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Jeff Miller October 31st, 2004 11:47 AM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
we've got mountain streams, lowland rivers, sounds, and seashore.
what's your pleasure?

jeff

Wayne Knight wrote:
"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:IUNgd.58087$UA.52695@lakeread08...

perhaps we'll need to go
fishin sometime soon...you bring the boo and the graphite, and we'll
engage in a bit of therapy. g


We should do that sometime soon.



Jeff Miller October 31st, 2004 11:47 AM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
we've got mountain streams, lowland rivers, sounds, and seashore.
what's your pleasure?

jeff

Wayne Knight wrote:
"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:IUNgd.58087$UA.52695@lakeread08...

perhaps we'll need to go
fishin sometime soon...you bring the boo and the graphite, and we'll
engage in a bit of therapy. g


We should do that sometime soon.



Jeff Miller October 31st, 2004 11:47 AM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
we've got mountain streams, lowland rivers, sounds, and seashore.
what's your pleasure?

jeff

Wayne Knight wrote:
"Jeff Miller" wrote in message
news:IUNgd.58087$UA.52695@lakeread08...

perhaps we'll need to go
fishin sometime soon...you bring the boo and the graphite, and we'll
engage in a bit of therapy. g


We should do that sometime soon.



Frank Reid October 31st, 2004 11:56 AM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 

Stupid. Just plain stupid. The difference is that fly fishing isn't
about
winning.......well, not for most of us anyway.


Bull****, he who dies with the most toys.... Mr Knight is well ahead of
most of the pack.

--
Frank Reid
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Frank Reid October 31st, 2004 11:56 AM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 

Stupid. Just plain stupid. The difference is that fly fishing isn't
about
winning.......well, not for most of us anyway.


Bull****, he who dies with the most toys.... Mr Knight is well ahead of
most of the pack.

--
Frank Reid
Reverse email to reply



Jeff Miller October 31st, 2004 12:28 PM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
seems to me your test here is narrowly-focused on utility. what works
best. knowing you in passing though, i believe you to have an
appreciation of art. bamboo rods surely ain't mystical, but their
history and creation does give them a "soulful" quality for anyone who
appreciates individual craftsmanship - and i think you do. it's not a
crock to esteem and value such things, or even to prefer to utilize
them. it may be a "crock" if one pegs the value only on utility...
but, if that were the case, you'd be chunkin a wal-mart spinning rod
into silver creek wouldn't you?

once, my dad, us marine corps master/gunnery sargeant robert l. miller,
ordered me to sweep out the garage. he gave me an old kitchen broom to
do the job. when he left me in the garage, i immediately discarded the
old broom and located the huge push broom my grandfather used in his
sweeping and i then used it. sgt miller, on his return, angrily chided
me for "always looking for the easy way". i hated him and his comment
then, thinking it a "crock"...but, you know, he mighta had a point.

rlstf (still lookin for the easy way, and, despite le frotteur's
attempts at fomenting disharmony, where i post has *nothing* to do with
who i value as a friend)



rw wrote:


I prefer to use equipment that performs well, requires little
maintenance, and is economical. If someone wants to delude themselves
about the mystical, soulful superiority of their bamboo flyrod, that
they recently dropped a wheelbarrow of bucks on, and that they love to
fondle in the firelight below the mantle holding their other antiques,
that's fine with me, but it's a crock.


Jeff Miller October 31st, 2004 12:28 PM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
seems to me your test here is narrowly-focused on utility. what works
best. knowing you in passing though, i believe you to have an
appreciation of art. bamboo rods surely ain't mystical, but their
history and creation does give them a "soulful" quality for anyone who
appreciates individual craftsmanship - and i think you do. it's not a
crock to esteem and value such things, or even to prefer to utilize
them. it may be a "crock" if one pegs the value only on utility...
but, if that were the case, you'd be chunkin a wal-mart spinning rod
into silver creek wouldn't you?

once, my dad, us marine corps master/gunnery sargeant robert l. miller,
ordered me to sweep out the garage. he gave me an old kitchen broom to
do the job. when he left me in the garage, i immediately discarded the
old broom and located the huge push broom my grandfather used in his
sweeping and i then used it. sgt miller, on his return, angrily chided
me for "always looking for the easy way". i hated him and his comment
then, thinking it a "crock"...but, you know, he mighta had a point.

rlstf (still lookin for the easy way, and, despite le frotteur's
attempts at fomenting disharmony, where i post has *nothing* to do with
who i value as a friend)



rw wrote:


I prefer to use equipment that performs well, requires little
maintenance, and is economical. If someone wants to delude themselves
about the mystical, soulful superiority of their bamboo flyrod, that
they recently dropped a wheelbarrow of bucks on, and that they love to
fondle in the firelight below the mantle holding their other antiques,
that's fine with me, but it's a crock.


Tom Littleton October 31st, 2004 12:33 PM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
JR writes:
Ha ha ha! I have broken WAY more graphite rods than cane. Also, when
I've broken a cane rod, I have always known why (put a bit too much
shoulder to a fish; caught the tip on a branch at the moment of netting,
etc.). I have never had a cane rod snap for no apparent reason,


I'm not picking on JR, as others have made similar sets of remarks...but, I am
really confused. In roughly 30 years of fly fishing, with an assortment of
rods, I have broken exactly two. One, I closed a garage door on and the other I
stepped on in a drunken moment in a boat. Never, in the course of being on a
stream, has any rod ever broken on me. I don't understand how or why one
should. I do fish graphites, with the exception of one little fiberglass I own,
and have done very little fishing with bamboo,although I can see the latter as
being inherently a bit more fragile in some ways than the synthetics, in other
ways more resilient. It just seems some folks break a lot of rods and I cannot
fathom why.
Tom

Tom Littleton October 31st, 2004 12:33 PM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
JR writes:
Ha ha ha! I have broken WAY more graphite rods than cane. Also, when
I've broken a cane rod, I have always known why (put a bit too much
shoulder to a fish; caught the tip on a branch at the moment of netting,
etc.). I have never had a cane rod snap for no apparent reason,


I'm not picking on JR, as others have made similar sets of remarks...but, I am
really confused. In roughly 30 years of fly fishing, with an assortment of
rods, I have broken exactly two. One, I closed a garage door on and the other I
stepped on in a drunken moment in a boat. Never, in the course of being on a
stream, has any rod ever broken on me. I don't understand how or why one
should. I do fish graphites, with the exception of one little fiberglass I own,
and have done very little fishing with bamboo,although I can see the latter as
being inherently a bit more fragile in some ways than the synthetics, in other
ways more resilient. It just seems some folks break a lot of rods and I cannot
fathom why.
Tom

rw October 31st, 2004 01:01 PM

Save the Environment Use Bamboo!
 
JR wrote:
rw wrote:

Good for you. I think it's great that you love fishing with bamboo, JR.
Enjoy.



I don't. Why are you so intent on showing me the error of my ways?



I don't think there's any error in your preferring graphite. As you say,
good for you. You seem intent, however, on claiming at every opportunity
that bamboo rods are inherently inferior.


Every opportunity? Are you joking? You've been asking me DIRECT
QUESTIONS about why I dislike fishing with bamboo rods. What am I
supposed to do? Ignore you?

Wayne Knight baited me in a good-natured, joking way, and I replied in kind.

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