Dropshotting
 

What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is....

Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom upto as
tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see drop
shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep
water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig.

However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places where
I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I felt a
more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba
Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook with a
weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My
presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have seen
good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum pitching
distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash into
the tulies if I hooked up a good fish.

Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1
foot of water with great success.

WW
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews...
My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is....

Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom upto
as
tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see drop
shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep
water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig.

However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places
where
I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I felt
a
more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba
Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook with
a
weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My
presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have seen
good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum
pitching
distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash
into
the tulies if I hooked up a good fish.

Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions
or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in 1
foot of water with great success.

WW
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews...
My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is....

Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom upto
as
tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see drop
shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep
water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig.

However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places
where
I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I felt
a
more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba
Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook with
a
weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My
presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have seen
good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum
pitching
distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash
into
the tulies if I hooked up a good fish.

Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions
or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance, use
it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the plastic
of the floating variety?
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in
1
foot of water with great success.

WW



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Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance, use
it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the plastic
of the floating variety?
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in
1
foot of water with great success.

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I've done that too Steve. I'm not sure what you mean by the bobber
stopper/floating plastic. ds is deadly on bedders of both species,
especially in shallow water. I use about a 36" leader for shallow
dropshotting, everything else just the ordinary.

Warren

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance, use
it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the plastic
of the floating variety?
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed
in
1
foot of water with great success.

WW



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I've done that too Steve. I'm not sure what you mean by the bobber
stopper/floating plastic. ds is deadly on bedders of both species,
especially in shallow water. I use about a 36" leader for shallow
dropshotting, everything else just the ordinary.

Warren

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance, use
it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the plastic
of the floating variety?
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed
in
1
foot of water with great success.

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OK, I understand what you mean now. I was thinking you were using a DS rig
with a slider bobber, you know the ones that has the teeny rubber thingie
you slide on the line that is called a "stopper" because the float slides up
and down the line 'till it is "stopped" by the "bobber stopper". This
little rubber thing even comes through the eyes of the rod and lays in on
the spool of the reel. Good killer rig for suspending fish such as the
walleye and sometimes the SMB ;-)
With the floating plastic I was thinking you had the shot only inches away
from the floating plastic bait of some kind.
This weekend I am going to try a new method using the underwater camera,
with an old rod and a quick release attached on the camera end. There are
some huge fish suspending hooks on the graph at fifteen feet, wonder what
type of shotting ya call this? I always say"if at first you don't succeed,
cheat and then give up!" :-)
--
Steve
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I've done that too Steve. I'm not sure what you mean by the bobber
stopper/floating plastic. ds is deadly on bedders of both species,
especially in shallow water. I use about a 36" leader for shallow
dropshotting, everything else just the ordinary.

Warren

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance,
use
it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the
plastic
of the floating variety?
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed
in
1
foot of water with great success.

WW



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OK, I understand what you mean now. I was thinking you were using a DS rig
with a slider bobber, you know the ones that has the teeny rubber thingie
you slide on the line that is called a "stopper" because the float slides up
and down the line 'till it is "stopped" by the "bobber stopper". This
little rubber thing even comes through the eyes of the rod and lays in on
the spool of the reel. Good killer rig for suspending fish such as the
walleye and sometimes the SMB ;-)
With the floating plastic I was thinking you had the shot only inches away
from the floating plastic bait of some kind.
This weekend I am going to try a new method using the underwater camera,
with an old rod and a quick release attached on the camera end. There are
some huge fish suspending hooks on the graph at fifteen feet, wonder what
type of shotting ya call this? I always say"if at first you don't succeed,
cheat and then give up!" :-)
--
Steve
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I've done that too Steve. I'm not sure what you mean by the bobber
stopper/floating plastic. ds is deadly on bedders of both species,
especially in shallow water. I use about a 36" leader for shallow
dropshotting, everything else just the ordinary.

Warren

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
Warren, could you elaborate on that 1' DS method? Did you, by chance,
use
it from a distance on bedded bass with a bobber stopper or was the
plastic
of the floating variety?
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed
in
1
foot of water with great success.

WW



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John wrote:
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or stained,
weeds or gravel, etc

YES!

see article below...

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing/articles/dropshot.html

Dropshotting
 

John wrote:
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or stained,
weeds or gravel, etc

YES!

see article below...

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing/articles/dropshot.html

Dropshotting
 

Ds for bedders. I like that. I have a coule repeat beds picked out for
next season that this might just be the ticket for.

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"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in
1
foot of water with great success.

WW
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews...
My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is....

Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom
upto
as
tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see
drop
shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep
water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig.

However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places
where
I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I
felt
a
more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba
Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook
with
a
weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My
presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have
seen
good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum
pitching
distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash
into
the tulies if I hooked up a good fish.

Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions
or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out
success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

Ds for bedders. I like that. I have a coule repeat beds picked out for
next season that this might just be the ticket for.

--
** FREE Fishing Lures
** Weekly drawing
** Public Fishing and Boating Forums
** www.YumaBassMan.com


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in
1
foot of water with great success.

WW
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews...
My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is....

Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom
upto
as
tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see
drop
shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep
water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig.

However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places
where
I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I
felt
a
more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba
Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook
with
a
weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My
presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have
seen
good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum
pitching
distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash
into
the tulies if I hooked up a good fish.

Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions
or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out
success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

Ds for bedders. I like that. I have a coule repeat beds picked out for
next season that this might just be the ticket for.

--
** FREE Fishing Lures
** Weekly drawing
** Public Fishing and Boating Forums
** www.YumaBassMan.com


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You can ds anywhere you cr, shallow & deep water included. I've ds'ed in
1
foot of water with great success.

WW
"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
news:1095444610.6+sikfEfLm5tfLwY/kq1RA@teranews...
My best guess based on my total lack of skill at the technique is....

Clear to lightly stained with scattered grass growing off the bottom
upto
as
tall as 2 feet. Depth being anywhere there are fish, but I can't see
drop
shotting in really really shallow water. For really really really deep
water I think I would tend to look more at a Carolina rig.

However, there are some exceptions. I might use a drop shot in places
where
I would flip or pitch like standing tulies in 3-6 feet of water if I
felt
a
more finesse presentation would work. Probably go more to a "Bubba
Shotting" type app in those cases using 20lb fluorocarbon and a hook
with
a
weedguard. I might even use a weight with a rattle built in. My
presentation for this would probably be gin clear water where I have
seen
good fish. I would back way off from the tulies to near my maximum
pitching
distance and be prepared to kick my trolling motor upto high and crash
into
the tulies if I hooked up a good fish.

Just some thoughts. Your mileage will vary.

Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com




"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions
or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out
success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing.
According to Yelas, this would give the angler a double shot at the fish at
two different depths and baits and can help determine what the fish want at
a given time. Makes a great search rig, in that anytime the CR weight
contacts some cover, the rig can be held in place and then shake, shake,
shake with the rod tip to really bring the DS bait into action. He demo'd
this rig at the Grand Opening of the Bass Pro shop near here in Shreveport,
La. Looked and really sounded reasonable the way he presented it.
I haven't had the opportunity to try this yet, but plan to in the near
future.
Keep yer fanny dry and yer line wet!
Cheers,
--
Doyce

"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing.
According to Yelas, this would give the angler a double shot at the fish at
two different depths and baits and can help determine what the fish want at
a given time. Makes a great search rig, in that anytime the CR weight
contacts some cover, the rig can be held in place and then shake, shake,
shake with the rod tip to really bring the DS bait into action. He demo'd
this rig at the Grand Opening of the Bass Pro shop near here in Shreveport,
La. Looked and really sounded reasonable the way he presented it.
I haven't had the opportunity to try this yet, but plan to in the near
future.
Keep yer fanny dry and yer line wet!
Cheers,
--
Doyce

"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing.
According to Yelas, this would give the angler a double shot at the fish at
two different depths and baits and can help determine what the fish want at
a given time. Makes a great search rig, in that anytime the CR weight
contacts some cover, the rig can be held in place and then shake, shake,
shake with the rod tip to really bring the DS bait into action. He demo'd
this rig at the Grand Opening of the Bass Pro shop near here in Shreveport,
La. Looked and really sounded reasonable the way he presented it.
I haven't had the opportunity to try this yet, but plan to in the near
future.
Keep yer fanny dry and yer line wet!
Cheers,
--
Doyce

"John C. French" wrote in message
. ..
What are ideal conditions for DS? Such as deep or shallow, clear or
stained,
weeds or gravel, etc. Any info anyone would like to give on conditions or
techniques is appreciated. I have tried several times with out success.

TIA

John C. French

Dropshotting
 

Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

John C. French wrote:

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.

You had better not bet on this one,, you will instantly loose

I CAN PROVE this, it was even in the Boomerang instructions three years
ago, I showed it to every pro at the Guntersville B.A.S.S. Tournament a
couple of years ago, and it was in Bassmaster's magazine (with me) in
June 2001, it's even part of my patent

What more PROOF do you want ?????????????????????????????????

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

John C. French wrote:

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.

You had better not bet on this one,, you will instantly loose

I CAN PROVE this, it was even in the Boomerang instructions three years
ago, I showed it to every pro at the Guntersville B.A.S.S. Tournament a
couple of years ago, and it was in Bassmaster's magazine (with me) in
June 2001, it's even part of my patent

What more PROOF do you want ?????????????????????????????????

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

You did not invent it Rodney. You just applied it to using a CR rig or some
other rig below a dropshot in bass fishing. There were probably others
doing it bass fishing also. We have used a hook above a jig for at least 50
years that I know of while fishing for rockcod on the west coast. The hook
above used to be a shrimp fly and then with the advent of plastics a grub or
a swimbait.
Bill

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
John C. French wrote:

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.

You had better not bet on this one,, you will instantly loose

I CAN PROVE this, it was even in the Boomerang instructions three years
ago, I showed it to every pro at the Guntersville B.A.S.S. Tournament a
couple of years ago, and it was in Bassmaster's magazine (with me) in
June 2001, it's even part of my patent

What more PROOF do you want ?????????????????????????????????

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

You did not invent it Rodney. You just applied it to using a CR rig or some
other rig below a dropshot in bass fishing. There were probably others
doing it bass fishing also. We have used a hook above a jig for at least 50
years that I know of while fishing for rockcod on the west coast. The hook
above used to be a shrimp fly and then with the advent of plastics a grub or
a swimbait.
Bill

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
John C. French wrote:

Yeah, and I bet it was you, not Al Gore....that invented the internet.

You had better not bet on this one,, you will instantly loose

I CAN PROVE this, it was even in the Boomerang instructions three years
ago, I showed it to every pro at the Guntersville B.A.S.S. Tournament a
couple of years ago, and it was in Bassmaster's magazine (with me) in
June 2001, it's even part of my patent

What more PROOF do you want ?????????????????????????????????

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Calif Bill wrote:

You did not invent it Rodney.

Yet you are saying he did ?

You just applied it to using a CR rig or some
other rig below a dropshot in bass fishing. There were probably others
doing it bass fishing also.

Probably don't get it, and how in the world can you say I didn't ?

I would bet there are a lot of fishermen are doing it now


There is not a single article "ANYWHERE" in any fishing magazine, prior
to me publishing it, this fisherman never demonstrated it prior, and
according to the US patent office I am the inventor of it, No, someone
using it does not infringe on my patent, as that part was not worth
patenting, (no way to enforce that part of the patent) although it is
included in my patent drawings

WHen I showed this part (the Carolina rigged drop shot) to Bill Dance,
Hank Parker, Ray Scott, AL Linder, The editor of Bassmaster's, The
writers of Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, and two dozen other
magazines, they said they had never heard of it, or anyone ever thinking
about it prior


Someone claiming it is "their" idea is morally wrong, PERIOD !

"""If""" someone, some where, used it once prior to me,, then that is
just tough, first to publish, gets the credit, unless they can "prove" I
got it from them, or from ANYWHERE else.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Calif Bill wrote:

You did not invent it Rodney.

Yet you are saying he did ?

You just applied it to using a CR rig or some
other rig below a dropshot in bass fishing. There were probably others
doing it bass fishing also.

Probably don't get it, and how in the world can you say I didn't ?

I would bet there are a lot of fishermen are doing it now


There is not a single article "ANYWHERE" in any fishing magazine, prior
to me publishing it, this fisherman never demonstrated it prior, and
according to the US patent office I am the inventor of it, No, someone
using it does not infringe on my patent, as that part was not worth
patenting, (no way to enforce that part of the patent) although it is
included in my patent drawings

WHen I showed this part (the Carolina rigged drop shot) to Bill Dance,
Hank Parker, Ray Scott, AL Linder, The editor of Bassmaster's, The
writers of Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, and two dozen other
magazines, they said they had never heard of it, or anyone ever thinking
about it prior


Someone claiming it is "their" idea is morally wrong, PERIOD !

"""If""" someone, some where, used it once prior to me,, then that is
just tough, first to publish, gets the credit, unless they can "prove" I
got it from them, or from ANYWHERE else.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Calif Bill wrote:

You did not invent it Rodney.

Yet you are saying he did ?

You just applied it to using a CR rig or some
other rig below a dropshot in bass fishing. There were probably others
doing it bass fishing also.

Probably don't get it, and how in the world can you say I didn't ?

I would bet there are a lot of fishermen are doing it now


There is not a single article "ANYWHERE" in any fishing magazine, prior
to me publishing it, this fisherman never demonstrated it prior, and
according to the US patent office I am the inventor of it, No, someone
using it does not infringe on my patent, as that part was not worth
patenting, (no way to enforce that part of the patent) although it is
included in my patent drawings

WHen I showed this part (the Carolina rigged drop shot) to Bill Dance,
Hank Parker, Ray Scott, AL Linder, The editor of Bassmaster's, The
writers of Bassmaster's, Field and Stream, and two dozen other
magazines, they said they had never heard of it, or anyone ever thinking
about it prior


Someone claiming it is "their" idea is morally wrong, PERIOD !

"""If""" someone, some where, used it once prior to me,, then that is
just tough, first to publish, gets the credit, unless they can "prove" I
got it from them, or from ANYWHERE else.
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Rodney, does anyone really care about your inventions? I sure don't...I
hate to admit it but I bought one of you "eznot" rigs and it was a
POS..JMO...


Git-R-Done

Dropshotting
 

Rodney, does anyone really care about your inventions? I sure don't...I
hate to admit it but I bought one of you "eznot" rigs and it was a
POS..JMO...


Git-R-Done

Dropshotting
 

Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it, but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,
which I'm sure that you invented also!

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

Cheers,
--
Doyce

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it, but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,
which I'm sure that you invented also!

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

Cheers,
--
Doyce

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it. Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it, but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,
which I'm sure that you invented also!

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life. Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

Cheers,
--
Doyce

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Why not try the Jay Yelas rig? He combines both a DS rig with a CR rig
by
tying the DS hook on the main line above the swivel for the CR rig. The
length above the swivel would depend on the conditions that one is
fishing.
According to Yelas,

WEll he DID not come up with it

I did, and demo'ed it 3 years ago at Bass Pro, and the Classic in New
Orleans, even have it in a video filmed 40 months ago, and Bill Dance
using it on his show 32 months ago

I will give Jay a call,, and at least get him to say he saw it elsewhere
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it.
Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it,

I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls
and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was
not claiming it...



but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,

It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either)

which I'm sure that you invented also!

Now your being an A.H.

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life.

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances

Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry.
It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it
licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one
does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out
from under the true inventor


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

Doyce McIlvene wrote:
Rodney,
Jay Yelas NEVER claimed to have invented the rig in question, but was merely
demo'ing it in answer to a question from a member of the audience. IT was ME
that tagged it "the Jay Yelas rig" as this was the first time that I had
seen it.
Now if you have a problem with me doing so, I could care frikken
less. You may or may not have invented it,

I did, and I now remember showing it to Jay, as I made some phone calls
and another pro was there and told me when, he also told me that Jay was
not claiming it...



but who gives a rats rear end as
you said yourself that you couldn't or wouldn't patient it, so therefore, it
is pubic domain as for as I am concerned much the same as the Texas rig,

It is just that,, I just wanted to make sure we did not end up with
another (Trilene knot) as they did not invent that knot (no I didn't either)

which I'm sure that you invented also!

Now your being an A.H.

All I was attempting to do is present another method or technique to the OP
so that he could try different options to find which works best for him. So
get off your high horse and quit worry so much about someone stealing your
thunder and get a life.

This is my life, it is how I make my living, and it is important I get
the proper credit,, not to, or from the fishermen, but to the big
players in the fishing industry, you see they do keep score on who came
up with what, and that can make a big difference in how much they pay me
in the future, and how long a contract I get. It also improves my TV
exposure chances

Go fishing and don't sweat the small crap!

As I just showed you, it is not small crap to those inside the industry.
It is very hard for a fishermen, not inside the industry to make it
licensing new fishing products,, few ever do it, and sometimes when one
does,, someone else tries to take the credit cutting the legs right out
from under the true inventor


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

AJH wrote:

Rodney, does anyone really care about your inventions?

They seam to, as I've made many thousands of dollars from my licensees,
and they will be in nearly every major store in the country starting in
January



I sure don't...I
hate to admit it but I bought one of you "eznot" rigs

and it was a
POS..JMO...


The EZknot was and is not a rig,, it is also guaranteed, send me your
snail mail address you will be the first in over 20,000 fishermen not
satestified, I will mail you back your money, or I can happly paypal you
the money.

I'm very happy with just one unsatisfied customer in 20,000, most
successful products have 5 to 10 % unsatisfied customers


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Dropshotting
 

AJH wrote:

Rodney, does anyone really care about your inventions?

They seam to, as I've made many thousands of dollars from my licensees,
and they will be in nearly every major store in the country starting in
January



I sure don't...I
hate to admit it but I bought one of you "eznot" rigs

and it was a
POS..JMO...


The EZknot was and is not a rig,, it is also guaranteed, send me your
snail mail address you will be the first in over 20,000 fishermen not
satestified, I will mail you back your money, or I can happly paypal you
the money.

I'm very happy with just one unsatisfied customer in 20,000, most
successful products have 5 to 10 % unsatisfied customers


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com