John Wayne
 

John Wayne
 

On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:28:36 -0600, rw
wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:51:22 -0400, daytripper
wrote:


And for the record, unlike one odious ****tard here
who thankfully has been hiding for awhile, I'd never use something like that
as a dig...


Hiding? I'm not hiding, you big monkey. I've been fishing for two
weeks. Why dontcha come on up. I'll give you the fly to fish (what's
new?), how to fish it (again, what's new?) and where to fish it (again
I repeat my self, what's new). Who ever taught you to fly fish,
monkey, didn't know **** about it.

As for Dave, he is a whack job, as you are, you cheap *******.

Feel the comraderie.

lol!

And a real nice rise, dontcha think?

Though you'd think he'd prefer leaving his identity at least a shadow of a
secret, he just can't resist grabbing that mantle, every time ;-)

/daytripper

John Wayne
 

"JR" wrote in message
...
wrote:

IMDB lists his birthday as May 26th, 1907. That'd make him 34 at the
start of WWII. While he could have been drafted, it's pretty unlikely.

I'd be depressed about sharing a birth date with Wayne if it weren't for
1) The Quiet Man and 2) sharing it with Pam Grier too..... ;)

- JR

Your writing seems so youthful, I'd have never suspected that you were 99
years old!

Op

John Wayne
 

JR wrote:
wrote:

IMDB lists his birthday as May 26th, 1907. That'd make him 34 at the
start of WWII. While he could have been drafted, it's pretty unlikely.

I'd be depressed about sharing a birth date with Wayne if it weren't for
1) The Quiet Man and 2) sharing it with Pam Grier too..... ;)

- JR

I suspect I'm exposing my (relative) youth, but who is Pam Grier?
Only thing I recognize on IMDB is that she was a voice on Pinky and
the Brain.
- Ken

John Wayne
 

I certainly wouldn't put John Wayne above guys like Stewart for his effort
during WWII. I just hate how people try to re-write history to fit their
warped views. John Wayne's deferment history is a matter of record and he
tried, unsuccessfully to bypass that deferment. Unable to do so, he spent 3
months in the Pacific trying to boost the moral of the men. He was nearly
universally loved by the GIs and did indeed punch out a couple of GIs in
bars who questioned why he was deferred. He never backed down from a fight.
He tried to get into the Naval Academy when he got out of high school -
doesn't sound like a draft dodger to me. I'd like to see some proof that he
asked for a deferment - proof, not some 'blog' by a guy named Cecil. This
crap about John Wayne kind of shows that guys like Dan Rather, have been
making up stories a lot longer than was publicized. Of course they won't
confess to it unless they're caught red handed, and you left-handed wingnuts
eat it up.

Gene


"David Snedeker" wrote in message
...

........SNIP....
Again, why do you defend this second rate actor, John Wayne, this
blowhard
phony whose deferment history is a matter of record, when there are
people,
like Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda etc., of various political persuasions
whose service is both extraordinary and documented? For example, if Im not
mistaken, Stewart did the full complement of daylight missions in B-17s
over
Germany and survived, unlike over 50k other USAAF air crew. Fiction is
great, but real is, after all, real.

Dave

John Wayne
 

In article ,
says...

If its something about me being a lib, well I see myself as of the
progressive persuasion but I wouldn't call myself (nor do the people who
know me call me) a "liberal." For example Im with Buchannon on immigration
and H1b and H2b, bi-lingual ed is not me (although I study other languages),
Im opposed to rampant Federalism, deficit spending worries me, I see NAFTA
and much of globalization as a disaster, just to name a few of my non-lib
empty pigeon holes.

And Ideology really does suck.

Except yours apparently. :-)

Come on, read the two sections together.....the one where you set out
the aspects of your personal ideology and the one that says that
ideology sucks......I just know you can do it this time.

GOOOOOO DAVE!!!!!
- Ken

John Wayne
 

wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

If its something about me being a lib, well I see myself as of the
progressive persuasion but I wouldn't call myself (nor do the people who
know me call me) a "liberal." For example Im with Buchannon on
immigration
and H1b and H2b, bi-lingual ed is not me (although I study other
languages),
Im opposed to rampant Federalism, deficit spending worries me, I see
NAFTA
and much of globalization as a disaster, just to name a few of my
non-lib
empty pigeon holes.

And Ideology really does suck.

Except yours apparently. :-)

Come on, read the two sections together.....the one where you set out
the aspects of your personal ideology and the one that says that
ideology sucks......I just know you can do it this time.

GOOOOOO DAVE!!!!!
- Ken

Look, you labeled me as a "liberal." I just pointed out some illustrative
inconsistencies in that label. We have different understandings of the
meaning of the word "ideology." Ive studied a few ideologies (specifically
Marxism-Leninism, Italian Fascism, German Nazism, Christian Socialism,
Argentine Radicalism, Mexican Revolutionary Institutionalism, Cuban
Communism, Roman Catholicism, Communist Internationalism, Trotskyite
Communism, American Liberalism, American Conservatism, American Federalist
Extremism, etc..)

I would liken your understanding of the term ideology as similar to the
"common" understanding of the term "theory" which is held by folks who have
a problem with the teaching of evolution as the theory which underpins
modern biology. And I would guess that according to your understanding, just
about everyone who has ideas, beliefs or attitudes, also has an "ideology" .
.. . by your lights.

Its OK by me if thats where your understanding rests, and so I don't really
expect that the next "clue" will change anything. However . . . one could
start by thinking about the difference between deductive logic, and
inductive logic. An ideology starts with the conclusion and fits the
observations, and then the actions. A system for alternative thought
experiments that might be useful in exploring the particular, has yielded
mostly horror when it comes to the task of guiding nation states.

If you wanted a label for me you could do worst than "empiricist."
Because . . . Ideology sucks
But my guess is that you will say "Ah ha! His ideology is Empiricism!
See, I told you he has an ideology.

Dave

John Wayne
 

John Wayne
 

JR wrote:
wrote:

I suspect I'm exposing my (relative) youth, but who is Pam Grier?
Only thing I recognize on IMDB is that she was a voice on Pinky and
the Brain.

You need to go to Blockbuster and check out the old "blaxploitation"
flicks Coffy and Foxy Brown, and the more recent Quentin Tarantino film
Jackie Brown.

I, on the other hand, am going to resist like hell trying to find a copy
of Pinky and the Brain.... ;)

- JR

I suspect you feel the same about P&tB as I feel about most
Tarantino films. I'll take a look at the box covers the next time
I'm in Blockbuster.
Thanks,
- Ken

John Wayne
 

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JR wrote:
wrote:

IMDB lists his birthday as May 26th, 1907. That'd make him 34 at the
start of WWII. While he could have been drafted, it's pretty unlikely.

I'd be depressed about sharing a birth date with Wayne if it weren't for
1) The Quiet Man and 2) sharing it with Pam Grier too..... ;)

- JR

I suspect I'm exposing my (relative) youth, but who is Pam Grier?
Only thing I recognize on IMDB is that she was a voice on Pinky and
the Brain.

In answer to your question, Pam Grier is an actress who did one of the
voices on "Pinky and the Brain" and all the other stuff you didn't recognize
on IMDB.

Wolfgang
who still wonders how anyone can fail to recognize someone who asks a
question.....and then answers it.....and then posts the question.....and
then the answer, as an idiot.