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Mike August 28th, 2005 06:20 AM

Good line for spinning reels?
 
What is a good line for a spinning reel. I curently have 12 lb test mono on
my reel and am experiencing some major line twisting in no time at all.....

Mike (PA)



Ken August 28th, 2005 12:57 PM

Hey Mike (PA),

Are you using a quality mono line? If you are, maybe you wound it on your
reel in the wrong direction. If you have access to a boat, let the line out
behind it as your traveling and then reel it back up. That usually gets the
twists out. If that doesn't help, go to a bait shop and have them put your
line on the reel. They will probably put it on using a grinder looking
machine.

If you are not using a quality line, change the line and watch how you reel
it on the reel. Take a few cranks and watch the line. If it twists, lay the
spool over so the line comes off in the opposite direction.

Good luck!

Halon


"Mike" wrote in message
...
What is a good line for a spinning reel. I curently have 12 lb test mono
on my reel and am experiencing some major line twisting in no time at
all.....

Mike (PA)




Bob La Londe August 28th, 2005 03:24 PM


"Mike" wrote in message
...
What is a good line for a spinning reel. I curently have 12 lb test mono
on my reel and am experiencing some major line twisting in no time at
all.....

Mike (PA)


This has been asked so many times I wonder if maybe we shouldn't add it to
the ROFB FAQ

First off spinning reels twist line. No matter what you do you will get
some line twist, however, that being said there are some things you can do.

1. Make sure you put the line on the reel without twisting it. Most guys
lay the spool ont he ground and let the line loop off one side. After a
half dozen cranks they will lower the rod and see if the line twists. If it
does they will turn the spool over.

2. When retrieving close the bail by hand, lift the rod to take up slack,
and then begin reeling.

3. Use the drag properly or learn to back wind. Do not attempt to crank
while the drag is slipping.

4. Rig your baits so they don't spin on retrieve. If they do consider
the use of a high quality ball bearing swivel.

5. Finally if you do get line twist you can get it out by spooling it off
the reel and dragging it behind the boat for a while then reeling it back
in. If that isn't an option you can get most of the twist out on land by
tying a quality swivel on the end of the line and then hooking the swivel
onto a fixed opbject. Then back away keepign the line off the ground. When
you get most of the line off the reel snap the line tight several times
letting it go slightly slack(but not touching the ground) in between each
pull.

6. Believe it or not higher quality lines seem to work better and
accumulate less line twist. I don't know why unles its simply that those
people who spend a little more on line tend to take a little more care when
fishign as well. Ther eis no other reason I can figure for that.


--
Bob La Londe

Win a Tackle Pack
Jig Fishing - Tips and Techniques Contest
Courtesy of Siebler Custom Baits
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers August 29th, 2005 01:31 AM


"Bob La Londe" wrote in message SNIP

This has been asked so many times I wonder if maybe we shouldn't add it to
the ROFB FAQ

First off spinning reels twist line. No matter what you do you will get
some line twist, however, that being said there are some things you can
do.

1. Make sure you put the line on the reel without twisting it. Most guys
lay the spool ont he ground and let the line loop off one side. After a
half dozen cranks they will lower the rod and see if the line twists. If
it does they will turn the spool over.

2. When retrieving close the bail by hand, lift the rod to take up slack,
and then begin reeling.

3. Use the drag properly or learn to back wind. Do not attempt to
crank while the drag is slipping.

4. Rig your baits so they don't spin on retrieve. If they do consider
the use of a high quality ball bearing swivel.

5. Finally if you do get line twist you can get it out by spooling it
off the reel and dragging it behind the boat for a while then reeling it
back in. If that isn't an option you can get most of the twist out on
land by tying a quality swivel on the end of the line and then hooking the
swivel onto a fixed opbject. Then back away keepign the line off the
ground. When you get most of the line off the reel snap the line tight
several times letting it go slightly slack(but not touching the ground) in
between each pull.

6. Believe it or not higher quality lines seem to work better and
accumulate less line twist. I don't know why unles its simply that those
people who spend a little more on line tend to take a little more care
when fishign as well. Ther eis no other reason I can figure for that.


Those are all good tips, however there are just some reels that are highly
prone to line twist. I had a couple of a certain brand that were terrible
for line twist, regardless of what I did. I do know how to set a drag, I
know how to backreel, I use primarily PowerPro line which is fairly twist
tolerable and 90% of the time, I do close the bail by hand and pick up the
slack.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Bob La Londe August 29th, 2005 02:15 AM


"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message SNIP

This has been asked so many times I wonder if maybe we shouldn't add it
to the ROFB FAQ

First off spinning reels twist line. No matter what you do you will get
some line twist, however, that being said there are some things you can
do.

1. Make sure you put the line on the reel without twisting it. Most
guys lay the spool ont he ground and let the line loop off one side.
After a half dozen cranks they will lower the rod and see if the line
twists. If it does they will turn the spool over.

2. When retrieving close the bail by hand, lift the rod to take up
slack, and then begin reeling.

3. Use the drag properly or learn to back wind. Do not attempt to
crank while the drag is slipping.

4. Rig your baits so they don't spin on retrieve. If they do consider
the use of a high quality ball bearing swivel.

5. Finally if you do get line twist you can get it out by spooling it
off the reel and dragging it behind the boat for a while then reeling it
back in. If that isn't an option you can get most of the twist out on
land by tying a quality swivel on the end of the line and then hooking
the swivel onto a fixed opbject. Then back away keepign the line off the
ground. When you get most of the line off the reel snap the line tight
several times letting it go slightly slack(but not touching the ground)
in between each pull.

6. Believe it or not higher quality lines seem to work better and
accumulate less line twist. I don't know why unles its simply that those
people who spend a little more on line tend to take a little more care
when fishign as well. Ther eis no other reason I can figure for that.


Those are all good tips, however there are just some reels that are highly
prone to line twist. I had a couple of a certain brand that were terrible
for line twist, regardless of what I did. I do know how to set a drag, I
know how to backreel, I use primarily PowerPro line which is fairly twist
tolerable and 90% of the time, I do close the bail by hand and pick up the
slack.


I have noticed that spinning reels with a better balance (don't throb on
retrieve)and reels with a large line take up roller seem to be a little
better than others.

--
Bob La Londe

Win a Tackle Pack
Jig Fishing - Tips and Techniques Contest
Courtesy of Siebler Custom Baits
http://www.YumaBassMan.com



Henry Hefner August 29th, 2005 03:43 AM


Bob La Londe wrote:
...... First off spinning reels twist line. No matter what you do you
will get
some line twist, however, that being said there are some things you
can do.......

2. When retrieving close the bail by hand........

OK, I asked about this about a year ago with no takers. I'm a
mechanical kinda guy, and I always have to figure out the mechanics of
how things work. I cannot for the life of me see how closing the bail
by hand reduces line twist over cranking the handle to close the bail.
I have examined very closely how the line is taken up in either
instance, and there is no twist added to the line. I can see advantages
to reel life, or maybe preventing a take-up problem where you have so
much loose line at the reel that it can get tangled in the handle or
the bail, but no line twist. I think this is a myth that someone
started and everybody keeps it alive by beleiving it without checking
for themselves.
Take a spinning reel and paint one side of your line with a marker so
you can see any twisting being added. Open and close the reel both
manually and automatically. Observe the line. There is no difference.


Marty August 29th, 2005 05:49 AM

I've always wondered about the same thing Henry. I've asked the question
before but never received an explanation that was satisfactory.

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
oups.com...

Bob La Londe wrote:
..... First off spinning reels twist line. No matter what you do you
will get
some line twist, however, that being said there are some things you
can do.......

2. When retrieving close the bail by hand........

OK, I asked about this about a year ago with no takers. I'm a
mechanical kinda guy, and I always have to figure out the mechanics of
how things work. I cannot for the life of me see how closing the bail
by hand reduces line twist over cranking the handle to close the bail.
I have examined very closely how the line is taken up in either
instance, and there is no twist added to the line. I can see advantages
to reel life, or maybe preventing a take-up problem where you have so
much loose line at the reel that it can get tangled in the handle or
the bail, but no line twist. I think this is a myth that someone
started and everybody keeps it alive by beleiving it without checking
for themselves.
Take a spinning reel and paint one side of your line with a marker so
you can see any twisting being added. Open and close the reel both
manually and automatically. Observe the line. There is no difference.




Marty August 29th, 2005 05:59 AM


"Mike" wrote in message
...
What is a good line for a spinning reel. I curently have 12 lb test mono

on
my reel and am experiencing some major line twisting in no time at

all.....

I agree with Steve; I've owned perhaps 25 spinning reels and maybe a
half-dozen of them twisted line badly, regardless of what I did.

A good line for a spinning reel has low memory and handles easily. Two lines
that I use that qualify are Trilene XL and Original Stren.

Line problems are minimized when the reel spool has a large diameter
relative to the line size. If you're using 12# on, say, a 2000 size reel,
going to a 4000 might help.

Just last year I discovered that a new reel was one of those that twisted
line. I wanted to continue using that reel, so I followed advice I received
and replaced 10# mono with 14# Fireline. That stuff does not twist, period,
but it is subject to the other problems of loose line and tangles, but
that's easier to control than bad twist.

Good luck.



Bill & Sue August 29th, 2005 11:54 PM

I landed a 36 inch Muskie during the practice for the NWC on 10 lb Power
Pro. It took a LONG time but the line held and I "Got er Done". The rod
was an old fiber glass rod I got in junior high and was restored by our own
"Rodmaker" Dave Norton. The reel was a Mitchel Copperhead.
Doc
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"Mike" wrote in message
...
What is a good line for a spinning reel. I curently have 12 lb test mono
on my reel and am experiencing some major line twisting in no time at
all.....

Mike (PA)




Jim Laumann August 30th, 2005 01:03 AM


Doc

Nice fish - well done!

Jim

On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:54:29 GMT, " Bill & Sue"
wrote:

I landed a 36 inch Muskie during the practice for the NWC on 10 lb Power
Pro. It took a LONG time but the line held and I "Got er Done". The rod
was an old fiber glass rod I got in junior high and was restored by our own
"Rodmaker" Dave Norton. The reel was a Mitchel Copperhead.
Doc
================================================= ===============================

"Mike" wrote in message
...
What is a good line for a spinning reel. I curently have 12 lb test mono
on my reel and am experiencing some major line twisting in no time at
all.....

Mike (PA)





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