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rw December 9th, 2005 01:22 AM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
William Claspy wrote:

I should hit up someone in Mechanical Engineering or Materials and see if
they can put together a class on bamboo rod mechanics.


I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering from CWRU. They didn't cover
bamboo in the classes I took. In any case, bamboo rod mechanics is no
different from any-other-material rod mechanics. Just get the parameters
right. Of course, somewhere along the line, you'll lose the mystical,
magical, ineffable 'booness of bamboo, which cannot be expressed in an
equation. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Wayne Knight December 9th, 2005 04:48 AM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 

wrote in message
...
On 7 Dec 2005 14:19:25 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:

I'm not trying to get another this way versus that way sub-thread
started, but I have a couple of questions:

When you say "plug cutter drill bit," are you referring to the
thick-walled tool used to cut plugs to be popped out of a block of wood
for, for example, covering screw/bolt counterbore holes?


How about a yes but, not all of them are thick walled, i have a specialty
set that is very fine walled and not meant to drill any wood thicker than a
good laminate. They were made in Europe and were a barter with the
birkenstock guy.


Do you mean mortising, rather than tenon, bit/chisel, or ???


It is called a tenon bit but the use is basically similar. However these are
also used to make dowel pins.

IAC, if you need to do this again, and don't want to do it right G,


Why do something if you don't want to do it the correct way? otherwise I'll
do my stuff the left way thank you very much :)

maybe try a SH-A-A-RP!! Forstner bit, by hand, on the handle, with the
handle blocked in a vice or similar (just to hold it steady - it
shouldn't take much pressure). Then either sand down the wine cork with
it chucked in a drill (not my choice, for several reasons) or cut a plug
from a ring.


I guess you could do it with a forstner bit but I'm not going to try. And
why do it by hand drill and vice when I have a perfectly good drill press
and clamp system?

After my daughter unwraps her Christmas present and learns to use it, I will
take a picture of a rod I did that to and post it to abpf.

Wayne




Conan The Librarian December 9th, 2005 01:09 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 11:55:12 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

Hmmm ... "with any great success" implies that you have seen them
done and seen them fail. Is that so?


Hmmm...if you were concerned about that little tidbit of info, it might
have been a little better to ask about it early on - as always, YMMV...


My only concern is seeing if you actually have any firsthand
knowledge, or are just engaging in so much handwaving.

TC,
R
...and BTW, yes. And I've tried a variety of methods to repair handles
and grips, learning in the process that there is usually a reason why
the "preferred methods" are generally, well, er, preferred (admittedly
not _always_ absolutely)...but, hey, ask Frank Reid about his buddy in
the tails and TnCs...


So you have tried an insert? Yes or no? If so, please decribe how
you went about it.


Chuck Vance

Conan The Librarian December 9th, 2005 01:22 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:29:00 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

He's referring to a bit that cuts a round "tenon" on the end of a
piece of wood. They're useful for chairmaking and a few other workshop
tasks.


Assuming you are correct, and he did mean tenon cutter,


What else do you think he meant?


Chuck Vance

[email protected] December 9th, 2005 01:49 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 23:48:10 -0500, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On 7 Dec 2005 14:19:25 -0800, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:

I'm not trying to get another this way versus that way sub-thread
started, but I have a couple of questions:

When you say "plug cutter drill bit," are you referring to the
thick-walled tool used to cut plugs to be popped out of a block of wood
for, for example, covering screw/bolt counterbore holes?


How about a yes but, not all of them are thick walled, i have a specialty
set that is very fine walled and not meant to drill any wood thicker than a
good laminate. They were made in Europe and were a barter with the
birkenstock guy.


Ah, so - common, everyday tools.

I guess you could do it with a forstner bit but I'm not going to try. And
why do it by hand drill and vice when I have a perfectly good drill press
and clamp system?


You might still try the Forstner bit - that way, no need to dig the cut
plug out of the handle.

After my daughter unwraps her Christmas present and learns to use it, I will
take a picture of a rod I did that to and post it to abpf.


I'd like to see it - please post a pointer when posted.

TC,
R
....and those without hard-to-obtain biopsy tools, European specialty
cutters from birkenstock, Forstner bit sets, etc., might wish to try
either cork dust and appropriate adhesive on small repairs and replacing
one or more rings on larger repairs...those with them, too...

[email protected] December 9th, 2005 01:55 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:22:41 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:29:00 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

He's referring to a bit that cuts a round "tenon" on the end of a
piece of wood. They're useful for chairmaking and a few other workshop
tasks.


Assuming you are correct, and he did mean tenon cutter,


What else do you think he meant?


A specialty variant of thin-walled European cutters...

....and now, just for grins, let's stay with the metric trend and convert
the mic reading on the OD of the aforementioned cutter from thousandths
to mm to fractional inches...

H _T_ H,
R

Tim J. December 9th, 2005 02:04 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
typed:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:22:41 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

wrote:

On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:29:00 -0600, Conan The Librarian
wrote:

He's referring to a bit that cuts a round "tenon" on the end of a
piece of wood. They're useful for chairmaking and a few other
workshop tasks.

Assuming you are correct, and he did mean tenon cutter,


What else do you think he meant?


A specialty variant of thin-walled European cutters...

...and now, just for grins, let's stay with the metric trend and
convert the mic reading on the OD of the aforementioned cutter from
thousandths to mm to fractional inches...


All I know after reading this thread is that, when the time calls for
repair, I'm buyin' a new freakin' rod.
--
TL,
Tim
------------------------
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/



Conan The Librarian December 9th, 2005 02:29 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 
Tim J. wrote:

All I know after reading this thread is that, when the time calls for
repair, I'm buyin' a new freakin' rod.


Priceless. :-)


Chuck Vance

Wayne Knight December 9th, 2005 04:02 PM

Cork filler (need to buy or make)
 

wrote:

...and those without hard-to-obtain biopsy tools, European specialty
cutters from birkenstock, Forstner bit sets, etc., might wish to try
either cork dust and appropriate adhesive on small repairs and replacing
one or more rings on larger repairs...those with them, too...


Did someone say hard to obtain?

thin walled button cutter bits
http://www.shopsmartxpress.com/Ameri...ult.htm?M9.htm

bone marrow biopsy tools?
http://www.jorvet.com/products/css/Catalog_109.html

Probably everyone who fly fishes has one surgical tool in their
possession.



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