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Conan The Librarian December 8th, 2005 05:58 PM

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Wayne Knight wrote:

Conan The Librarian wrote:

It's a *research* library. :-)


Obviously they ain't researching something worthwhile, like making
flyrods perhaps?

Wayne
:-) back at ya


Heh. No, as far as I know, Texas State doesn't have a Department of
Fly Rod Studies. :-)


Chuck Vance (but I'd be the first in line for Bamboo Rod Making 101)



Wayne Knight December 8th, 2005 06:07 PM

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William Claspy wrote:


The cool thing that seemed to happen here is that we got a big donation of
books, maybe 50 years ago, from an alumnus and board member who was one of
those wealthy medical doctor, fly angler types who also liked books. That's
where most of our good stuff came from, the early Derrydales and such.


Which brings the question, let's say an average Joe had a selection of
outdoor books, most of which are *run of the mill*, but maybe a couple
of interest to collectors; would a library such as yours or a research
library in Texas have intrest in such a gift, or should the estate just
have a yard sale?


Tim J. December 8th, 2005 06:14 PM

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Wayne Knight typed:
Tim J. wrote:

Damned libs. ;-)


My wife and I are complete opposites in many things. Recreation, Food,
Entertainment, Money, and most importantly Politics. She is a dyed in
the wool conservative republican.

So take your sterotype and stick it where the sun don't shine Timmay
;)


One Birkenstock up the shoot - got it.

Somehow we will celebrate our 28th wedding anniversary this Dec 30th.


Congrats, old feller. My wife and I did our 30th last June.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



[email protected] December 8th, 2005 06:17 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
On 7 Dec 2005 14:19:25 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


Tom Nakashima wrote:
I got a pretty good size divot where my index finger touches the cork on my
fly-rod. There are a lot of divots but this one is annoying. Is there a
cork filler on the market, or can you make it yourself? Been to the hardware
store, wood filler (not sure if that will do), but no cork filler.


For cuts in the cork, I use a different approach a plug cutter drill
bit to bore the area approx 3/4 the way to rod handle (measure the
distance then transfer the measurement to the drill bit and wrap tape
around the bit for use a stopping guide). Then I use a tenon bit to
drill through the wine cork to make a dowel the same diameter. The
resulting dowel fits in the plug hole, cut it off as close as possible
to the rest of the handle and lightly sand to flush. It can sometimes
be a PITA to get it set but slight twisting helps. In one case I didn't
even need to use any adhesive.

I'm not trying to get another this way versus that way sub-thread
started, but I have a couple of questions:

When you say "plug cutter drill bit," are you referring to the
thick-walled tool used to cut plugs to be popped out of a block of wood
for, for example, covering screw/bolt counterbore holes?

Do you mean mortising, rather than tenon, bit/chisel, or ???

I think I know what you are suggesting, but I'm not sure, given the
terms.

IAC, if you need to do this again, and don't want to do it right G,
maybe try a SH-A-A-RP!! Forstner bit, by hand, on the handle, with the
handle blocked in a vice or similar (just to hold it steady - it
shouldn't take much pressure). Then either sand down the wine cork with
it chucked in a drill (not my choice, for several reasons) or cut a plug
from a ring.

TC,
R



Wayne Knight December 8th, 2005 06:19 PM

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Tom Nakashima wrote:

had our squabbles, but the good times outweigh them.


Agree. Thanks for the good wishes Tom and congrats on yours.

Wayne


Conan The Librarian December 8th, 2005 06:29 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
wrote:

On 7 Dec 2005 14:19:25 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:

For cuts in the cork, I use a different approach a plug cutter drill
bit to bore the area approx 3/4 the way to rod handle (measure the
distance then transfer the measurement to the drill bit and wrap tape
around the bit for use a stopping guide). Then I use a tenon bit to
drill through the wine cork to make a dowel the same diameter. The
resulting dowel fits in the plug hole, cut it off as close as possible
to the rest of the handle and lightly sand to flush. It can sometimes
be a PITA to get it set but slight twisting helps. In one case I didn't
even need to use any adhesive.


I'm not trying to get another this way versus that way sub-thread
started, but I have a couple of questions:

When you say "plug cutter drill bit," are you referring to the
thick-walled tool used to cut plugs to be popped out of a block of wood
for, for example, covering screw/bolt counterbore holes?


Not to speak for Wayne, but yeah ...

Do you mean mortising, rather than tenon, bit/chisel, or ???


He's referring to a bit that cuts a round "tenon" on the end of a
piece of wood. They're useful for chairmaking and a few other workshop
tasks.


Chuck Vance


William Claspy December 8th, 2005 06:44 PM

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On 12/8/05 1:07 PM, in article
, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:

William Claspy wrote:


The cool thing that seemed to happen here is that we got a big donation of
books, maybe 50 years ago, from an alumnus and board member who was one of
those wealthy medical doctor, fly angler types who also liked books. That's
where most of our good stuff came from, the early Derrydales and such.


Which brings the question, let's say an average Joe had a selection of
outdoor books, most of which are *run of the mill*, but maybe a couple
of interest to collectors; would a library such as yours or a research
library in Texas have intrest in such a gift, or should the estate just
have a yard sale?


The flippant answer is that they should let me have dibs, THEN have a yard
sale. :-)

The real answer is... well... it depends. Back in the day, we pretty much
accepted any gift of books. And in that specific case, it was, as I said, a
wealthy alum who was also on the board. So yup, we'll accept them :-)
These days, with space problems being what they are, we are more reluctant
and choosy about what we accept. For example, my father (alum and emeritus,
but not on the board :-) had many shelves worth of books that he wanted to
donate, but the bulk of them were 1950s-1970's vintage physics and
engineering texts, which are quite run of the mill and which we already have
(and don't circulate much any more.) Stuff like that we turn down a lot.
If your situation is actual, rather than hypothetical, our library wouldn't
be a good match. We happen to have some nice fishing stuff, but it isn't
(unfortunately!) a collection we are actively maintaining or adding to.

In general, for a gift of books all of a specific genre, particularly when
it is a high quality collection, the donor can target a library that
specializes in that genre. I have a friend who owns an original handwritten
Civil War diary of a private from a New York regiment- I suggested the New
York Historical Society. For fly fishing books, I'd (reluctantly :-) point
the donor to the University of New Hampshire. When the items go to a place
like this, it is likely that they will be used, carefully and correctly
cataloged, studied, etc. Of course many times, unless the items are unique,
a place with a big collection will already own them.

In which case, just let me have 'em already, Wayne!

Bill


[email protected] December 8th, 2005 09:14 PM

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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:29:00 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

wrote:

On 7 Dec 2005 14:19:25 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:

For cuts in the cork, I use a different approach a plug cutter drill
bit to bore the area approx 3/4 the way to rod handle (measure the
distance then transfer the measurement to the drill bit and wrap tape
around the bit for use a stopping guide). Then I use a tenon bit to
drill through the wine cork to make a dowel the same diameter. The
resulting dowel fits in the plug hole, cut it off as close as possible
to the rest of the handle and lightly sand to flush. It can sometimes
be a PITA to get it set but slight twisting helps. In one case I didn't
even need to use any adhesive.


I'm not trying to get another this way versus that way sub-thread
started, but I have a couple of questions:

When you say "plug cutter drill bit," are you referring to the
thick-walled tool used to cut plugs to be popped out of a block of wood
for, for example, covering screw/bolt counterbore holes?


Not to speak for Wayne, but yeah ...


Um, if you're not to speak for him...

Do you mean mortising, rather than tenon, bit/chisel, or ???


He's referring to a bit that cuts a round "tenon" on the end of a
piece of wood. They're useful for chairmaking and a few other workshop
tasks.


Assuming you are correct, and he did mean tenon cutter, it is really
just another, ahem, thick-walled plug-cutter (in fact, many such bits
are dual-purpose tenon/plug cutters), so OK, so two cutters, one of
which is going to need to have the exact same ID as the other's OD, and
most commonly, both are tools whose ID is the only dimension typically
noted. But hey, if you've got a range of tenon cutters and a
plug-cutting set (or a combo set) handy, what's a little mic'ing. Oh,
and given the construction of the typical cutters of this type, now we
need some way to obtain sufficient speed as to not tear either the
handle cork or the plug stock and some way of holding the wine cork to
safely and accurately cut a plug from it. And so on, and so on...

HTH,
R


[email protected] December 8th, 2005 09:25 PM

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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:55:12 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:


Hmmm ... "with any great success" implies that you have seen them
done and seen them fail. Is that so?


Hmmm...if you were concerned about that little tidbit of info, it might
have been a little better to ask about it early on - as always, YMMV...

TC,
R
....and BTW, yes. And I've tried a variety of methods to repair handles
and grips, learning in the process that there is usually a reason why
the "preferred methods" are generally, well, er, preferred (admittedly
not _always_ absolutely)...but, hey, ask Frank Reid about his buddy in
the tails and TnCs...

Wolfgang December 8th, 2005 11:21 PM

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wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:55:12 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:


Hmmm ... "with any great success" implies that you have seen them
done and seen them fail. Is that so?


Hmmm...if you were concerned about that little tidbit of info, it might
have been a little better to ask about it early on - as always, YMMV...

TC,
R
...and BTW, yes. And I've tried a variety of methods to repair handles
and grips, learning in the process that there is usually a reason why
the "preferred methods" are generally, well, er, preferred (admittedly
not _always_ absolutely)...but, hey, ask Frank Reid about his buddy in
the tails and TnCs...


Ah, dicklet, you are positively a SCREAM! :)

Assuming (just for the moment.....because it's fun) that "preferred methods"
actually means something in the current context, a couple of questions
arise:

1: Again, just who is this two left hand and all thumbs abortion of a fix
preferred by?
2: Is the skill level of a couple of chubs who find complex machinery like
a knife, a bit of glue, and sandpaper too daunting to contemplate a standard
we should ALL aspire to?
3: Do you honestly believe that your contributions to this discussion can
possibly be seen by anyone as anything but hilarious?
4: Do you honestly believe that at this late date you can actually convince
anyone that you have ever done ANYTHING?

It is mindboggling but evidently inescapable that once again you have
absolutely no idea of what is being done to you. Come to think of it, this
is probably a natural consequence of never having done anything
yourself.....and so on and so on. :)

Wolfgang




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