thing or another. Patriots,
traitors....heroes, cowards.....saints, scoundrels.....crusaders and
curmudgeons. Not a one of them, I'd wager, ever said, "Yep, I'm a no
good asshole, just like we all should be."

The simple truth is the notion that everyone should have something to
be proud of is a nearly universally accepted axiom. Nearly.
Personally, I've never experienced an overwhelming need for pride.
So, you're right.....I don't get it (paradox is perplexing, no?). I
mean, I do take a certain satisfaction from those occasions when I do
something well, but I really don't have time to dwell on it. But
extracting some sort of meaning or, worse, some profundity, from the
accident of being in the line of descent from someone or other who did
something or other leaves me entirely bemused. Fortunately, I have
always found my own bemusement to be amusing. Well, fortunately for
me, anyway. :)

So you probably could
not find Guadacanal, Okinawa, or Chosin on a map either.


In fact, I am an acknowledged adept at map reading. It's nothing to
be particularly proud of.....it's actually very easy with the
application of a very limited and easily learned set of skills. Most
people, it would seem, never bother to acquire those few simple
skills. This leaves them easily impressed. This also leaves them
proud.....if they have some perceived connection that they think
reflects well on them, whether in the eyes of others or only their
own.

In any case, I'm left wondering just how confident you are in this
latest assertion. Would you like to place a small friendly wager on
whether or not I can find Guadacanal [sic] (yeah, I got a shiny new
nickel says I can find it either way), Okinawa, or Chosin on a map?

But the question remains: Would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a
kid? Yes? No? I don't know. Probably?


Well, that covers a large percentage of the possibilities.....and that
will pass for thoughtful just about anywhere in Usenet. *Now, what to
you suppose the hidden message is in that last sentence?


Fight your inner squirrel dude, what "hidden message?"


Hidden message: Yes, you CAN pass for thoughtful just about anywhere
in Usenet. Feel big?

As to raising kids and safety . . . I found teaching stuff like "don't
pick up a bottle and chug unknown ****" was more effective than trying
to idiot-proof the environment, but I will concede that situations
differ. SNIP
But hey, knock yourself out. About what?


It loosely translates as . . . "go ahead with your concerns/
approaches, its OK with me, but I am of a different persuasion." Might
be a regional thang, one of those Western bits like "skookum" (for
well put together), that isn't used round where you live. Beats me.


O.k.

g.
who, small enough of mind and spirit, is nevertheless big enough to
admit that he can be wrong.....looks like davie IS yet another moron.


Oh I can admit I am wrong. I did the calculation you hissed.


Before or after I "hissed"? Or both?

It showed
a possible concentration of the bleach solution in the bottle to be
much, much higher than the US or Euro drinking water standard.


Possible? Maybe not exactly lemonade, then?

I then
asked for your calculation (as a check on mine), assuming that your
work gave you much more facility with these kinds of calculations than
did my experience. (Although I have actually managed a tiny water
district and have treated drinking water etc in that context.) Further
I asked, "Would a swig or 2 at these levels kill a kid? " You are mute
on these questions so far.


I didn't do any calculations. But then, I didn't make any assertions
that required data or statistical analysis for backup. What's more, I
distinctly remember indicating that I am a disinterested party by
virtue of the fact that I have no offspring who might benefit from
your formulation. As I believed was implicit in my request for your
calculations, I was simply curious as to how you arrived at your
conclusion. However, as an ordinarily conscientious citizen I must
say that in light of what's taken place in this exchange your latest
revelation, in the parenthetical comment above, leaves me a bit
concerned about whether or not you should be allowed to roam about at
will.

So through this exchange you have concluded that I am a pathetic
moron, a wall painting fool, and a conjurer of ancestors?


No, merely a low grade public menace. The conjurer of ancestors is a
matter of extensive public record. Moron is simply a commonly
understood shorthand. Pathetic?......what need one say? And, as I
said, any fool can paint a wall......who you are and what you
do......well, I haven't been observing closely (outside of the present
context), have you?

Interesting.


Ainna?

My conclusion is that I was too quick to discount Calif Bill's
concerns for the safety of a child (his?).


I wouldn't be too concerned about that if I were you. He's an
imbecile. My observations suggest that they tend to breed true. Not
much that you or I can do about it.

Further, that particularly
for toddlers and the very young, more safety proofing in the home is
appropriate.


More TV, intravenous feeding, catheters.....and perhaps closer
monitoring of water treatment credentials.

But . . . in general my personal preference remains to teach kids
broad principles of self protection rather than to remove all
potentially dangerous substances and situations.


"ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger when you point the rifle at
your little sister!" If I've said it once, I've said it a million
times!

Others may think differently,


True, that.

thats OK by me.


Yeah, me too.

And the question remains: "Would a swig
or 2 at these levels kill a kid? "


And therein lies the beauty of clinical (or do it yourself, at home)
trials.

g.

Giles August 23rd, 2009 03:59 AM

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On Aug 21, 10:57*am, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-08-18 02:44:14 -0400, DaveS said:

But hey, knock yourself out.


He will. *Fear not, *he will.


Moron.

Fat old moron.

g.

Tom Littleton August 23rd, 2009 01:52 PM

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"Giles" wrote in message
...
I wouldn't be too concerned about that if I were you. He's(Bill, in this
case...edit) an
imbecile. My observations suggest that they tend to breed true. Not
much that you or I can do about it.


It must truly suck, Wolfgang, to have reached a point in life where one is
so quick to call others 'imbeciles', 'morons' or the like, when they merely
disagree with you.
To use this thread as an example, Bill was merely stating
a concern(I won't get into the exact physiological risk levels of sodium
hypochlorite solutions, having seen you all beat it near to death). I'm left
wondering who the true
'imbecile' is.....the guy with a specific concern, or the one
who trots out the same childishly dismissive blather aimed at the same folks
with whom he has disagreed for a decade or more.
Tom



Bill Grey August 23rd, 2009 05:31 PM

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In message
,
Giles writes
"ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger when you point the rifle at
your little sister!" If I've said it once, I've said it a million
times!


NEVER point the rifle at your little sister makes a lot more sense!
--
Bill Grey


David LaCourse August 23rd, 2009 07:07 PM

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On 2009-08-22 22:59:51 -0400, Giles said:

On Aug 21, 10:57*am, David LaCourse wrote:
On 2009-08-18 02:44:14 -0400, DaveS said:

But hey, knock yourself out.


He will. *Fear not, *he will.


Moron.

Fat old moron.

g.


d;o)

You never fail to amuse.

d;o)



Giles August 25th, 2009 02:26 AM

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On Aug 23, 7:52*am, "Tom Littleton" wrote:
"Giles" wrote in message

...
I wouldn't be too concerned about that if I were you. *He's(Bill, in this
case...edit) an
imbecile. *My observations suggest that they tend to breed true. *Not
much that you or I can do about it.

It must truly suck, Wolfgang, to have reached a point in life where one is
so quick to call others 'imbeciles', 'morons' or the like, when they merely
disagree with you.


Oh, I don't know......life has it's ups and downs, to be sure, but
that has always been the case.....and I've never encountered any
reason to suppose that it might be otherwise. All in all, it's been a
pretty good ride so far.

To use this thread as an example, Bill was merely stating
a concern


I guess you've been away for a while. This is billy's first
contribution to these pages.

(I won't get into the exact physiological risk levels of sodium
hypochlorite solutions, having seen you all beat it near to death).


Too bad. I suspect you'd have something useful to say on the subject.

I'm left
wondering who the true
'imbecile' is.....the guy with a specific concern, or the one
who trots out the same childishly dismissive blather aimed at the same folks
with whom he has disagreed for a decade or more.


There are people with whom I disagree frequently, strenuously and
vociferously, and who yet court my company, I wonder what's wrong
with them, don't you?

g.

Giles August 25th, 2009 02:27 AM

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On Aug 23, 11:31*am, Bill Grey wrote:
In message
,
Giles writes

"ALWAYS keep your finger off the trigger when you point the rifle at
your little sister!" *If I've said it once, I've said it a million
times!


NEVER point the rifle at your little sister makes a lot more sense!


Looks that way to me too.....but then, I guess neither of us has ever
managed a municipal water supply.

g.


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