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Wolfgang March 9th, 2006 12:25 AM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 

"rb608" wrote in message
news:9tKPf.13381$eP4.11080@trnddc05...
"rb608" wrote in message
How much length would you need to add to the rope to raise it 6 inches off
the earth at all points?


The corrct answer is: The hotel has $25, the bellhop has $2, and each
guest has $1 for a total of $30. There is no missing dollar.

Joe F.


p.s. What I always loved about math (and yes, I'm a geek), is that nobody
needs to tell you if your answer is the right answer. When you understand
it, you already *know* if you have the right answer. But for the record,
the correct answer to the question I thought I posed is Pi (3.1415...)
feet.


I like the answer.....well, both of them, actually. :)

The trouble is that the question is wrong. You never wrote that. Trust
me.......I have it from unimpeachable sources.

Wolfgang



rw March 9th, 2006 03:09 AM

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Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...

One great thing about Wolfgang -- more than likely the only good thing --
is that if you want an enemy, he's a good one to have. :-)



If you wanted an enemy, I could teach even you what BAD means.


Ooooo! I'm really, really scared. Are you planning to send some of your
killing-crazy Coast Guard buddies to look me up? Disguised as Postal
Service employees, perhaps? Now THAT would be scary.

I guess life will never be the same for me. I'll be continually looking
over my back. Oh well. I'm manage to cope, somehow.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

[email protected] March 9th, 2006 06:00 AM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 
A pflueger medalist 1495 is a good all around reel that will always be
cheap, has an adjustable drag, reversible crank, cheap spools and lots
of them around second hand. Only trouble is you can buy them new for
about the used price for the older ones.

If you are a new fly caster a double taper line will let you roll cast
and feel the line on your back cast. The dealers want to sell you
several weight forward lines which will not roll cast or spey cast like
a double taper. they think you need a line for every spe cies of fish.
If you pay attention to learning the principles of casting you can do
about everything you want to do fishing with a double taper line and
have more fun with it. You can cast just about as far with a double
taper and have a much better feeling cast. The double taper loads your
rod so it feels good and you want to cast it. The Pfleuger is the first
large arbor reel. You don't need the large arbor reels they are selling
now because you want a reel and a couple of spare spools One with a
sink tip and another with a full sink line. The large arbor reels are
too bulky and their spare spools are too bulky for your fly vest.

A cheap double taper line from a big box store - 15.00 or so at K Mart
-will do you just fine until you are more familiar with the craft. Then
you can spring for a stiff floating line which will be easier to handle
in a boat or standing up than a weight forward. It will also cast
farther because it doesn't tangle up much and goes through the guides
better. The high end lines cost more than the reel. Don't be afraid to
clean and dress your floating line. It will pick up easier and go
through the guides faster and farther.

Good Luck
Bill


rw March 9th, 2006 06:07 AM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 
wrote:

Good Luck
Bill


That's sensible advice, Bill.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Cyli March 9th, 2006 06:17 AM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 00:16:05 GMT, "rb608"
wrote:

"rb608" wrote in message
How much length would you need to add to the rope to raise it 6 inches off
the earth at all points?


The corrct answer is: The hotel has $25, the bellhop has $2, and each guest
has $1 for a total of $30. There is no missing dollar.

Joe F.


p.s. What I always loved about math (and yes, I'm a geek), is that nobody
needs to tell you if your answer is the right answer. When you understand
it, you already *know* if you have the right answer. But for the record,
the correct answer to the question I thought I posed is Pi (3.1415...) feet.


I'm still lost in visions of a rope fitting snugly around the earth. I
try seeing the supporting structure needed to keep the rope from
dipping into the oceans it must cross and my mind keeps coming up with
the highway to Hawaii or the Bridge to Nowhere.

It's as bad for me as the one about the conveyor belt with an airplane
on it and the belt increasing speed as the plane does, so it,
supposedly, can't take off. I kept imagining the belt going all
kablooey and me standing there with one of my favorite quotes: It
blowed up real good, dinnit it? (from someone named Ernest in some
movie I never saw.). The parts flying though the air, the plane being
whipped into the stratosphere by the flexing belt. Ah, things of
beauty.

Sorry, guys, back to your math.
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless.
Really.

Wolfgang March 9th, 2006 11:34 AM

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"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...
Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
nk.net...

One great thing about Wolfgang -- more than likely the only good thing --
is that if you want an enemy, he's a good one to have. :-)



If you wanted an enemy, I could teach even you what BAD means.


Ooooo! I'm really, really scared. Are you planning to send some of your
killing-crazy Coast Guard buddies to look me up? Disguised as Postal
Service employees, perhaps? Now THAT would be scary.


The Coast Guard? You mean the United States Coast Guard? I don't know
anybody in the United States Coast Guard. Where DO you get these stupid
ideas?

I guess life will never be the same for me.


That which is to be wished for.....if the evidence presented here is to be
given any credence, eh?

I'll be continually looking over my back.


Not as difficult a trick as a competent reader might think.....for one
blessed with sufficient flexibility to stick his head up his ass.

Oh well. I'm manage to cope, somehow.


I've heard that being first with the right answer is a marvelous bulwark to
delusions of adequacy.

Good luck.

Wolfgang



rb608 March 9th, 2006 11:41 AM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 
"Cyli" wrote in message
I'm still lost in visions of a rope fitting snugly around the earth. I
try seeing the supporting structure needed to keep the rope from
dipping into the oceans it must cross


See, everybody has a little bit of "engineer" in them. :-)

It's as bad for me as the one about the conveyor belt with an airplane
on it and the belt increasing speed as the plane does, so it,
supposedly, can't take off.


Hey, wait a minute; that only works if the plane achieves its takeoff
velocity through traction on the belt. (The pilots here will no doubt
correct me if I'm wrong, but) ground speed has nothing to do with takeoff.

Hopelessly analytical,
Joe F.



Charlie Choc March 9th, 2006 12:34 PM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:41:46 GMT, "rb608" wrote:

Hey, wait a minute; that only works if the plane achieves its takeoff
velocity through traction on the belt. (The pilots here will no doubt
correct me if I'm wrong, but) ground speed has nothing to do with takeoff.

I'm not a pilot, but I do know a few. I always thought takeoff speed was a
function of ground speed and wind velocity/direction, and of course weight. How
is it ground speed has nothing to do with takeoff?
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Ken Fortenberry March 9th, 2006 12:39 PM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 
Charlie Choc wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:41:46 GMT, "rb608" wrote:

Hey, wait a minute; that only works if the plane achieves its takeoff
velocity through traction on the belt. (The pilots here will no doubt
correct me if I'm wrong, but) ground speed has nothing to do with takeoff.

I'm not a pilot, but I do know a few. I always thought takeoff speed was a
function of ground speed and wind velocity/direction, and of course weight. How
is it ground speed has nothing to do with takeoff?


I'm not a pilot, but I crashed a hang glider one time. ;-)

What matters is the wind speed seen by the leading edge
of the wing. A plane could become airborne while completely
at rest, relative to the ground, so long as the leading edge
of the wing saw enough wind speed. Think wind tunnel.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Charlie Choc March 9th, 2006 01:19 PM

First Fly Rod, Reel and line Questions??
 
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 12:39:02 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

What matters is the wind speed seen by the leading edge
of the wing. A plane could become airborne while completely
at rest, relative to the ground, so long as the leading edge
of the wing saw enough wind speed. Think wind tunnel.


That's obvious, that's why I said "takeoff speed was a function of ground speed
and wind velocity/direction" - which will determine the wind speed over the
wing. Taking off with the wind behind you will need more ground speed, and thus
runway, than if the wind is from the front. To say "ground speed has nothing to
do with takeoff" doesn't account for this.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com


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