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OT The right man for a perilous moment
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:13:52 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: The Washington Post got it right. They absolutely did. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101603436.html Here's the condensed version: "Obama has a very thin resume and no executive experience, but he is the right man because he tells us what we want to hear and gives us feelings up our leg. McCain is the wrong man mainly because he picked Palin, who has a very thin resume and a mere hint of executive experience, and while we (especially our female staff) wish Sarah would let us feel up her leg, McCain doesn't give us guilty white whiny-assed "liberals" the warm-n-fuzzies we hold so very dear..." The problem is that when the "real deal" comes along, if ever, he or she will say what no one is comfortable hearing and ask that people to do difficult things that involve self-sacrifice by every level of socio-economic status, and while it won't sound pleasant, it'll sound exactly like what it is: honest, sensible, correct and proper. The only question is, "will enough people actually listen?" And no, McCain is not that man, either. HTH, R |
OT The right man for a perilous moment
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OT The right man for a perilous moment
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: The Washington Post got it right. They absolutely did. snip The problem is that when the "real deal" comes along, if ever, he or she will say what no one is comfortable hearing and ask that people to do difficult things that involve self-sacrifice by every level of socio-economic status, and while it won't sound pleasant, it'll sound exactly like what it is: honest, sensible, correct and proper. The only question is, "will enough people actually listen?" And the answer is, "Of course not." If a person like that were electable Adlai Stevenson would have been President. And Al Gore. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you supported Nader against Gore in 2000. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
OT The right man for a perilous moment
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rw wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: The problem is that when the "real deal" comes along, if ever, he or she will say what no one is comfortable hearing and ask that people to do difficult things that involve self-sacrifice by every level of socio-economic status, and while it won't sound pleasant, it'll sound exactly like what it is: honest, sensible, correct and proper. The only question is, "will enough people actually listen?" And the answer is, "Of course not." If a person like that were electable Adlai Stevenson would have been President. And Al Gore. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you supported Nader against Gore in 2000. You're slightly wrong. Gore had Illinois sewn up so I *voted* for the Green Party candidate hoping that the Greens could meet the 5% threshold for inclusion on future ballots without petitions. That didn't happen but Gore did take Illinois easily. So you're claiming that you didn't really support Nader even though you voted for him? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
OT The right man for a perilous moment
rw wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote: rw wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you supported Nader against Gore in 2000. You're slightly wrong. Gore had Illinois sewn up so I *voted* for the Green Party candidate hoping that the Greens could meet the 5% threshold for inclusion on future ballots without petitions. That didn't happen but Gore did take Illinois easily. So you're claiming that you didn't really support Nader even though you voted for him? I'm claiming that I voted for the Green Party candidate. Not only did I not expect Nader to win, I would have been appalled had he done so. So yeah, I voted for his party but I didn't support him. This is all about ballot access and electoral math, feel free to use a calculator if you're having trouble understanding the concept. -- Ken Fortenberry |
OT The right man for a perilous moment
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:13:03 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: The Washington Post got it right. They absolutely did. snip The problem is that when the "real deal" comes along, if ever, he or she will say what no one is comfortable hearing and ask that people to do difficult things that involve self-sacrifice by every level of socio-economic status, and while it won't sound pleasant, it'll sound exactly like what it is: honest, sensible, correct and proper. The only question is, "will enough people actually listen?" And the answer is, "Of course not." If a person like that were electable Adlai Stevenson would have been President. And Al Gore. Al "Gulfstream V" Gore?! Al "Hey, my huge-assed house isn't THAT big and besides, what with "green" technology, our daily consumption is only a little more than an Obama speech at a stadium" Gore?! Al "Do as I say, not as I do" Gore?! _That_ Al Gore?! South Park got it right. "PIGBEARMAN! PIGBEARMAN!...where's my cape?" and of course "...thi tuk mah ja-a-ab..." IAC, I can put the lid on Go Madonna agrees with everything he says...QED. As to Adlai Stevenson, I'm pretty sure he won't be announcing his campaign for anything in the foreseeable future... HTH, R |
OT The right man for a perilous moment
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:52:30 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: rw wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: rw wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you supported Nader against Gore in 2000. You're slightly wrong. Gore had Illinois sewn up so I *voted* for the Green Party candidate hoping that the Greens could meet the 5% threshold for inclusion on future ballots without petitions. That didn't happen but Gore did take Illinois easily. So you're claiming that you didn't really support Nader even though you voted for him? I'm claiming that I voted for the Green Party candidate. Not only did I not expect Nader to win, I would have been appalled had he done so. So yeah, I voted for his party but I didn't support him. Oh, now, go easy on him...I mean, Krugman wasn't far off...he's not only like Nixon, he's like Rush Limpdick, too...he should be pitied, not scorned... This is all about ballot access and electoral math, feel free to use a calculator if you're having trouble understanding the concept. Hmmm...I see what you're saying - it's about a fair system with free but honest access, free of corruption and other things that would not only cause objective damage but cause participants to lose faith in it...? Glad I could help, R |
OT The right man for a perilous moment
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
rw wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: rw wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you supported Nader against Gore in 2000. You're slightly wrong. Gore had Illinois sewn up so I *voted* for the Green Party candidate hoping that the Greens could meet the 5% threshold for inclusion on future ballots without petitions. That didn't happen but Gore did take Illinois easily. So you're claiming that you didn't really support Nader even though you voted for him? I'm claiming that I voted for the Green Party candidate. That would have been Ralph Nader; who, by the way, cost Gore the election (with some help from Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris). Nader is running this year, too. Are you voting for him again? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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