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Bill Kiene wrote:

If and when our Muslim friends are successful in getting a nuclear bomb off
in a major US city it will all take care of it's self.

Automatic WWIII

--
Bill Kiene


I hope such a thing never happens , but should it ............
I don`t think it will be WW111 ...... The US has just alienated
itself from the rest of the world . they`ll have to fight this one
their own J

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Myron writes:

And Liberal is not a swear word.


Oh, I agree. You can not, however, use it to describe today's Democrat
without taking a lot of crap over it. Hence Kerry's "I don't like labels."
Today's liberal in the Dem Party is not the liberal that I witnessed in JFK or
Truman or Muskie, but rather more of a socialist. My family voted for Truman,
and I voted for JFK. Most liberals have taken God out of the equation ( I know,
I know, there is no god) and many people are now sensing that. The
Trumans/JFKs/Muskys all had God in their equations.

Oh, well. It was a good (or terrible) race and I am very glad it is over. I
went to bed last night at 10 not really shiving a git who won, knowing that
whoever it is, we will survive.

Dave

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Myron writes:

And Liberal is not a swear word.


Oh, I agree. You can not, however, use it to describe today's Democrat
without taking a lot of crap over it. Hence Kerry's "I don't like labels."
Today's liberal in the Dem Party is not the liberal that I witnessed in JFK or
Truman or Muskie, but rather more of a socialist. My family voted for Truman,
and I voted for JFK. Most liberals have taken God out of the equation ( I know,
I know, there is no god) and many people are now sensing that. The
Trumans/JFKs/Muskys all had God in their equations.

Oh, well. It was a good (or terrible) race and I am very glad it is over. I
went to bed last night at 10 not really shiving a git who won, knowing that
whoever it is, we will survive.

Dave

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Wolfgang wrote:
"philski" wrote in message
...

Wolfgang wrote:


"philski" wrote in message
...



...my wife takes 15 necessary meds - costing us in excess of
300.00 w/ copay.


Hell, that ain't so bad. I know people who pay more than that

EVERY

YEAR!



I want the
government out of my life.


So, you've notified your local fire department that they are

never,

under ANY circumstances, to enter onto your property?



Just My .02 cents worth.


Where shall we send the change?

Wolfgang



I was thinking primarily along the lines of the Patriot Act - along

with

Ashcroft (a worthless appointee).

I work at the Boise Airport for the government (Homeland Security)

as an

engineer - I don't want to bite the hand that feeds me....


Sounds like you do. But you're afraid. Nevertheless, you did. And
I'll bet a shiny new nickel that the Boise Fire Department is a
governmental agency. And hey, how about that Socialist Security, huh?

Wolfgang
still holding that change.


Well, I am not afraid as you put it. I like my freedoms. And infringing
on my freedoms is not something I specifically cherish. Considering my
statement that I want the government removed from my life - you and I
both know that that is an impossibility in today's society. I made the
statement not to be taken literally as you did. I worked for the gov for
years. I do know the difference. Its just that I want them at arm's
length. I do pay taxes for certain services and those, although are
government entities, do not, in my opinion, have to have their every
finger on my pulse so-to-speak. You surely get my drift. I think the
Patriot Act is too far reaching. There are already laws on the books for
most of the criminal and/or terrorist activities in the U.S. I don't
share the abundance of paranoia that I see in the GOP.

As far as Social Security is concerned, I think I could have done a lot
better had I been able to invest those same monies in simple savings
accounts. But I have to pay into it whether I like it or not. Each
paycheck I receive has a noted deduction for the upkeep of that
entitlement. It used to have it's own fund and account. But it was
raided by Congress and put into the General Fund. So, I will collect "my
share" someday, but until then, I guess I'll have to put up with the tax
that it is.

BTW - do you think GW will be giving us another tax refund - I could use
another 600.00 dollar check just before Christmas!

Philski

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Wolfgang wrote:
"philski" wrote in message
...

Wolfgang wrote:


"philski" wrote in message
...



...my wife takes 15 necessary meds - costing us in excess of
300.00 w/ copay.


Hell, that ain't so bad. I know people who pay more than that

EVERY

YEAR!



I want the
government out of my life.


So, you've notified your local fire department that they are

never,

under ANY circumstances, to enter onto your property?



Just My .02 cents worth.


Where shall we send the change?

Wolfgang



I was thinking primarily along the lines of the Patriot Act - along

with

Ashcroft (a worthless appointee).

I work at the Boise Airport for the government (Homeland Security)

as an

engineer - I don't want to bite the hand that feeds me....


Sounds like you do. But you're afraid. Nevertheless, you did. And
I'll bet a shiny new nickel that the Boise Fire Department is a
governmental agency. And hey, how about that Socialist Security, huh?

Wolfgang
still holding that change.


Well, I am not afraid as you put it. I like my freedoms. And infringing
on my freedoms is not something I specifically cherish. Considering my
statement that I want the government removed from my life - you and I
both know that that is an impossibility in today's society. I made the
statement not to be taken literally as you did. I worked for the gov for
years. I do know the difference. Its just that I want them at arm's
length. I do pay taxes for certain services and those, although are
government entities, do not, in my opinion, have to have their every
finger on my pulse so-to-speak. You surely get my drift. I think the
Patriot Act is too far reaching. There are already laws on the books for
most of the criminal and/or terrorist activities in the U.S. I don't
share the abundance of paranoia that I see in the GOP.

As far as Social Security is concerned, I think I could have done a lot
better had I been able to invest those same monies in simple savings
accounts. But I have to pay into it whether I like it or not. Each
paycheck I receive has a noted deduction for the upkeep of that
entitlement. It used to have it's own fund and account. But it was
raided by Congress and put into the General Fund. So, I will collect "my
share" someday, but until then, I guess I'll have to put up with the tax
that it is.

BTW - do you think GW will be giving us another tax refund - I could use
another 600.00 dollar check just before Christmas!

Philski

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Chuck Wise wrote:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 13:57:09 -0700, philski
wrote:


I agree with your view Ken. I think if the Dems ever want to get ahead
in the race for the White House, they need to dump the Gay Agenda. They
have more than they can deal with with "right to life". I don't think
there are enough gay votes (just my opinion) to sway a national vote one
way or the other. The dems need to " Steer Clear of the Queers" (an old
Idaho axiom)



Dammit, I swore I wasn't gonna do this. But my dander's up again.

Eleven states just voted to deny entry into the institution of
marriage to US Citizens based solely on their sexual orientation, and
YOU think GAYS have an "agenda"?

What would that be, exactly? Are they guilty of trying to "secure the
blessings of liberty to themselves..."? Damn that constitution.

As a devout and practicing heterosexual, I can't begin to understand
why it's any of my business whatsoever - or the business of the
government - what two or more consenting adults do in the privacy of
their own homes and relationships.

Heterosexuals have managed to make a complete mockery and debacle of
the institution of marriage: I've never seen it demonstrated that
homosexuals could possibly do worse.

But if two men or women love each other and want to get married and
share in the legal benefits, pitfalls, and sacrifice of "marital
bliss", and can find a willing church or justice of the peace, I say
"God Bless 'Em" and "God Help 'Em".

Chuck
Chuck,
I don't disagree with what you say. I just think that it costs the
Democrats votes each and every time there is a national election. I too
don't care if they are married, church leaders or anything else for that
matter. I grew up with a brother that was gay. I think he was destined
to be gay in his life. It wasn't a choice in his part. Dave died of AIDS
in San Francisco in 1983. I have first-hand knowledge of the gay
community. I visited my brother and his lover in the city many times. We
grew up together and I do know the trials and troubles he went through.
He was quite intelligent - he was a Nation Merit Scholarship winner as
well as member of the US Navy. He was a radioman on swift boats in Viet
Nam. But as I said, if the Dems want to get more of the votes that went
for "morality and values" they will, in my opinion, soften the rhetoric
on gay marriage. Yes, john kerry said he did not support gay marriage -
but it did chase some moderates to the GOP side of the aisle during
yesterday's vote.

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

Philski

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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
...
Myron writes:

And Liberal is not a swear word.


Oh, I agree. You can not, however, use it to describe today's Democrat
without taking a lot of crap over it. Hence Kerry's "I don't like
labels."
Today's liberal in the Dem Party is not the liberal that I witnessed in
JFK or
Truman or Muskie, but rather more of a socialist. My family voted for
Truman,
and I voted for JFK. Most liberals have taken God out of the equation ( I
know,
I know, there is no god) and many people are now sensing that. The
Trumans/JFKs/Muskys all had God in their equations.

Oh, well. It was a good (or terrible) race and I am very glad it is over.
I
went to bed last night at 10 not really shiving a git who won, knowing
that
whoever it is, we will survive.



Yeah, that's hopefully true. Did I ever mention that I was friends with
Muskie's daughter Martha at UMaine?

--riverman

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philski wrote:

Gays do have every right you and I enjoy. The problems associated with
being gay are real. I would not deny any person their just rights....

I'm warning you, philski, we we permit gay marriage they will book up
all the banquet halls. It will be chaos.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
Nice of George to open the door to the first female US president in
2008. Another president Clinton on the way.

What is it with you Democrats. You have a death wish or something.
Give yourselves a break and run someone who can match up their shoes
with their feet.

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"Wayne Knight" wrote in message
Nice of George to open the door to the first female US president in
2008. Another president Clinton on the way.

What is it with you Democrats. You have a death wish or something.
Give yourselves a break and run someone who can match up their shoes
with their feet.