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"George Adams" wrote in message
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From: Ken Fortenberry

As to the question at hand, you're wrong. Amadou removes the water
AND the slime and using an Amadou prepares the fly for the next
application of Frog Fanny better than anything I've ever used.
And that includes a cotton T-shirt, a piece of auto chamois, and
a piece of Cabela's Samadou.

Never used Amadou. I've used Samadou and chamois, and, IMO, the chamois is
cheaper and works better than Samadou. I used to try to use a fleece
patch,
which didn't work at all.

A fleece patch....or, at least, the original....is simply raw wool on the
tanned skin. Wool, it should come as no surprise, is an extremely poor
material for absorbing water. Waterlogged sheep are no good to themselves
or anyone else. As a matter of fact, you'd do better shearing off the hair
and using the tanned hide........in essence, what you'd have is chamois.

The way I treat a slimed fly is as follows:

Make a couple of short casts away from where the fish are, slapping the
fly
sharply on the surface.

I don't doubt that this method works, but it seems to me it would startle a
lot of fish. I usually just let it drag in the current downstream for a
bit.

Dry the fly with the chamois.

Or a piece of weel worn cotton fabric......if one is available. :)

Apply Frog's Fanny (Or Cab-O-Sil)

This procedure works quite well, even with the ostrich herl and cdc midge
patterns I have been using recently.

I don't use much ostrich herl, and I've never tried cdc. Typically, I'll
grease a fly up real good with Albolene and then, after it's been slimed or
waterlogged, I dry it thoroughly with a piece of well worn cotton fabric,
chamois or......if nothing better is available.....amadou. Then, and only
then, I break out the FF.

Wolfgang

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
...
Uh huh, you said that already. You're still wrong.

O.k., so how does amadou work this incredible magic?

Beats hell out of me.

Yeah, but what don't?

I don't pretend to be some sort of
amateur chemist with a penchant for pretentious jargon
and a pre-fab crackpot explanation.

Ah, then it's for eal!

All I know is that
an Amadou removes water and trout slime from fur and
feathers so that the next application of Frog Fanny is
as effective as the previous application.

You know a great deal less than you think you do......as everyone here
knows.

You can dispute this until you're blue in the face, but
I know that it's true.

You know a great deal less than you think you do.

... Not as lucrative as Unix Sys Admin but it keeps
me in Budweiser and Amadou.

$450.00 a month, huh? Wow, you're better than even YOU thought!

You GROSSLY underestimate my monthly Budweiser bill. ;-)

Judging by what we've all seen here and what a good few of us have seen in
person, a six pack would be enough to get you ****ed in any frat house in
the country. You must use an awful lot of amadou.

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Ah, then it's for eal!

Hm......

Should have been "real". I can understand why spellcheckers don't quite
understand exactly what it is one is trying to say, but it often seems that
they miss a lot of stuff that they shouldn't. "Eal", for God's sake?
:(

Wolfgang
who hastens to add that the damned thing caught it THIS time!

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"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote...
"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Tim J. wrote:

The minimum order is three sheets at $50.25 CHF + $30 CHF for
shipping (about
$62 USD total). I've never used the stuff before, mainly because
of the $20
Orvis price for a tiny patch you mention in another post. If 1/3
of a sheet is a
year or greater supply, this would be about a 10 year supply. How
long does this
stuff keep its properties?

Amadou starts out very smooth on both sides. Eventually, as you use
it,
it starts to shred. It works better smooth, but will continue to
work
until it just falls apart. I've kept ragged pieces as small as a
quarter.
To answer your question, if you keep it in the package and don't use
it, I assume it will keep its properties in perpetuity, if you use
it
it will eventually fall apart. I get a season or more out of a piece
that measures about 2"X4".

Amadou is simply a fungus. Leave it in the package and it will
eventually oxidize and crumble.

It's the "eventually" part I'd like to have clarified.

Considerably less than in "perpetuity". How long it will last depends on
storage conditions. Drier is better. An oxygen free atmosphere is better
yet. Under normal conditions.....lying somewhere in the back of a drawer or
closet.....it's probably o.k. for a few years.

A piece of chamois works as well, is
a lot cheaper and much more readily available. The sleeve of a well
worn cotton shirt is better in every respect......except, of course,
for cachet among elitist idiots.

All that said, I have no way of making that comparison without trying the
amadou
myself.

Try it. It's good stuff.

Okay, but if it isn't any better than a chamois or a shirt sleeve, you owe me
$20. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj

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"Tim J." wrote in message
news:nUvWc.171885$8_6.87065@attbi_s04...

"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote...
"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote...
Tim J. wrote:

The minimum order is three sheets at $50.25 CHF + $30 CHF for
shipping (about
$62 USD total). I've never used the stuff before, mainly because
of the $20
Orvis price for a tiny patch you mention in another post. If 1/3
of a sheet is a
year or greater supply, this would be about a 10 year supply.
How
long does this
stuff keep its properties?

Amadou starts out very smooth on both sides. Eventually, as you
use
it,
it starts to shred. It works better smooth, but will continue to
work
until it just falls apart. I've kept ragged pieces as small as a
quarter.
To answer your question, if you keep it in the package and don't
use
it, I assume it will keep its properties in perpetuity, if you use
it
it will eventually fall apart. I get a season or more out of a
piece
that measures about 2"X4".

Amadou is simply a fungus. Leave it in the package and it will
eventually oxidize and crumble.

It's the "eventually" part I'd like to have clarified.

Considerably less than in "perpetuity". How long it will last depends
on
storage conditions. Drier is better. An oxygen free atmosphere is
better
yet. Under normal conditions.....lying somewhere in the back of a
drawer or
closet.....it's probably o.k. for a few years.

A piece of chamois works as well, is
a lot cheaper and much more readily available. The sleeve of a well
worn cotton shirt is better in every respect......except, of course,
for cachet among elitist idiots.

All that said, I have no way of making that comparison without trying
the
amadou
myself.

Try it. It's good stuff.

Okay, but if it isn't any better than a chamois or a shirt sleeve, you owe
me
$20. ;-)

Well, it's not......and, o.k. :)

Wolfgang
you know where to send the snail mail address.

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Wolfgang wrote:

......as everyone here
knows.
...
Judging by what we've all seen here and what a good few of us ...

Just who is this "everyone," and "we," and "us" you keep talking
about ? Why don't you ever deliver your nasty insults and take
personal responsibilty for them ?

Rhetorical question, we all know the answer to that one. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Fly Floatant
 

George Adams wrote:
From: Ken Fortenberry

As to the question at hand, you're wrong. Amadou removes the water
AND the slime and using an Amadou prepares the fly for the next
application of Frog Fanny better than anything I've ever used.
And that includes a cotton T-shirt, a piece of auto chamois, and
a piece of Cabela's Samadou.

Never used Amadou. ...

So you must be the guy Wolfie is talking about when he says "we".

;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
m...
Wolfgang wrote:

......as everyone here
knows.
...
Judging by what we've all seen here and what a good few of us ...

Just who is this "everyone," and "we," and "us" you keep talking
about ?

"Everyone", in this instance, is everyone reading ROFF. "We" is everyone
who reads ROFF. "Us" includes those of us who have met you.

Why don't you ever deliver your nasty insults and take
personal responsibilty for them ?

Did I say something that suggests to you that someone else might claim or be
assigned credit for what I put forth here?

Rhetorical question, we all know the answer to that one. ;-)

Oh my, what a clever little device. And just who do you think you've fooled
this time? Well, there's me, Mark, Jennifer, Jeff, and Wayno at
least.......right?

Wolfgang
you're a pal and a confidant...

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Wolfgang wrote:
...
Oh my, what a clever little device. And just who do you think you've fooled
this time? ...

Time for me to end my participation in this thread gone bad and remind
you that you're probably gonna want to cover your keyboard in Saran Wrap.
You're just jacking off with your right hand while posting to roff with
your left at this point and fly floatant is but a distant memory.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
I no longer use floatant at all, I use Frog Fanny and an Amadou.
I'm still using the Frog Fanny I bought two years ago but I'm
down to my last Amadou. I've not been able to find genuine Amadou
here in the states. The fly shops sell a synthetic version called
Samadou that doesn't work nearly as well.

Me too. The local fly shops still have amadou in stock, but I find
myself carrying only one piece of it. After a couple of hours of good
catching, the amadou is pretty soaked and I usually resort to using my
shirttail.

Charlie,
planning to get rich marketing amadou shirts.