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"Jeff Miller" wrote in message news:_n5Nd.10272

i do recall...but you also carried enough weight in your backpack to cause
those boots to sink into the rockface.

One does have to use one's weight to one's advantage, and since I can't
throw my weigh around, I utilize gravity.

i noted your skidding on the rock a couple of times too.

That wasn't skiddin'! That was me practicin' what it would be like, if I
was to skid off a rock and almost bust my ass. I would have thought an
astute individual, like yourself, would have been able to tell the
difference? Guess I was wrong.

the worst fall i've ever had, one which broke a bone in my elbow, was on
our trip on upper that day we tried to reach the falls...i was on a
relatively dry, sloping rockface and i was wearing my studded chotas.

Your memory doesn't sever you well! The rocks were as wet as... wet rocks
can be in an all day drizzlin' rain. You old guyz sure are forgetful. I
remember your fall, as I had begged you to follow me on the other side of
the big-assed rock. You did hit pretty hard though. :~^( Sorry about the
elbow!

i suspect i'm as agile as chuck, but not as nimble or strong as you, hence
my recommendation.

It's not so much an agility thing, as it is knowing how to fall properly--I
learn that from my karate instructor. Apparently, I was the best faller he
ever instructed. I never learned much karate, but I was one hell of a floor
mop.

You remember our first meeting, when I said, "this way boyz!' and proceeded
to splash down in the middle of the stream? Yeah, that's nimble alright.

And as far as strong. I recall a fella climbin' up and over the cable
crossin', and I weren't me. I use the cable crossin' just because I ain't
strong enough to climb them there mountain sides.

Anyway, you and Charlie are right about hard rocks and studs, but I have
found the studs to be more beneficial that dangerous, for my fishin'. To
each his own.

Mark --lookin' forward to another trip down the GT and up to the Falls.--

jeff

"JR" wrote in message
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OK then. Even without checking a geology text for the representativeness
of the NC/MT/WI/MI (and SJ, NM) rocks, I guess I'm sold.....

JR (sorry about semi-hijacking your thread, Chuck)

After suggesting the Chotas, before you buy you might want to look at the
convertible shoe Korkers is selling. I looked at them at the Chicago Fly
Show today, very interesting. If I didn't have two perfectly good pairs of
wading shoes, I would be tempted to try them myself.

Base shoe comes with a hiking boot sole and a felt sole, there is a studded
felt and studded rubber sole available. Soles fit snuggly into the shoe and
change easily. Looks like you would hike, stop streamside and change soles,
fish, then put the hiking sole back on for the walk out. They had two
models, one costing about 80 and the other about 125 or so. Both looked like
decent boots.

Conan The librarian wrote:snip In your opinion, is the Little River worth a
trip to fish?

I have caught fish there, but that river feels different from those in North
Carolina. More of a large river feel for The Little River. I would suggest not
bothering with a second state license on your first trip to the area and
concentrate the fishing on those little North Carolina streams where it looks
like God put down a little bit of heaven so we could see what it looks
like...'cept for rhotohell of course.

This sure has been a fun thread. Wayne Knight reminded me in one of his posts
about The Tellico River. One time when I went to North Carolina, I drove along
The Tellico and made a mental note that it sure would be fun to fish it
sometime. Perhaps on one of these trips I will spend more time in Tenn. and
fish The Little River more thoroughly as well as The Tellico and I will finaly
go to that mussle car museum that I have always wanted to go to in
Sevierville(sp).

Big Dale

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:38:09 -0500, Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:29:53 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:

But still the best place for fatback and grits for breakfast on that side of
the hill

They do make a good breakfast, but their wine list is equestrian at best.

Ah - so you saying that their "wine list" consists of a single beer -
Budweiser..."an amusing little, uh, 'brew' - starts with a hint of
plywood and has an oat and Absorbine finish...well-paired with kidneys,
or gelatine desserts..."

"Big Dale" wrote in message
...

I have caught fish there, but that river feels different from those in
North
Carolina. More of a large river feel for The Little River. I would suggest
not
bothering with a second state license on your first trip to the area and

Within the park boundaries, he would not need a TN License, the NC license
would suffice, and vice versa.

Jeff Miller wrote:

for the most part, and for the best fishing, the hiking will be in and
along the stream...not on a trail beside the stream... those flies will
work well, but take some ehc also.

Do you use the standard EHC tie? I've been reading some sources
that recommend a black or chartreuse bodied caddis. I've also tied up a
few woodchuck caddis just for fun. I really like the look of the 'chuck
wing on these flies; just hope the fishies do too.

i don't like studded shoes in nc streams. too much dry rock face
jumping, climbing, etc...studs make it more difficult. stick with felts.

After reading this and all the other responses on the subject, I've
got Chotas with removeable studs on order.

[waders]

i'd take them along just in case. i prefer wet wading. feels freer,
cleaner, simpler. but, when you want to be dry, well, the waders are
nice to have.

I also prefer wet-wading. Heck, I almost have to ... we get about
three months a year where waders are comfortable. :-} But I'll pack
them just in case.

snowbird and buffalo are on the south side of lake santeetlah and
robbinsville...about a 15-20 minute drive to robbinsville, 40-45 minutes
to bryson city, which is northwest of robbinsville and on the east edge
of fontana lake. depending on the streams you intend to focus on, your
location will have some importance as far as convenience and travel
time. stecoah is midway between robbinsville and bryson city, and the
home of tootie's. i'll let wayno introduce the program on tootie's,
though it's a bit more cosmopolitan nowadays than his stories will
represent. you'll have to drive 30 minutes for most streams if you stay
in stecoah.

I think I'll go with the Snowbird location then. For me it's not
just the convenience of driving, but also what I'll go back to at night.
A place on the Snowbird just sounds awfully tempting (plus the
Snowbird around the Junction is probably the first place I want to fish).

happy to help any way i can. let me know if you have any other questions.

Will do. And thanks also to all of the rest of the ROFFians who
offered advice. I got some really great info on this thread.

Chuck Vance

Wayne Knight wrote:

Conan the Librarian wrote:

I've been thinking about just
buying some of the Chotas with felt and removeable studs.

great boots, you will be happy with them

I need more gear anyhow. :-)

i likes how you think

IIRC, you also do some woodworking, no? (Or is that the other
Wayne?) Chuck's First Rule of Wooddorking: Each new project requires
the purchase of a new tool.

I think a similar approach works with flyfishing trips.

Chuck Vance (tool slut)