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Joe McIntosh September 7th, 2004 12:17 AM

3 questions
 
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns without backcountry
iking] --need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.

Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."

My squaw is away somewhere playing tennis in the rain and rather that wait
for her to type this th9nk i will have a third manhatten and hit send
Indian Joe



Mark Bowen September 7th, 2004 12:31 AM

3 questions
 

"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns without backcountry
iking] --need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.



Clean out the bank accounts, cash in the stocks and bonds, move to NZ and if she don't
follow, refuse to give her a divorce.

Doubt that it's legal or that it would actually work, but when ya gotta go, ya gotta
go!


Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed


?

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."


They live on the sub-continent.

My squaw is away somewhere playing tennis in the rain and rather that wait
for her to type this th9nk i will have a third manhatten and hit send
Indian Joe


On my first PowerADE.

Mark


Mark Bowen September 7th, 2004 12:31 AM

3 questions
 

"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns without backcountry
iking] --need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.



Clean out the bank accounts, cash in the stocks and bonds, move to NZ and if she don't
follow, refuse to give her a divorce.

Doubt that it's legal or that it would actually work, but when ya gotta go, ya gotta
go!


Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed


?

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."


They live on the sub-continent.

My squaw is away somewhere playing tennis in the rain and rather that wait
for her to type this th9nk i will have a third manhatten and hit send
Indian Joe


On my first PowerADE.

Mark


vincent p. norris September 7th, 2004 02:14 AM

3 questions
 
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns.....


Sorry I can't answer your questions, Joe, but I can tell you that when
I was a green-as-grass marine pilot, back in the early '50s, most of
the older guys in the squadron had spent WW II in the Pacific, and
more precisely, had spent R&R leaves in New Zealand. They allo said
it was like heaven on earth.

Of course, they were probably more interested in the young maidens
than the big browns; but in any case, the sea food, Irish pub and
vineyards sure sound inviting!

vince







without backcountry
iking]









--need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.

Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."

My squaw is away somewhere playing tennis in the rain and rather that wait
for her to type this th9nk i will have a third manhatten and hit send
Indian Joe



vincent p. norris September 7th, 2004 02:14 AM

3 questions
 
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns.....


Sorry I can't answer your questions, Joe, but I can tell you that when
I was a green-as-grass marine pilot, back in the early '50s, most of
the older guys in the squadron had spent WW II in the Pacific, and
more precisely, had spent R&R leaves in New Zealand. They allo said
it was like heaven on earth.

Of course, they were probably more interested in the young maidens
than the big browns; but in any case, the sea food, Irish pub and
vineyards sure sound inviting!

vince







without backcountry
iking]









--need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.

Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."

My squaw is away somewhere playing tennis in the rain and rather that wait
for her to type this th9nk i will have a third manhatten and hit send
Indian Joe



Bob Patton September 7th, 2004 02:38 AM

3 questions
 
"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like
San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns without backcountry
iking] --need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.

//snip//

If you think the Bushies will win in November you should move now - US expat
demand for NZ real estate would rise.
:-(

Bob



Bob Patton September 7th, 2004 02:38 AM

3 questions
 
"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like
San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns without backcountry
iking] --need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.

//snip//

If you think the Bushies will win in November you should move now - US expat
demand for NZ real estate would rise.
:-(

Bob



B J Conner September 7th, 2004 04:04 AM

3 questions
 

"bruiser" wrote in message
...

I thought they had real strict import quotas on Americans, like you can't
just pack up and move to NZ...

bruce h


Work out a trade, there are plenty of Kiwis that want to come here.



B J Conner September 7th, 2004 04:04 AM

3 questions
 

"bruiser" wrote in message
...

I thought they had real strict import quotas on Americans, like you can't
just pack up and move to NZ...

bruce h


Work out a trade, there are plenty of Kiwis that want to come here.



bruiser September 7th, 2004 04:51 AM

3 questions
 

I thought they had real strict import quotas on Americans, like you can't
just pack up and move to NZ...

bruce h



bruiser September 7th, 2004 04:51 AM

3 questions
 

I thought they had real strict import quotas on Americans, like you can't
just pack up and move to NZ...

bruce h



GregP September 7th, 2004 03:30 PM

3 questions
 
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:17:29 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:


Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed


I would take a look at these two sites for reference:

http://www.dpreview.com/
http://www.steves-digicams.com/

The first one, IMO, does the best reviews of cameras
anywhere, but does relatively few of them. The second
is not as good but better than most and does quite a
few of them. The first site also has forums where people
get into quirks of individual cameras.



GregP September 7th, 2004 03:30 PM

3 questions
 
On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 23:17:29 GMT, "Joe McIntosh"
wrote:


Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed


I would take a look at these two sites for reference:

http://www.dpreview.com/
http://www.steves-digicams.com/

The first one, IMO, does the best reviews of cameras
anywhere, but does relatively few of them. The second
is not as good but better than most and does quite a
few of them. The first site also has forums where people
get into quirks of individual cameras.



Jeff September 7th, 2004 05:39 PM

3 questions
 


Joe McIntosh wrote:

QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family?


hmm...sounds more like a reason to go than to stay. perhaps a few of
your "close" friends could assist in persuading Dene of the substantial
benefits of residence in New Zealand. g also, knowing Dene, she'll
have numerous friends and plenty of tennis opportunities in a more
favorable and enjoyable climate than Wilmington - without all the
bulging population and traffic problems.



Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed


5 MB is probably overkill for use on the stream unless you're planning
on printing poster size photos - and I don't think the 5 MB cameras are
below 200 yet (though there may be some). I have the Olympus 300, water
resistant. It's fine for most uses, but the controls on the back are a
bit tiny. Invest in a bigger memory card than you typically get with
the camera - a 64k at minimum, 128k is better - so you can take and
store more pictures on those long trips when you are unable to download
the photos to a computer.


Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."


You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry and, from my
personal observation and experience, you are most definitely real. good
enough for me and probably most others of reasonable or normal disposition.





Jeff September 7th, 2004 05:39 PM

3 questions
 


Joe McIntosh wrote:

QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family?


hmm...sounds more like a reason to go than to stay. perhaps a few of
your "close" friends could assist in persuading Dene of the substantial
benefits of residence in New Zealand. g also, knowing Dene, she'll
have numerous friends and plenty of tennis opportunities in a more
favorable and enjoyable climate than Wilmington - without all the
bulging population and traffic problems.



Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed


5 MB is probably overkill for use on the stream unless you're planning
on printing poster size photos - and I don't think the 5 MB cameras are
below 200 yet (though there may be some). I have the Olympus 300, water
resistant. It's fine for most uses, but the controls on the back are a
bit tiny. Invest in a bigger memory card than you typically get with
the camera - a 64k at minimum, 128k is better - so you can take and
store more pictures on those long trips when you are unable to download
the photos to a computer.


Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."


You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry and, from my
personal observation and experience, you are most definitely real. good
enough for me and probably most others of reasonable or normal disposition.





daytripper September 7th, 2004 11:44 PM

3 questions
 
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:39:46 GMT, Jeff wrote:



Joe McIntosh wrote:

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."


You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry and, from my
personal observation and experience, you are most definitely real. good
enough for me and probably most others of reasonable or normal disposition.


Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!

/daytripper (he made some BIG damned clouds, too ;-)

daytripper September 7th, 2004 11:44 PM

3 questions
 
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 16:39:46 GMT, Jeff wrote:



Joe McIntosh wrote:

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."


You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry and, from my
personal observation and experience, you are most definitely real. good
enough for me and probably most others of reasonable or normal disposition.


Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!

/daytripper (he made some BIG damned clouds, too ;-)

Ken Fortenberry September 8th, 2004 12:19 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:
Jeff wrote:
You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry ...


Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!


He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry September 8th, 2004 12:19 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:
Jeff wrote:
You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry ...


Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!


He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.

--
Ken Fortenberry

daytripper September 8th, 2004 01:22 AM

3 questions
 
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:19:33 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
Jeff wrote:
You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry ...


Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!


He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.


Perhaps he was just trying to pass at the time?

/daytripper (And there is that part about reasonable or normal disposition ;-)

daytripper September 8th, 2004 01:22 AM

3 questions
 
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:19:33 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
Jeff wrote:
You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry ...


Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!


He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.


Perhaps he was just trying to pass at the time?

/daytripper (And there is that part about reasonable or normal disposition ;-)

daytripper September 8th, 2004 01:22 AM

3 questions
 
On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:19:33 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
Jeff wrote:
You've indicated you have some part indian ancestry ...


Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!


He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.


Perhaps he was just trying to pass at the time?

/daytripper (And there is that part about reasonable or normal disposition ;-)

Ken Fortenberry September 8th, 2004 01:34 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!


He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.


Perhaps he was just trying to pass at the time?

/daytripper (And there is that part about reasonable or normal disposition ;-)


Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry September 8th, 2004 01:34 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!


He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.


Perhaps he was just trying to pass at the time?

/daytripper (And there is that part about reasonable or normal disposition ;-)


Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.

--
Ken Fortenberry

daytripper September 8th, 2004 02:03 AM

3 questions
 
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:34:53 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!

He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.


Perhaps he was just trying to pass at the time?

/daytripper (And there is that part about reasonable or normal disposition ;-)


Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.


I'm not apologizing for anyone - god knows if I was to apologize for everyone
that uses racial slurs it'd be more than a full time job.

But, in truth, I don't remember hearing IJ speak disparagingly about anyone,
"impolite" vernacular notwithstanding...

/daytripper (just calling it as I sees it. tioli...)

daytripper September 8th, 2004 02:03 AM

3 questions
 
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 00:34:53 GMT, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
daytripper wrote:
Well, I dunno about reasonable or normal disposition, but as far as I'm
concerned anyone that's as quick a study on the ol' peace pipe can call
himself Injun anytime!

He can call himself whatever the hell he wants but unless
Indians have taken to wearing hoods and sheets the so-called
"Indian Joe" ain't no Indian.


Perhaps he was just trying to pass at the time?

/daytripper (And there is that part about reasonable or normal disposition ;-)


Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.


I'm not apologizing for anyone - god knows if I was to apologize for everyone
that uses racial slurs it'd be more than a full time job.

But, in truth, I don't remember hearing IJ speak disparagingly about anyone,
"impolite" vernacular notwithstanding...

/daytripper (just calling it as I sees it. tioli...)

Guyz-N-Flyz September 8th, 2004 02:12 AM

3 questions
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.

--
Ken Fortenberry


"I'd rather trust a countryman than a townman.
You can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can...

I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands.
He looks at you once, you know he understands...

And I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.
I need someone to believe in, someone to trust...

I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found..."


Mark --attribution shouldn't be necessary--







Mark --






Guyz-N-Flyz September 8th, 2004 02:12 AM

3 questions
 

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
om...
Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.

--
Ken Fortenberry


"I'd rather trust a countryman than a townman.
You can judge by his eyes, take a look if you can...

I'd rather trust a man who works with his hands.
He looks at you once, you know he understands...

And I need someone to believe in, someone to trust.
I need someone to believe in, someone to trust...

I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found..."


Mark --attribution shouldn't be necessary--







Mark --






Wolfgang September 8th, 2004 02:35 AM

3 questions
 

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

...I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found..."


Ah, Kennie on the half-shell! The mark of the desultory and/or deficient
reader is an unshakeable conviction that the first.....and therefore almost
certainly the ONLY.....opinion he or she has encountered (and necessarily
and always misunderstood, misconstrued, misinterpreted, and/or just plain
missed) about an issue, opinion, thing, or situation is always necessarily
and absolutely true and unequivocal.

Which explains rather nicely why the dolt STILL doesn't understand the
distinction between an elite and an elitist.

Wolfgang
or between himself and a "real" boy, for that matter. :)



Wolfgang September 8th, 2004 02:35 AM

3 questions
 

"Guyz-N-Flyz" wrote in message
...

...I'd rather trust a man who doesn't shout what he's found..."


Ah, Kennie on the half-shell! The mark of the desultory and/or deficient
reader is an unshakeable conviction that the first.....and therefore almost
certainly the ONLY.....opinion he or she has encountered (and necessarily
and always misunderstood, misconstrued, misinterpreted, and/or just plain
missed) about an issue, opinion, thing, or situation is always necessarily
and absolutely true and unequivocal.

Which explains rather nicely why the dolt STILL doesn't understand the
distinction between an elite and an elitist.

Wolfgang
or between himself and a "real" boy, for that matter. :)



Ken Fortenberry September 8th, 2004 03:45 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.


I'm not apologizing for anyone - god knows if I was to apologize for everyone
that uses racial slurs it'd be more than a full time job.

But, in truth, I don't remember hearing IJ speak disparagingly about anyone,
"impolite" vernacular notwithstanding...

/daytripper (just calling it as I sees it. tioli...)


Well, the 'N' word and the 'S' word are both disparaging
enough for me, "vernacular" notwithstanding. I think the
so-called "Indian Joe" is a full of **** piece of ****.
You can reasonably disagree with piece of ****, but if
you're really calling it as you see it, I don't know how
you could honestly disagree with full of ****.

And yeah, take it or leave it.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry September 8th, 2004 03:45 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Reasonable and normal doesn't include apologia for racists.
You were there and know that he doesn't limit his racial
slurs to Native American women.


I'm not apologizing for anyone - god knows if I was to apologize for everyone
that uses racial slurs it'd be more than a full time job.

But, in truth, I don't remember hearing IJ speak disparagingly about anyone,
"impolite" vernacular notwithstanding...

/daytripper (just calling it as I sees it. tioli...)


Well, the 'N' word and the 'S' word are both disparaging
enough for me, "vernacular" notwithstanding. I think the
so-called "Indian Joe" is a full of **** piece of ****.
You can reasonably disagree with piece of ****, but if
you're really calling it as you see it, I don't know how
you could honestly disagree with full of ****.

And yeah, take it or leave it.

--
Ken Fortenberry

rw September 8th, 2004 06:16 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:

I'm not apologizing for anyone - god knows if I was to apologize for everyone
that uses racial slurs it'd be more than a full time job.

But, in truth, I don't remember hearing IJ speak disparagingly about anyone,
"impolite" vernacular notwithstanding...

/daytripper (just calling it as I sees it. tioli...)


IJ seems like an OK guy to me, even though I sense he doesn't like me
very much. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw September 8th, 2004 06:16 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:

I'm not apologizing for anyone - god knows if I was to apologize for everyone
that uses racial slurs it'd be more than a full time job.

But, in truth, I don't remember hearing IJ speak disparagingly about anyone,
"impolite" vernacular notwithstanding...

/daytripper (just calling it as I sees it. tioli...)


IJ seems like an OK guy to me, even though I sense he doesn't like me
very much. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

rw September 8th, 2004 06:16 AM

3 questions
 
daytripper wrote:

I'm not apologizing for anyone - god knows if I was to apologize for everyone
that uses racial slurs it'd be more than a full time job.

But, in truth, I don't remember hearing IJ speak disparagingly about anyone,
"impolite" vernacular notwithstanding...

/daytripper (just calling it as I sees it. tioli...)


IJ seems like an OK guy to me, even though I sense he doesn't like me
very much. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Clark Reid September 8th, 2004 10:08 PM

3 questions
 
Well Joe,

You'd be more than welcome here but our immigration laws are tough. Not
impossible but tough...

as far as Tennis goes.. try these places for info..
http://www.yellowpages.co.nz/quick/s...ge=search&loc=
9

for immigration try...
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/

The rest I can't help with.

Let me know if you make it... I need an excuse to get to Nelson. I had a
fly-tying display to do there at their fly fishing club last month but the
weather closed the airport and I didn't make it, as the weather warms up
I'll have even more reason to visit that area.

Clark


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like

San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns without backcountry
iking] --need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.

Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying

pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis

the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking

of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by

verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."

My squaw is away somewhere playing tennis in the rain and rather that

wait
for her to type this th9nk i will have a third manhatten and hit send
Indian Joe





Clark Reid September 8th, 2004 10:08 PM

3 questions
 
Well Joe,

You'd be more than welcome here but our immigration laws are tough. Not
impossible but tough...

as far as Tennis goes.. try these places for info..
http://www.yellowpages.co.nz/quick/s...ge=search&loc=
9

for immigration try...
http://www.immigration.govt.nz/

The rest I can't help with.

Let me know if you make it... I need an excuse to get to Nelson. I had a
fly-tying display to do there at their fly fishing club last month but the
weather closed the airport and I didn't make it, as the weather warms up
I'll have even more reason to visit that area.

Clark


"Joe McIntosh" wrote in message
...
New Zealand----giving thought to moving to Nelson New Zealand--sort of a
last fling--the town is on Northern coast of South Island--sort of like

San
Diago 30 years ago--full of sea food old english cathedral an irish
pub --surrounded by vinyards [replacing sheep farms and close where the
Motueka and Baton rivers meet--big browns without backcountry
iking] --need to move fast--the rich californianians are moving in and i
doubt i could get a small plot and house with 5 acres on the Motueka for
less than 150 thousand. QUESTION ONE-- How do I get my bride to give up
tennis five days a week with friends in Wilmington and easy acess to US
bound family ? Divoice is not an option--been thru that and cannot afford
another and this squaw is a keeper.

Didigal camera--now that prices are under 200$ thinking of replacing my
sinkable OLYMPUS --would like to have micro option to use copying

pages
from books etc ant to take pictures when Jeff cathes a fish--Dave Lewis

the
camera whiz on FF@ suggest the new 5 mb olumpis--help and suggestions
needed

Questin Three-- What is a REAL indian ???? Goverment has a rule--creek
indian association has a rule---census bureau has a rule ---was thinking

of
answering Font when he said I was not a real indian but was reminded of a
boss many years ago when i tried to get some attention by

verbulizations--he
said " I would not lower myself by arguring with you."

My squaw is away somewhere playing tennis in the rain and rather that

wait
for her to type this th9nk i will have a third manhatten and hit send
Indian Joe





Mike September 9th, 2004 02:36 AM

3 questions
 
FWIW IJ has the skin tone,high cheekbones and nose of a Native American so i
would say somewhere along the line there was hanky panky going on with a white
person and a Native American... Beside he don't know how to play cards i was
right Joe the card was dead but no hard feelings it's just a game.......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick


Mike September 9th, 2004 02:36 AM

3 questions
 
FWIW IJ has the skin tone,high cheekbones and nose of a Native American so i
would say somewhere along the line there was hanky panky going on with a white
person and a Native American... Beside he don't know how to play cards i was
right Joe the card was dead but no hard feelings it's just a game.......


Handyman Mike
Standing in a river waving a stick


Charlie Choc September 9th, 2004 12:46 PM

3 questions
 
On 09 Sep 2004 01:36:37 GMT, (Mike) wrote:

FWIW IJ has the skin tone,high cheekbones and nose of a Native American so i
would say somewhere along the line there was hanky panky going on with a white
person and a Native American...


I think there is some connection he
http://college.hmco.com/history/read...intoshwill.htm
--
Charlie...


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