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John Hightower August 10th, 2004 09:46 PM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 

"Peter Charles" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:23:03 -0600, "John Hightower"
wrote:



There's enough size variation within the species to probably account
for the difference you saw.

Peter

could very well be. One thing I did pick up on was that the immature bird
had a black beak- the Bald Eagle website I googled up mentions that Bald
Eagle eaglets have a black beak- the website doesn't say about juvenile
Golden Eagles. I did not notice if the juvenille had leg feathers. Maybe the
juvenile was female-which tend to be larger than the males, and the attacker
was dad- don't know. I do remember being very impressed with how big the
bird was- especially in direct comparison with the attacking bird.

jh



John Hightower August 10th, 2004 09:46 PM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 

"Peter Charles" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:23:03 -0600, "John Hightower"
wrote:



There's enough size variation within the species to probably account
for the difference you saw.

Peter

could very well be. One thing I did pick up on was that the immature bird
had a black beak- the Bald Eagle website I googled up mentions that Bald
Eagle eaglets have a black beak- the website doesn't say about juvenile
Golden Eagles. I did not notice if the juvenille had leg feathers. Maybe the
juvenile was female-which tend to be larger than the males, and the attacker
was dad- don't know. I do remember being very impressed with how big the
bird was- especially in direct comparison with the attacking bird.

jh



[email protected] August 10th, 2004 10:48 PM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:22:59 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:51:41 -0500, "Wolfgang"

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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:56:38 -0500, "Wolfgang"
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Sumribus omnititicus et facit ignorarium....

I don't know what that means. Would you care to translate?

Certainly - it means, generally, the same thing as "Le
creusette/crossitte monteffe blantuer de la ventrois
detredeur"...well,
not absolutely exactly, of course, but close enough for

government
work,
IAC....

And in English?


It doesn't translate very well - do you speak or understand, even
conversationally, Monegasque? You don't have to be _fluent_. If

not,
how about Euskara?



Yeah, that's what I thought.


Oh, come now...you _thought_, or Francis got all dolled up in a
Frederick's nightie and read it from a birdy book to you?

Maybe some day you'll find something
you're good at. Don't hold your breath though.


Don't need to...already got a hat trick...and that's enough for me.


Peter Charles August 10th, 2004 10:58 PM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:46:14 -0600, "John Hightower"
wrote:


"Peter Charles" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:23:03 -0600, "John Hightower"
wrote:



There's enough size variation within the species to probably account
for the difference you saw.

Peter

could very well be. One thing I did pick up on was that the immature bird
had a black beak- the Bald Eagle website I googled up mentions that Bald
Eagle eaglets have a black beak- the website doesn't say about juvenile
Golden Eagles. I did not notice if the juvenille had leg feathers. Maybe the
juvenile was female-which tend to be larger than the males, and the attacker
was dad- don't know. I do remember being very impressed with how big the
bird was- especially in direct comparison with the attacking bird.

jh

There's significant sexually dimorphism in most raptors but I don't
know how pronounced it is in balds -- maybe one of the birders here
can pitch in. In terms of territorial defence though, I think the
birds usually attack their own gender.



Peter

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Frank Church August 11th, 2004 12:16 AM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 
Scott Seidman wrote in
. 1.4:

"John Hightower" wrote in
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I googled up this website yesterday
http://www.baldeagleinfo.com/index.html ; it points out that there are
two basic species of baldies- the southern bald and the northern bald-
the dividing line is about the 40th parallel.


What is the air speed of a coconut-laden southern bald eagle?

Scott


....more important, what is the stall speed of said bald eagle? :-)

Frank Church
...oncet I couldn't spel pilot, now I are one.

Frank Church August 11th, 2004 01:04 AM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 
William Claspy wrote in
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Still have clear memories of watching a bald eagle
take trout from the Sparrow Rapids of the Ontonogan.... That's one
fine bird, and one fine piece of trout water.


.....I may have told this story before here, can't remember, but at least
the newbies might enjoy it.
It was a dark and stormy nite..uh, wait a minute, wrong story.

One fine morning sitting in camp sipping a cup of coffee and admiring the
Kennebec R. with the early morning sun lighting it up, my brother and I
observed a mama duck and her babies heading out from shore to the middle of
the river. Shortly thereafter a bald eagle launched out of a tree on the
far side of the river (with plenty of airspeed I might add) and made for
mama and the kids. This bird was followed immediately by a 2nd eagle. They
took turns making diving passes at the ducklings, who, when the eagles were
very close, all dove underwater as if pulled down by a single string. (and
all bobbed up again after danger had passed) Mama duck set up quite a
racket on each pass and before long other ducks flew in from several
directions, low over the water and surrounded the babies. The eagles gave
up after that and returned to their roosts. Damndest thing I ever saw and
just made the whole day for us.

Frank Church

Wolfgang August 11th, 2004 01:32 AM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:22:59 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:51:41 -0500, "Wolfgang"

wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:56:38 -0500, "Wolfgang"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .

Sumribus omnititicus et facit ignorarium....

I don't know what that means. Would you care to translate?

Certainly - it means, generally, the same thing as "Le
creusette/crossitte monteffe blantuer de la ventrois
detredeur"...well,
not absolutely exactly, of course, but close enough for

government
work,
IAC....

And in English?

It doesn't translate very well - do you speak or understand, even
conversationally, Monegasque? You don't have to be _fluent_. If

not,
how about Euskara?



Yeah, that's what I thought.


Oh, come now...you _thought_, or Francis got all dolled up in a
Frederick's nightie and read it from a birdy book to you?

Maybe some day you'll find something
you're good at. Don't hold your breath though.


Don't need to...already got a hat trick...and that's enough for me.


Your daddy was right, I think......he should have kept his pants zipped.

Wolfgang



daytripper August 11th, 2004 02:59 AM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:23:03 -0600, "John Hightower"
wrote:

[snipped]

When the Golden took off after his spat with the Bald- he launched and flew
upriver, banked across the river just in front of the boat, and headed
downriver- I'll bet he took about 400 or more yards to gain tree top height-
looked like a fully loaded B 52 trying to get off the ground.
jh


Yes! We had essentially the same thing happen yesterday - we had gone
exploring off the main impound and when we came flying back out at full
throttle the goldie that had been setting on the point took off down stream
and paced us for a looong way before he'd gained enough altitude to swing back
over the trees lining the bank.

Speaking of cool boidies: we have a neat half-dozen wild turkeys hanging
around our place in Franconia. While I was off fishing the SO watched them
march out of the woods, across the yard and over the road like they owned the
place. I've got a nice little collection of turkey quills going...

/daytripper (who'll never have to actually pay for a muddler ever again ;-)

daytripper August 11th, 2004 02:59 AM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:23:03 -0600, "John Hightower"
wrote:

[snipped]

When the Golden took off after his spat with the Bald- he launched and flew
upriver, banked across the river just in front of the boat, and headed
downriver- I'll bet he took about 400 or more yards to gain tree top height-
looked like a fully loaded B 52 trying to get off the ground.
jh


Yes! We had essentially the same thing happen yesterday - we had gone
exploring off the main impound and when we came flying back out at full
throttle the goldie that had been setting on the point took off down stream
and paced us for a looong way before he'd gained enough altitude to swing back
over the trees lining the bank.

Speaking of cool boidies: we have a neat half-dozen wild turkeys hanging
around our place in Franconia. While I was off fishing the SO watched them
march out of the woods, across the yard and over the road like they owned the
place. I've got a nice little collection of turkey quills going...

/daytripper (who'll never have to actually pay for a muddler ever again ;-)

rw August 11th, 2004 03:00 AM

interesting event observed during a float trip
 
John Hightower wrote:

I do remember being very impressed with how big the
bird was- especially in direct comparison with the attacking bird.


Could it have been a Turkey Vulture?

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