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bonefish fly design challenge
On a recent trip to the Bahamas, I'm convinced I saw, at close range,
a world record bonefish: a panic stricken double digit bonefish swam past me no more than 3 feet away, while being chased by another fish that looked twice as big. At first I assumed it (the chaser) must have been a big barracuda. But that fish came within 5 feet, saw me and spooked. I got a good look at it in knee deep water. It was definately a bonefish, and it looked twice the size the itty bitty 10-12 pounder. This got me thinking about big bonefish, as you can imagine. I found a Florida Marine Institute study on bonefish stomach contents. Small bonefish, it turns out, eat mostly insects, various worms and small shrimp. Big bonefish eat mostly bigger crabs--and toadfish. Big (3-4" across) crab flies are hard to tie and nearly impossible to cast. But a toadfish is essentially a sal****er sculpin. They (Toadfish) tend to take on the color of their surroundings (tan to light olive). So, if you want to catch a big bonefish, I think you have to fish the ocean flats (not way back in the mangrove bight) and I think you might want to try fishing with extra-large Toadfish flies. But no such fly exists--unless it's a long tan Clouser maybe. But a 4" Clouser would require a big, extra heavy, hard to cast hook (if you put a 4" tail on a smaller hook, you get too many short strikes, I think). So there's the challenge. How do you design a long but lightweight yet still fast-sinking and easy to cast sculpin (Toadfish) fly? I've got one in the works, that I'll post links to eventually. In the meantime I'd like to see or hear about anything anybody else comes up with too. |
bonefish fly design challenge
Salmo Bytes wrote:
Big (3-4" across) crab flies are hard to tie and nearly impossible to cast. But a toadfish is essentially a sal****er sculpin. They (Toadfish) tend to take on the color of their surroundings (tan to light olive). So, if you want to catch a big bonefish, I think you have to fish the ocean flats (not way back in the mangrove bight) and I think you might want to try fishing with extra-large Toadfish flies. But no such fly exists--unless it's a long tan Clouser maybe. But a 4" Clouser would require a big, extra heavy, hard to cast hook (if you put a 4" tail on a smaller hook, you get too many short strikes, I think). Having never used the setup myself, I can't vouch for its effectiveness (or castability), but it seems to me that if you are concerned about short-strikes, the simplest solution would be to just add a second, trailing hook to your Clouser. Like what the bassfisherbubbas call a "stinger hook". Chuck Vance (or is that unethical?) |
bonefish fly design challenge
Salmo Bytes wrote:
Big (3-4" across) crab flies are hard to tie and nearly impossible to cast. But a toadfish is essentially a sal****er sculpin. They (Toadfish) tend to take on the color of their surroundings (tan to light olive). So, if you want to catch a big bonefish, I think you have to fish the ocean flats (not way back in the mangrove bight) and I think you might want to try fishing with extra-large Toadfish flies. But no such fly exists--unless it's a long tan Clouser maybe. But a 4" Clouser would require a big, extra heavy, hard to cast hook (if you put a 4" tail on a smaller hook, you get too many short strikes, I think). Having never used the setup myself, I can't vouch for its effectiveness (or castability), but it seems to me that if you are concerned about short-strikes, the simplest solution would be to just add a second, trailing hook to your Clouser. Like what the bassfisherbubbas call a "stinger hook". Chuck Vance (or is that unethical?) |
bonefish fly design challenge
Salmo Bytes wrote:
On a recent trip to the Bahamas, I'm convinced I saw, at close range, a world record bonefish: a panic stricken double digit bonefish swam past me no more than 3 feet away, while being chased by another fish that looked twice as big. At first I assumed it (the chaser) must have been a big barracuda. But that fish came within 5 feet, saw me and spooked. I got a good look at it in knee deep water. It was definately a bonefish, and it looked twice the size the itty bitty 10-12 pounder. At Christmas Island there are fish called "milk fish" that look almost exactly like bonefish (you really cannot tell the difference in the water), but they get much bigger. They're impossible to catch. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
bonefish fly design challenge
Salmo Bytes wrote:
On a recent trip to the Bahamas, I'm convinced I saw, at close range, a world record bonefish: a panic stricken double digit bonefish swam past me no more than 3 feet away, while being chased by another fish that looked twice as big. At first I assumed it (the chaser) must have been a big barracuda. But that fish came within 5 feet, saw me and spooked. I got a good look at it in knee deep water. It was definately a bonefish, and it looked twice the size the itty bitty 10-12 pounder. At Christmas Island there are fish called "milk fish" that look almost exactly like bonefish (you really cannot tell the difference in the water), but they get much bigger. They're impossible to catch. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
bonefish fly design challenge
On 3 Dec 2004 07:46:50 -0800, (Salmo Bytes)
wrote: Big bonefish eat mostly bigger crabs--and toadfish. Bruiser caught a nice bonefish in the Keys while stripping a streamer for barracuda. I wonder if the bonefish took it for a toadfish. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries http://www.chocphoto.com/roff |
bonefish fly design challenge
On 3 Dec 2004 07:46:50 -0800, (Salmo Bytes)
wrote: Big bonefish eat mostly bigger crabs--and toadfish. Bruiser caught a nice bonefish in the Keys while stripping a streamer for barracuda. I wonder if the bonefish took it for a toadfish. -- Charlie... http://www.chocphoto.com/ - photo galleries http://www.chocphoto.com/roff |
bonefish fly design challenge
In article ,
says... But no such fly exists--unless it's a long tan Clouser maybe. But a 4" Clouser would require a big, extra heavy, hard to cast hook (if you put a 4" tail on a smaller hook, you get too many short strikes, I think). Try a tube fly. Here's some places to start: http://tubetyer.tripod.com/mysite00/ http://www.flyfishusa.com/flies/stl-wet-tube.html http://www.flyfishusa.com/events/rou...tube-flies.htm Kevin -- reply to: kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu |
bonefish fly design challenge
In article ,
says... But no such fly exists--unless it's a long tan Clouser maybe. But a 4" Clouser would require a big, extra heavy, hard to cast hook (if you put a 4" tail on a smaller hook, you get too many short strikes, I think). Try a tube fly. Here's some places to start: http://tubetyer.tripod.com/mysite00/ http://www.flyfishusa.com/flies/stl-wet-tube.html http://www.flyfishusa.com/events/rou...tube-flies.htm Kevin -- reply to: kevin dot vang at minotstateu dot edu |
bonefish fly design challenge
So there's the challenge. How do you design a long but lightweight
yet still fast-sinking and easy to cast sculpin (Toadfish) fly? Variation on the wool headed sculpin. Sinks, castable, cheap materials, fun to tie. -- Frank Reid Euthanize to reply |
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