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"snakefiddler" wrote in message ...
"Mike Connor" wrote in message ... "B J Conner" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... SNIP One of Lefty Frizzel biggest hits was "If you got the money honey I got the time". I am sure you have heard that. Have you heard of Hank Snow? "I've Been Everywhere, I'm Moving On, The Golden Rocket etc", Hank Williams- "Your Cheating Heart", "Jambalaya", "Cold Cold Heart", "I Saw The Light" etc. I have a lot the guys above as well as Tex Ritter and Hank Thompson , these guys defined country music as far as I'm concerened. They were recording great songs long before some of the disco singer with cowboy hats were kicking the slats out of their craddles. Hank Thompson recorded "Oklahoma Hills" a song that is more of an anthem than "Okie from Muskogee" is for Okies and Sooners, the best version was recorded by Gene Autry. I have heard of and also heard some of them. Hank Snow of course, Tex Ritter, Hank Williams, Johnny Russell, Hank Locklin, Jim Reeves, Wink Martindale, and a host of others. Never heard (of) Hank Thompson, or Gene Autry (Except as a film star. Was he "the singing cowboy"?), or Lefty Frizzel, as far as I am aware. Donīt know the song you mentioned either. I do like some of the Ladies, most especially Patsy Cline ( Sp?), Tammy Wynette ( Sp), Lynn Anderson, and quite a few more, I have a few CDīs of these ( "Best Ofīs, Collections, etc), and quite a few old LPīs which I will probably never listen to again. They have been in a cupboard for the last fourteen years, since I moved house last time. They were not used for quite a while before that either. I always meant to get them on to digital media, but never got around to doing it. I still have a record player, but donīt use it any more. Indeed I like quite a large number. Donīt much like much of the modern stuff I have heard. Donīt much like quite a bit of "modern" music either. Most of the music I listen to, you will never have heard of, so it is pointless mentioning it. Many of my CDīs were produced by small obscure private labels, specialising in various types of folk music. What are "Sooners"? TL MC All good stuff- and a good start as well, but let me edeecate ya'll on the folks that really defined country music. It all started back in the 1920s with the minstrel shows, which led to the popularity of the hillbilly string bands. Probably ya'll have all heard Jimmie Rodgers, Roy Acuff, Tom Ashley, and Uncle Dave Macon- all very important in the history of early country music. However, the first folks to actually record and popularize country music were "Fiddlin" John Carson, with his recording of Cluck Old Hen, in 1923, and Eck Robertson with his recording of Sallie Gooden, in 1922. These were the first country music recordings, and Fiddlin John Carson has been attributed with revolutionizing the role of Old Time fiddling. We can thank Ralph Peer and Tennessee for givin us these folks recordings. And don't forget the Carter Family..... Also, I agree that today's "country" SUCKS Snakefiddler- to steal a line from Wolfgang- class dismissed ;-) IF you know so much who recorded the first million selling record and what was it? Did your ever see the "Story of Engiish" the Bill Moyers series. He trace the langeuage from the UK to the US via the scotch-irish migration. He played songs from modern day Scotland etc and there equivalent in the US. Some of the blue grass and folk tune hardly changed except you could understand the words in the bluegrass or folk version. Sometimes when i linten to "Thisle and Shamrock" you can hear songs you know but the titles and words may be a wee bit different. |
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"BJ Conner" wrote in message om... "snakefiddler" wrote in message ... "Mike Connor" wrote in message ... "B J Conner" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... SNIP One of Lefty Frizzel biggest hits was "If you got the money honey I got the time". I am sure you have heard that. Have you heard of Hank Snow? "I've Been Everywhere, I'm Moving On, The Golden Rocket etc", Hank Williams- "Your Cheating Heart", "Jambalaya", "Cold Cold Heart", "I Saw The Light" etc. I have a lot the guys above as well as Tex Ritter and Hank Thompson , these guys defined country music as far as I'm concerened. They were recording great songs long before some of the disco singer with cowboy hats were kicking the slats out of their craddles. Hank Thompson recorded "Oklahoma Hills" a song that is more of an anthem than "Okie from Muskogee" is for Okies and Sooners, the best version was recorded by Gene Autry. I have heard of and also heard some of them. Hank Snow of course, Tex Ritter, Hank Williams, Johnny Russell, Hank Locklin, Jim Reeves, Wink Martindale, and a host of others. Never heard (of) Hank Thompson, or Gene Autry (Except as a film star. Was he "the singing cowboy"?), or Lefty Frizzel, as far as I am aware. Donīt know the song you mentioned either. I do like some of the Ladies, most especially Patsy Cline ( Sp?), Tammy Wynette ( Sp), Lynn Anderson, and quite a few more, I have a few CDīs of these ( "Best Ofīs, Collections, etc), and quite a few old LPīs which I will probably never listen to again. They have been in a cupboard for the last fourteen years, since I moved house last time. They were not used for quite a while before that either. I always meant to get them on to digital media, but never got around to doing it. I still have a record player, but donīt use it any more. Indeed I like quite a large number. Donīt much like much of the modern stuff I have heard. Donīt much like quite a bit of "modern" music either. Most of the music I listen to, you will never have heard of, so it is pointless mentioning it. Many of my CDīs were produced by small obscure private labels, specialising in various types of folk music. What are "Sooners"? TL MC All good stuff- and a good start as well, but let me edeecate ya'll on the folks that really defined country music. It all started back in the 1920s with the minstrel shows, which led to the popularity of the hillbilly string bands. Probably ya'll have all heard Jimmie Rodgers, Roy Acuff, Tom Ashley, and Uncle Dave Macon- all very important in the history of early country music. However, the first folks to actually record and popularize country music were "Fiddlin" John Carson, with his recording of Cluck Old Hen, in 1923, and Eck Robertson with his recording of Sallie Gooden, in 1922. These were the first country music recordings, and Fiddlin John Carson has been attributed with revolutionizing the role of Old Time fiddling. We can thank Ralph Peer and Tennessee for givin us these folks recordings. And don't forget the Carter Family..... Also, I agree that today's "country" SUCKS Snakefiddler- to steal a line from Wolfgang- class dismissed ;-) IF you know so much who recorded the first million selling record and what was it? Did your ever see the "Story of Engiish" the Bill Moyers series. He trace the langeuage from the UK to the US via the scotch-irish migration. He played songs from modern day Scotland etc and there equivalent in the US. Some of the blue grass and folk tune hardly changed except you could understand the words in the bluegrass or folk version. Sometimes when i linten to "Thisle and Shamrock" you can hear songs you know but the titles and words may be a wee bit different. Nope, I don't know who had the first million selling record, but I can speak on the old English and Scottish ballads that you mention. The immigrants brought all those songs over all them years ago, as you know. And since a good number of the Scots-Irish and English immigrants continued from Pennsylvania along the Old Wagon road into Southern Appalachia, the ballads found a fairly isolated home here until Cecil Sharpe, Maude Karples, Frances Child and another woman, who's name escapes me now, traveled into the mountains of Appalachia for the purpose of "collecting" them. Frances Child collected 305 ballads, categorized them according to a set standards of characteristics and numbered them. These became known as the Child ballads. One of the various qualities that define a ballad, and I won't list all of them-(you're welcome :) ), is that there must exist variations in title and lyrics, and they must have been transmitted orally. So that would explain why you may hear the different variations on the same song. Until these ballads were collected and written down, they were transmitted orally and aurally, which naturally results in variation. Interestingly- well to some of us- Cecil Sharpe collected about 200 ballads from a local Beech Mountain woman here in the part of North Carolina in which I reside. Her name is Jane Hicks Gentry, and is part of the storytelling Hicks family, who's stories are housed in the Library of Congress, as are Ms. Gentry's songs. All of this material was transmitted orally from generation to generation. Ya, I enjoy the Thistle and Shamrock too :-) it's a great show Snake |
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From: "Mike Connor" "George Adams" schrieb im Newsbeitrag Given his soft styling of ballads, it doubtful he recorded "Saginaw, Michigan", but I had no idea Jimmy Dean wrote "Okie From Muskogie", so what do I know? I have forgotten, or never really knew some of these things. I have never heard of Lefty Frizzel for instance. "Country and western", ( meaning practically everything from America which was not "Pop" at the time) Mike, my comment wasn't intended as a dig regarding your knowledge of American music. According to a preceeding post, I didn't know it, but Jimmy Dean actually did have a hand in writing "Okie From Muskogee". George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
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From: "snakefiddler"
And don't forget the Carter Family..... Or Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers. I can't remember the name of the guy that recorded "The Prisoner's Song", ("If I had the wings of an angel"), but I understand that was the first "crossover" country/pop hit. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
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BJ Conner wrote IF you know so much who recorded the first million selling record and what was it? ooh, ooh, can i play? vern dalhart's rendition of "the wreck of the old '97. Did your ever see the "Story of Engiish" the Bill Moyers series. He trace the langeuage from the UK to the US via the scotch-irish migration. pity that he didn't seek you out, bj; no doubt you would have enjoyed more than just 15 minutes of fame. wayno |
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message ... BJ Conner wrote IF you know so much who recorded the first million selling record and what was it? ooh, ooh, can i play? vern dalhart's rendition of "the wreck of the old '97. Did your ever see the "Story of Engiish" the Bill Moyers series. He trace the langeuage from the UK to the US via the scotch-irish migration. pity that he didn't seek you out, bj; no doubt you would have enjoyed more than just 15 minutes of fame. wayno ooh, you're good uncle wayno- .......first recorded by henry whitter and g.b. grayson, who came out of fries, va.; a great song based on a real life tragedy. didn't know that it was the first million selling record. i have a feeling though, that it was someone else's (other than henry's, vern's or gb's) recording that hit that mark. think i'll look it up. another great train song- *the longest train i ever saw*, based on the scofield coal mine disaster of 1900, in which 200 people were killed. Snake |
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http://shumans.com/digital-music/?p=1
"1910 Electrical recording was in the experimental stage. Paul Whiteman and his Orchestra produced the first million seller 'Japanese Sandman' and began a major popular music craze that boosted the industry throughout the decade." I would have thought that the million mark would have come a decade or so later. But this seems to indicate otherwise. -- Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69 Drowning flies to Dark Star http://web.tampabay.rr.com/stevglo/i...age92kword.htm |
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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message ... BJ Conner wrote IF you know so much who recorded the first million selling record and what was it? ooh, ooh, can i play? vern dalhart's rendition of "the wreck of the old '97. Did your ever see the "Story of Engiish" the Bill Moyers series. He trace the langeuage from the UK to the US via the scotch-irish migration. pity that he didn't seek you out, bj; no doubt you would have enjoyed more than just 15 minutes of fame. wayno looks like the *million selling* recording of that song came from an opera singer by the name of vernon delhart- go figure? Snake |
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On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 21:31:32 +0100, "Mike Connor"
wrote: I have forgotten, or never really knew some of these things. I have never heard of Lefty Frizzel for instance. "Country and western", ( meaning practically everything from America which was not "Pop" at the time), was not all that popular in England then, and I have not heard all that much of Aw c'mon Mike. Surely it was. Many of us in the US remember being bombarded by tv commercials years ago about how Slim Whitman was the King of Country in the UK.G I'd never heard of him myself nor knew anyone who had but reading his internet bio he'd had some success there. Also in his bio was this little gem. "In 1996, Whitman's name was made known to younger audiences in the movie Mars Attacks! - after failing to destroy the evil, marauding Martian invaders with nuclear strikes, it is discovered that their brains explode upon hearing any Slim Whitman recording." Which simply confirms my Martian ancestry.G it since. My priorities shifted to other things. I always wanted to get some more bluegrass and one or two other things, just to listen to, but I never did get much. It is hard to obtain some things here anyway. Doubtless I could now use the net if I really wanted to. Mainly I concentrated on folk music, mostly from the UK. During our folk craze in the 50's fortunately the English/Irish/Scottish roots of American folk music were acknowledged and we have never lost sight of it. Following the origins, myths & music from the hills of Virginia, North Carolina & Georgia is perhaps one of the most delightful journeys into the settlement of America one could have. Kiyu |
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