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Ken Fortenberry July 7th, 2005 12:12 AM

Tom Nakashima wrote:

The list of what's inside the pack: snip


No first aid kit ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry July 7th, 2005 12:14 AM

Wolfgang wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Tom Nakashima wrote:
... I'll be fishing for natural brookies. ...


Naturally reproducing, I'll give you, but brook trout
are non-natives, some say trash fish, in the Sierras.


Brookies aren't native to the Sierras?!! :(

Well......dang.

Wolfgang
who, till now, had never given much credence to the old saw that one learns
something every day.


And to think, you didn't even have to pay tuition.

Today's your lucky day !

--
Ken Fortenberry

Willi July 7th, 2005 12:53 AM

Tom Nakashima wrote:


I actually learned a lot from the old-time packers, but I'm no spring
chicken myself at age 51. My first packs were external framed aluminum, then
I went with internal frame packs that weighed in at 6.5 lbs empty. Over the
years I accumulated lighter weight equipment as the old stuff got replaced.
It's still a cheap way to enjoy the outdoors and of course to fly-fish. Some
of my friends still think the more they bring the better, as a few of their
packs can weigh-in close to 50 lbs. I love hitting the streams, no fish I
pack-up and keep moving.
-tom



Your setup is cool. I think even I could backpack with a setup like
that. Like you said, my backpack empty weighs almost as much as all your
gear does. Something to think about. i think your minimalistic approach
is perfect for a short trip.

Willi


Guyz-N-Flyz July 7th, 2005 01:20 AM


"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...

Links to the contents of my backpack:
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_005.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_008.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_013.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~tomnak/Backpack_Scale_002.jpg
-tom


Great lookin' stuff Tom. Once I get my back issues straightened out, I plan
to do some extended campin' trips by my lonesome. I bought a good deal of
high priced stuff for a trip to the UP with Wolfgang, Asadi, and Peter
Charles, in April of 2001. Unfortunately, my father decided to end his life
a couple of weeks before I was set to go, so no go.

Anyway, I purchased a Mountain Hardware "Trinity" tent. Which is supposed
to be a two-person model, but the other person would have to be the size of
an action figure to make it useable as a two-person tent. I still like it
though, as it is light-weight and easy to set-up and take down. Is your
bivy sac much larger than my tent--if you are familiar with the "Trinity?
that is"

I purchased a Primos "Himalayan" stove. I like it cause it utilizes
virtually any fuel source known to man, except ground crickets?

Got a PUR "Hiker" water microfilter.

A Thermarest self-inflating pad.

I bought a Slumberjack combo sleepy bag that is good to -30 degrees, if you
use both of the bags.

And finally, I purchased a Eureka back pack that you could fit an African
elephant in--7600 cubic inches. Unfortunately, I try to fit way too much
stuff into it!

What size backpack--in cubic inches--would you recommend to defeat my
maximalist tendencies?

Oh yeah, I CAN'T do without the Thermarest pad (back issues, ya know),

Mark




Frank Reid July 7th, 2005 01:33 AM

The list of what's inside the pack: snip

No first aid kit ?


Hell, my first aid kit weighs more than his pack.

--
Frank Reid
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Wolfgang July 7th, 2005 01:50 AM


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...

...Today's your lucky day !


You'll never know.

Wolfgang



Stan Gula July 7th, 2005 02:48 AM

Frank Reid wrote:
The list of what's inside the pack: snip


No first aid kit ?


Hell, my first aid kit weighs more than his pack.


Well, duh, Frankie. Your *friends* carry bigger first aid kits when they
know you'll be around.
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps



William Claspy July 7th, 2005 06:52 PM

On 7/6/05 7:12 PM, in article ,
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:

Tom Nakashima wrote:

The list of what's inside the pack: snip


No first aid kit ?


The same thought hit me as I was mentally going over my own packing list.

Mine lives in my pack (big kit in big pack, smaller kit in small pack) so I
frequently don't even have it on my list. Perhaps the case for Tom?

Bill


Tom Nakashima July 8th, 2005 02:28 PM


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Tom Nakashima wrote:

The list of what's inside the pack: snip


No first aid kit ?

--
Ken Fortenberry


Actually my first aid kit are two band-aids in my wallet and one small pkg
of Advil.
I'm not a risk taker, also I don't rush things and try to make careful
decisions. I also make use of my 5 senses and been lucky so far. Like some
of my friends, they're looking for flaws in my wilderness skills and I'm
sure they're are a few in my 41 yrs of hiking (started when I was 10 when my
father used to take us boys out). Preparation is the key as I map out my
routes clearly on a topo map.

You have to have a passion for the wilderness and teach yourself how to stay
relaxed in given situations. I've found that people who are attached to the
comforts of their home have the hardest time adjusting. Once I awoke to the
sound of an electric shaver. Or there's always someone blasting their mini
TV.
-tom



Scott Seidman July 8th, 2005 02:39 PM

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in
:

Actually my first aid kit are two band-aids in my wallet and one small
pkg of Advil.


I think if you round that out with a safety pin, some moleskin, and a
couple of over the counter antihistamines, it would be pretty complete and
not take up much more space. If you think about it, you can always do
without Advil, but the antihistamines might make the difference between
getting out of the bush and to the hospital, and not making it.

I was surprised as hell when I had a bad reaction to a sting in the field,
having never had a problem before. I tuck antihistamines into the first
aid kit in case pollen or something gets to me, but I was damn glad I had
them along.

Scott


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