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"steve sullivan" wrote in message
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...Which countrys allow unlimited immigration for any reason?...

None. And, as I understand the word "none" this would necessarily mean that
the U.S. does not allow unlimited immigration for any reason. Now, exactly
how would you like to change this.......and why?

Wolfgang

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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 03:16:44 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

bones wrote:

nothing more than a dodge. which is "code" for you can't answer my
question. Please quote my use of the word "overpopulation" in this
thread......

Did you have a question ? No Harry, you don't have any questions, all
you have is cutesy code words designed to dance the semantic fandango
around a racist agenda. **** you and all your racist code words, your
incredulous posturing fools no one here, except perhaps yourself.

and once again it boils down to you telling people to ****
off...projecting peoples "code words" to fit you preconceptions must
make you one lonely Son of Bitch.
No code words in that statement Ken, no matter how desperately you may
need them to be there.

Tell your senators to defeat the Bush-Cheney energy bill

"Tim J." wrote in message
news:mkFSb.145185$Rc4.1170713@attbi_s54...

"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Tim J." wrote...

I really don't have anything to add, but I thought Warren should read
this.
:)))

And, as he hasn't typed anything in response, one almost has to wonder
where
his fingers have been for the past ten hours or so. :)

Wolfgang
who, in a like situation, is not at all sure that he could resist the
temptation to respond to something that he hadn't seen.

Then again, it's quite possible there are two entries in his bozo bin. . .

Well, if you're referring to my evil twin Skippy, yeah, even I ****canned
that ******* a long time ago......um.....or did you have someone else in
mind? :)

Meanwhile, which you do think is inherently more amusing, someone who
pretends he doesn't read something and cannot refrain from responding
anyway.....or someone who pretends he doesn't read something and finds
himself in the excruciatingly untenable position of being unable to respond
for fear of tipping his hand.....and taking yet another beating? In either
case, I think you'll agree, one is hard pressed to understand why the simple
expedient of keeping their eyes open and NOT eating boogers never occurred
to them and, of course, one must be grateful that it hasn't and in all
likelihood it never will unless they read this......or even if they do, for
that matter. Hee, hee, hee.

Wolfgang

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On 30 Jan 2004 21:20:28 GMT, "David Snedeker"
wrote:

(greatly snipped)

they often get weird, stop looking service people in the eye, get
freaky about the food, and persnickety about "service", or even talking to
people.

Hey, I've been that lib. It's a bummer to realize it, too. I still
can't figure if it was fear, unfamiliarity, or finding the shoe on the
other foot. Probably a combination, as it's not always the case.
--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"Bob Weinberger" wrote in message
...

While the majority of what we export is in raw logs and pulp chips, and
the
majority of what we import is in at least partially finished products
(mostly sawn lumber for construction or further processing), the
specific
ratios/mixes are quite complex, and getting a definitive answer to your
question would take more effort than I'm willing to give - unless of
course
you are willing to fund me to undertake such a project.

What would it cost to get you to address Scott's original point which,
since
no one seems inclined to read it, I will state he apparently tried to
illustrate with an invitation to consider U.S. forest exports?

Wolfgang

I'm not sure I understand your specific question. I thought that I had
already responded to his original point -

"In addition, I'm not sure that Natural resource use is directly related to
population growth in the US in this global economy. Think about how much
of our forests get exported. You might be able to better link natural
resource use and world population, but it might not make that much of a
difference where the people are actually located."

Which I took to be based on a belief on his part that that we are net
exporters of forest wood.

His subsequent response of "I stand corrected!" to my response of:
" Actually we are importing 30-40% of the wood products we use, while
exporting less than 8.25% of the wood we harvest, despite the fact that
total growth of wood in our forests exceeds our total current usage."
seemed to validate my interpretation his original point.

(BTW those figures are *relatively*easily derived from various publications
of the USDA and the Commerce Department)

To provide a more definitive answer to his query, "Just out of curiosity,
how much of that exported wood is raw lumber, vs
processed lumber (like furniture or some such)? I assume most of the
imports are processed.", than the one I gave above would take at least a
week ( more likely several weeks) of intensive digging and verifying of
sources. To my knowledge no agency attempts to keep accurate data on global
wood trade at that detailed a level. While my rates are significantly
below those of most lawyers, 40-100+ billable hours would represent a
substantial sum.

--
Bob Weinberger
Forest Management Consulting

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Wolfgang wrote:
"Warren" wrote:
wrote...

Then again, it's quite possible there are two entries in his bozo bin. .

No, just one.

And THAT is a damning testament, if ever there was one.

Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves. :)

I'm kinda, sorta, half-assed in the Californicator Cowboy's bozo bin,
so I suppose I have a little less to be ashamed of than some. ;-)

--
Ken Fortenberry

Tell your senators to defeat the Bush-Cheney energy bill

"Bob Weinberger" wrote in message
...

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"Bob Weinberger" wrote in message
...

While the majority of what we export is in raw logs and pulp chips,
and
the
majority of what we import is in at least partially finished products
(mostly sawn lumber for construction or further processing), the
specific
ratios/mixes are quite complex, and getting a definitive answer to
your
question would take more effort than I'm willing to give - unless of
course
you are willing to fund me to undertake such a project.

What would it cost to get you to address Scott's original point which,
since
no one seems inclined to read it, I will state he apparently tried to
illustrate with an invitation to consider U.S. forest exports?

Wolfgang

I'm not sure I understand your specific question. I thought that I had
already responded to his original point -

"In addition, I'm not sure that Natural resource use is directly related
to
population growth in the US in this global economy. Think about how much
of our forests get exported. You might be able to better link natural
resource use and world population, but it might not make that much of a
difference where the people are actually located."

Which I took to be based on a belief on his part that that we are net
exporters of forest wood.

His subsequent response of "I stand corrected!" to my response of:
" Actually we are importing 30-40% of the wood products we use, while
exporting less than 8.25% of the wood we harvest, despite the fact that
total growth of wood in our forests exceeds our total current usage."
seemed to validate my interpretation his original point.

(BTW those figures are *relatively*easily derived from various
publications
of the USDA and the Commerce Department)

To provide a more definitive answer to his query, "Just out of curiosity,
how much of that exported wood is raw lumber, vs
processed lumber (like furniture or some such)? I assume most of the
imports are processed.", than the one I gave above would take at least a
week ( more likely several weeks) of intensive digging and verifying of
sources. To my knowledge no agency attempts to keep accurate data on
global
wood trade at that detailed a level. While my rates are significantly
below those of most lawyers, 40-100+ billable hours would represent a
substantial sum.

--
Bob Weinberger
Forest Management Consulting

Yeah, that's what I thought. And so we see once again, boys and girls, that
there is no one in this world so easily led astray as an expert.....or a
ROFFian....but then, to borrow a phrase from Mr. Clemens, I repeat myself.

Wolfgang

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"Wolfgang" wrote...
"Warren" wrote...
Tim J. wrote...
Then again, it's quite possible there are two entries in his bozo bin. .

No, just one.

And THAT is a damning testament, if ever there was one.

Ya'll should be ashamed of yourselves. :)

Wolfgang

To honor Warren's commitment to this endeavor, I will no longer respond to any
of your posts. At very least, I will snip all of the contents.

Oops! I'll get the hang of this soon enough. ;-)
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj