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Wolfgang June 23rd, 2006 02:23 AM

Bear Pepper Spray Repellent?
 

rw wrote:
...I don't
recall drinking anything, but it interesting to see the inside of my
colon on the TV.


Is it any different than the live view?

Wolfgang
who could look it up.....but prefers primary sources.


rw June 23rd, 2006 02:34 AM

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Wolfgang wrote:
rw wrote:

...I don't
recall drinking anything, but it interesting to see the inside of my
colon on the TV.



Is it any different than the live view?


That's funny.

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rw June 23rd, 2006 02:36 AM

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Daniel-San wrote:

Yeah, the TV monitor is very strange. Almost surreal. I don't really pay it
much attention anymore. I've had the same doc thru 6 of these things, and
he's been a little more free with the Valium each time. Knowing the history
of colon cancer and ulcerative colitis in my family, and knowing that as a
former Head I may enjoy the occassional prescribed buzz, I think he does
that as an inducement to get me back every year.

Working so far...


If you have a really good health-care plan maybe you can arrange a
bi-weekly procedure.

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Daniel-San June 23rd, 2006 02:38 AM

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"rw" wrote

If you have a really good health-care plan maybe you can arrange a
bi-weekly procedure.



Hmmm... might be worth researching....

Dan



June 23rd, 2006 05:43 AM

Bear Pepper Spray Repellent?
 
In article ,
says...
On 22 Jun 2006 16:21:46 -0700, "bruiser"
wrote:


wrote:

I've been within fifteen feet of many bears without any worry.


15 FEET? No worry? Wow. I'm not getting within 100 feet of even a
local black bear (on purpose) unless it's dead. Brown Bear? 75 yards
and heading toward me and I'm trying to outrun my friends. Probably
successfully : -) bruce h


I'll load some pictures and post them. You tell me how close I was. I
don't mean to sound cavalier, Bruce, but they are a common occurance
in parts of Alaska, and are very accustomed to seeing/smelling/hearing
humans.


I'm sorry, but unless you were floating past on a boat I don't believe
you.

I've been within maybe 50 feet of a brown in Alaska and we were both
very uncomfortable.
- Ken

briansfly June 23rd, 2006 05:49 PM

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wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:39:30 GMT, rw
wrote:


What are you, Brian? Some kind of wussy gay faux cowboy putz?



Nah, only one allowed per newsgroup.

He did say 75 yards, I believe. That's quite a distance. Could it
have been his first encounter with an Alaskan brown? I was taken
aback with my first sighting of one less than 100 feet from us in the
water while we floated towards him. He moved.


I'll add, I was concerned when the bear didn't run off after the initial
"hey bear" routine. It didn't appear the bear was going to change
course(walking directly towards me)after repeated, LOUD attempts to
discourage it. What most concerned me was the way the guides reacted.
They were visibly concerned, and I do believe they would've fired a
warning shot(later, I overheard them talking about firing a gun)had they
brought the shotgun. The chatter about, "did you bring a gun...no do you
have one", changed my sense of well being a LOT. :-) The bear didn't
move off right away. It hung around and showed itself again. The guides
kept a keen eye till they felt it had moved on. After talking with the
guides, the overall feeling I got was this was a young, rogue bear, and
there was reason to be concerned.

brians



briansfly June 23rd, 2006 06:02 PM

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wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:12:29 GMT, briansfly
wrote:


It finally veers off to it's left, and disappears
into the bush....but not after it grabbed a salmon carcass and carried
it into the bush. You could hear the bones cracking as it ate the fish.
I could only think how loud my bones would've been.



What time of the year were you there, Brian? During the spawn, the
bears generally eat only the brains and skin - high protein areas -
and leave the flesh alone. It isn't until later in the season, late
September, early November, that they start eating the entire fish.


Hi Dave. We were there mid to late Sept. for the Silver run.

Still, 75 yards is quite a distance. I'll post some more pix of a
bear that swam across the river because we were catching lots of
silvers. He walked towards us while we backed away,shouting and
waving our arms. I made sure the pilot of the aircraft was between me
and the bear. The guide was up-river with a man and woman from
England. Mr. Bruin continued to advance, only to completely ignore us
about 30 feet distance when he changed course and went up a trail.


30' is way past my comfort zone, but at least you had someone in between
you and those teeth. :-)

brians

The same bear approached a small sow with two or three cubs. She
gathered the cubs and stood in front of them, but the big male ignored
her and started his swim across the Big River (upstream about a 1/4
mile from Cooks Inlet.) Salmon don't offer as much fight as a sow
with cubs. d;o)

Dave





Larry L June 25th, 2006 02:34 AM

Bear Pepper Spray Repellent?
 

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
...
Anyone ever have to use it? Does it actually work?
Seems to me that would really ****-off a bear.
http://www.tbotech.com/bearspray.htm
-tom


I'm on WiFi in a W.Yellowstone bar so I don't have time to read all the
replies,

Here is mine ...

after several summers here I finally bought some bear spray ... like all
insurance, I hope to never use it. I DO feel better having it in places
known for bears. That feeling better can't be allowed to replace caution,
of course.

I bought it after a half dozen LOCALs told me that they carry it and hearing
a couple of the stories about why. I've had numerous Black Bear
meetings in the Sierras and never felt the need, but Grizzly tracks are
pretty impressive G

Actually more people have been killed by blacks, I'm told. The spray also
works on Moose and Moose can be plain old mean.

There is no guarantee that the bear will stop an attack if you spray him,
and there is none that you will be able to get the spray out fast enough and
use it. But there are numerous cases of bears that ran off after being
sprayed and Craig Matthews tells me some Park bears turn and leave at the
sight of the canister, they have been there, done that, and don't want
another taste of the same.

No technology is worth as much as common sense ... travel with care where
you might find a bear




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rw June 25th, 2006 03:02 AM

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Larry L wrote:

The spray also
works on Moose and Moose can be plain old mean.


"Moose spray" just doesn't have the same ring to it. :-)

I understand that it also works on subpoena servers and repo men.

BTW, I heard something funny on the radio, on the NPR show "Wait, Wait,
Don't Tell Me." A study found that Duct Tape is the most effective
remedy for getting rid of warts -- 85% effective, better than freezing
with liquid nitrogen:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in525523.shtml

On the other hand, it isn't worth **** for repairing ducts:

http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/...duct_tape.html

I guess they didn't want to call it Wart Tape.

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