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Wayne Harrison wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Daisy Mae, if you haven't figured it out by now, there is at
least one person on this newsgroup who knows that you are as
phony as a ten dollar Rolex and not nearly as valuable.

well, bud, i can assure you that i have met both you and her. and i can
say without a doubt that she is far less phony than you are.

Dear, sweet, poet/lawyer hopeless romantic friend of mine, you adore
women. You adore the smile of a woman, the gaze of a woman, the
scent of a woman and most of all the intriguing possibilities of a
woman.

In short, your judgment sucks.

It'd take you ten years and three Mercedes to discern half of what
I can pick up from ten Usenet posts and you'd STILL be half-assed
smitten after all that.

Save your assurances for someone who doesn't know you quite so well.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
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Wayne Harrison wrote:

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
Daisy Mae, if you haven't figured it out by now, there is at
least one person on this newsgroup who knows that you are as
phony as a ten dollar Rolex and not nearly as valuable.

well, bud, i can assure you that i have met both you and her. and i
can
say without a doubt that she is far less phony than you are.

Dear, sweet, poet/lawyer hopeless romantic friend of mine, you adore
women. You adore the smile of a woman, the gaze of a woman, the
scent of a woman and most of all the intriguing possibilities of a
woman.

In short, your judgment sucks.

Hmmm....the judgement of a man who loves women or the judgement of a man who
hates everything. Damn, yet another easy choice.


It'd take you ten years and three Mercedes to discern half of what
I can pick up from ten Usenet posts and you'd STILL be half-assed
smitten after all that.

While you and rdean might have picked up on an apparent personality quirk or
two of s-, what is most interesting is not your facile observations, but
rather your juvenile reaction to them. No matter how much pigtail pulling
and name calling you engage in, you'll never be able to hide your own
repugnant personality nor will it change the fact that you'd be the last one
picked for the team.

Now, why don't you go write the following line 100 times: "No matter how
much an elite loser someone is, they can still enjoy fly-fishing -- and that
includes me."

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On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 21:14:56 -0600, Willi wrote:



snakefiddler wrote:



now see, if one of the guys made a request for a fellow roffian to show him
how to tie a knot, i'm pretty sure it would have been met with a response
similar to something like, "yeah sure, i'll show ya at the next clave,or if
whatever next fishin event we attend."
but when i make a similar request, it is met with such silliness, and
disdain, as was offered up by forty- what gives?



I don't believe it's because you're a woman (well it is but not JUST
because of that). At least as I read it, you "flirt" at times. I think
what you're seeing is a natural response to that. Cyli, for example,
doesn't flirt and she gets a different type of response than you do.

Willi



I learned well and have had many years to do so. In '87 I started
using local BBSes, which were almost as much filled with males as this
newsgroup is. Only most of them were testosterone filled teens /
early twenties or very lonely (often for good reason) computer geeks.
I knew what I was getting into and tried to avoid both trying to be a
sex object (there were some fairly dandy young female specimens on
there, so it's just as well) or a mommy type. That was back when
local BBSes frequently met en masse at picnics and all night
restaurants, so it could get tricky.

So I still try never to do an intentional double entendre' (I get low
scores on the judges for them, anyway.) or anything leading. Even now
that I'm working on becoming a complete crone. Which beats being seen
as the grand motherly type. It doesn't matter that the males on here
tend to be mature and have a wife or SO. It's become a habit. And I,
unlike snakefiddler, am over shelf life for that sort of thing unless
I move to Florida and a retirement community, where I'd still be seen
as relatively young by horny 80 year olds.

Having been married for 40 years has blunted my my interest in
flirting, too...

But, lordy, do any of us really think that if snake shows up at a
Clave she's going to be running around trying to find bed partners?
Or is it more likely that she'd bat her eyelashes and say something
cute if someone handed her a dozen flies? It's a slightly different
response than most guys would give or that I would give, but harmless.

--
Men tend to be binary. Women tend to be analog. Sometimes what men
see as a green light is one. Sometimes it's just a woman fine tuning
her bright / dimmer switch or running through the colour wheel to
coordinate with her mood.

--

rbc:vixen,Minnow Goddess,Willow Watcher,and all that sort of thing.
Often taunted by trout.
Only a fool would refuse to believe in luck. Only a damn fool would rely on it.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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"Wayne Harrison" wrote in message
. com...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
snakefiddler wrote:

if you haven't figured it out by now, fortenberry, i am nothing, if
not
genuine.....

Daisy Mae, if you haven't figured it out by now, there is at
least one person on this newsgroup who knows that you are as
phony as a ten dollar Rolex and not nearly as valuable.

--
Ken Fortenberry

well, bud, i can assure you that i have met both you and her. and i
can
say without a doubt that she is far less phony than you are.



well, forty, no one who meets me at a clave, or wherever, will ever have to
say, "but really, she's not like that when ya fish with her"- a phrase i
have heard in reference to you on numerous occasions.......
tends to leave one a little confused. as to whom is the phony one. :-(

snakefiddler- will the real fortenberry please stand up?

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"Willi" wrote in message
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tmon wrote:

From: (Willi)

I don't believe it's because you're a woman (well it is but not JUST
because of that). At least as I read it, you "flirt" at times. I think
what you're seeing is a natural response to that. Cyli, for example,
doesn't flirt and she gets a different type of response than you do.

So Cyli has a different personality than Snake. Are you defending some
of these responses to her questions? She seems to have a genuine
interest in FF and appears to be a good hearted soul, which is good
enough for me.


I think this thread is a typical Roffian one in that it wanders all over
the place and has some little jokes in it but it also provides some very
good information mixed in.

Rule out Fortenberry. He is an equal opportunity asshole. He does have
his favorites and snakefiddler is a current "favorite". I was referring
more to the responses like Tim's. It seemed light hearted, funny and
wasn't mean spirited. It was, to me, a logical response to
snakefiddler's "flirting."


For my 2-cents worth, I am absolutely loving this thread! Its really
striking right to the heart of roff, online personalities, hot topics and
newbie assimilation. I don't rule out Fortenberry, EOA or not; more often
than not I read his posts and have to admit that I sure wish I had the balls
to stand up and say what he says, since it is often (at least in part) how I
feel about some things. I'm glad he's here, and I always look forward to his
next barb and the reaction it brings.
But I also gotta take Snake at face value, as it was only a few years ago
that *I* (or should I say, "little ol' me") was posting rather elementary
questions about rather well discussed issues, like whether or not thrashing
the water makes the stockies think its feeding time, or what the hell does a
'good cast' look like. IF she is playing us all for rubes, she's awfully
damn good at it for a simple cartoon character from Dogpatch. What was that
line from 'The Sting"..? The best sting is when the rube doesn't even know
he's been stung.
Glad to have you here, Dais....uh, snake. :-)

This whole thing is GREAT!

--riverman
(... as is this honking bottle of ice-cold Heineken I am slurping down here
at Schipol airport in Amsterdam. g)

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This whole thing is GREAT!

--riverman
(... as is this honking bottle of ice-cold Heineken I am slurping down here
at Schipol airport in Amsterdam. g)

Been there and I'm betting that the cost of the beer was about equal to
half the cost of the plane ticket.


--
Frank Reid
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"Frank Reid" wrote in message
...
This whole thing is GREAT!

--riverman
(... as is this honking bottle of ice-cold Heineken I am slurping down
here
at Schipol airport in Amsterdam. g)

Been there and I'm betting that the cost of the beer was about equal to
half the cost of the plane ticket.


Not yet, but I'm working on it.

--rivvvvermannnnn ha ha ha ha ha :-)

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"Tim J." wrote in message
news:IdOyc.36215$HG.21311@attbi_s53...

IMHO, tying tools should be used only after you master all the knots by
hand
first. If you become reliant on a tool and then don't have it with you
some
time, it could ruin a trip.
--
TL,
Tim
http://css.sbcma.com/timj



I agree- I at least as bad as anybody on the gearwhore trail- but I figure
you gots to be able to tie your knots- without another damn tool.--I do
nearly sucumb to temptation for blood knot tools- but so far I've been able
to deny myself.

I use a loop to loop for line to backing (can't remember what its called but
the loops are made by pulling the line core into itself, like a Chinese
finger toy-- no bumps- no lumps)

line to butt- needle knot

butt to leader- loop to loop (perfection)

leader to tippet - blood knot

tippet to fly - improved clinch


jh

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...

...the fella at
app anglers did tell me to wet my knots before pulling them. he
wetted them
with saliva.

Fortunately, it doesn't have to be HIS saliva. Just about any will
work.

Wolfgang

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"JR" wrote in message
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...Put a Leader Link on the end of your line (you only need to know
how to
tie an overhand knot), and a leader into the other end of the Leader
Link (another overhand knot) http://tinyurl.com/38mga...

A word of caution. Some leaders have a fairly small diameter butt.
Always test the connection before fishing. Pull hard with one hand on
the line and one on the leader. In the case of small diameter leader
butts, they will sometimes pull through. If this happens, use a
figure eight instead of the overhand knot. A compressed figure eight
is larger than a simple overhand. With exceptionally fine leaders
I've sometimes had to resort to tying an overhand knot on top of the
figure eight.

Wolfgang