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I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as far as religion goes. what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very subtly being pushed which I disagree with. anyone else feel that way? Wayne |
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Do you think God created bass and everything else? Maybe they respect that
more than you. And maybe you'll be right there with them one day. Our nation was founded by people with Christian beliefs. Sadly, some disrespectful folks get into the mix of our government. Yet, even today, religion guides our government. As always, the Christians struggle. Or do they? Seems to me that most of the top touring pros are very religious. Out of respect, the FLW tour doesn't have Sunday tournaments. It also seems that the Linder's message is working or you wouldn't have posted about them. Pondering about Christ is what they want. And that's a good thing. from who it may concern "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no... I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as far as religion goes. what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very subtly being pushed which I disagree with. anyone else feel that way? Wayne |
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Spoon,
You are correct in your observation about the tenor of the new venture. I don't know all the particulars about their drift from In Fishermen, but did hear it was related to thier desire to be more overt about their religious beliefs. If I also recall correctly, Ron had a real addiction to alcohol and it nearly ruined his life. I do believe after a binge he hit a Billy G. revival meeting or one of the other evangelist and it was the beginnning of his recovery for which he is very and appropriately grateful to Heavenly Father. Thus I think, at least the more open and direct reflection of those feelings. I'm sure his brother Al is right beside him. I think the site and the new show is great. We just don't have enough overt positive feelings about religion in this country as a whole. In fact one of the things I love the most about my travels down south, especially to Nashville area, is the overt patriotism and religious feelings of the people we run into. hope this sheds some light on your question. Have a good week and tight lines. -- God Bless America Josh The Bad Bear |
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If you don't want anyone to get the wrong idea, try to be clear. I don't
understand what you object to. #1 Is it their belief? #2 Is it the fact that they are open about their belief? #3 Is it the methods they use to share their belief? You say they are subtle. Would you rather they preached from the rooftops? Then it wouldn't be a fishing show. Spoonplugger wrote: I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as far as religion goes. what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very subtly being pushed which I disagree with. anyone else feel that way? Wayne |
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What does this have to do with bass fishing..?
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hawg-o-matic wrote:
... Our nation was founded by people with Christian beliefs. ... Bulls***. http://religion.aynrand.org/quotes.html -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing.........
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John Kerr wrote:
Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing......... I sometimes believe I have caught a glimmer of a glimpse of God out of the corner of my eye while bass fishing. But I'd never suggest that everybody ought to go bass fishing. God is where YOU find her. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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Anyone who uses the cheap Abu's exclusively isn't a bass fisherman.
Catfisherman have better taste. What to you have to do with bass fishing? "AJH" wrote in message ... What does this have to do with bass fishing..? I fish therefore I lie |
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Years ago, I think I saw God the morning after
my hemoroid operation. "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message y.com... John Kerr wrote: Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing......... I sometimes believe I have caught a glimmer of a glimpse of God out of the corner of my eye while bass fishing. But I'd never suggest that everybody ought to go bass fishing. God is where YOU find her. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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You really hurt my feelings with the nasty comment about Abu reels..
grinWhat reels should I be using to becaome a real bass fisherman? Actually I haven't caught a catfish in many years, You might take your off topic religion stuff elsewhere.. I fish therefore I lie |
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I certainly feel closest to God when I'm fishing, and I can think of a whole
lot worse things than religeon that are being "pushed" on society these days. I see no difference in the Lindner's actions then that of a football player crossing himself after scoring a touchdown. It's all about the right to express ourselves any way want & the right to worship any way we want, Two of many rights we all have as Americans. Thank God for that. Happy Holidays to the ROFB crew. Warren "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no... I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as far as religion goes. what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very subtly being pushed which I disagree with. anyone else feel that way? Wayne |
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No, I do not object to the Linder's site, their belief, or the way they
promote it. In fact, I support them and their cause. Nice thing about being an American, you have the right to speak your mind and if you don't like something, you can simply turn your back to it. In this case, I choose to not too. In GOD we trust, GOD Bless America, Now let's go fishing! -- Craig Baugher |
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ok I did not want this to become a fishing vs. religion topic
I was just wondering if it bugged anyone else, I have a deep respect for the Linders and over the years have learned alot from them. religion does nothing for me PERSONALLY, as I said to each their own but what my question was does it bug anyone else that it is being offered up in this fashion it isn't being pushed and it would not stop me from watching them but for instance if I wanted one of their caps they offer for sale on the site it has a huge fish and cross on it so basically they are shooting for the religious fisherman? or pushing their beliefs on there audience which I personally feel is wrong. this was not meant to be off topic or even a slight against religion. religion to me is a personal thing and what you believe is what you believe noone has the right to say otherwise. so to those that were offended I do apologize it just made me curious is all. lets get back to fishing Wayne "Craig" wrote in message ... No, I do not object to the Linder's site, their belief, or the way they promote it. In fact, I support them and their cause. Nice thing about being an American, you have the right to speak your mind and if you don't like something, you can simply turn your back to it. In this case, I choose to not too. In GOD we trust, GOD Bless America, Now let's go fishing! -- Craig Baugher |
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I too think religion is a personal thing and does not belong in a
business situation or on a bass fishing news group..I am amazed that so many "religious" people are mean spirited. I was gong to say more but I got knocked off line and I took that as a warning..grin I fish therefore I lie |
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religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? Nope.... been involved in it for years..... http://www.fishersofmenministries.com/ George Bucks County, PA a href="http://www.911bassanglers.com911 Bass Anglers/a a href="http://www.outdoorfrontiers.comOutdoor Frontiers/a a href="http://www.nmnp.comNew Media For Non Profits/a |
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Catfish Charlie Summers is the group's resident catfish expert. I'm sure
that he can help you put some catfish back in your live well, especially if you are trying to target bass. -- Bob Rickard www.secretweaponlures.com --------------------------=x O'))) "AJH" wrote in message ... You really hurt my feelings with the nasty comment about Abu reels.. grinWhat reels should I be using to becaome a real bass fisherman? Actually I haven't caught a catfish in many years, You might take your off topic religion stuff elsewhere.. I fish therefore I lie |
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Nope... that was the Devil!
Been there, done that... Never again! "bill allemann" wrote in message m... Years ago, I think I saw God the morning after my hemoroid operation. "Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message y.com... John Kerr wrote: Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing......... I sometimes believe I have caught a glimmer of a glimpse of God out of the corner of my eye while bass fishing. But I'd never suggest that everybody ought to go bass fishing. God is where YOU find her. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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I am??? I guess since the departure of Rodney, I can step in.
Catfishing while diguising it as bass fishing is one of the hardest techniques that I have ever tried to learn. Just think about how many of them nasty ole bass you have to keep releasing just to put one whiskered fish in the livewell! Whew... Maybe I'll get Al to help me write a book about the subject. As far as religion and bass fishing is concerned, if you believe, then believe. If you choose not to believe, then don't believe. But for goodness sakes and to prevent a new holy war... just keep it to yourself. If something offends you... change the channel or the subject. I know I'd rather spend the day with someone that wanted to talk fishing than someone who was trying to convince me that their religion was better than mine. "Bob Rickard" wrote in message . com... Catfish Charlie Summers is the group's resident catfish expert. I'm sure that he can help you put some catfish back in your live well, especially if you are trying to target bass. -- Bob Rickard www.secretweaponlures.com --------------------------=x O'))) "AJH" wrote in message ... You really hurt my feelings with the nasty comment about Abu reels.. grinWhat reels should I be using to becaome a real bass fisherman? Actually I haven't caught a catfish in many years, You might take your off topic religion stuff elsewhere.. I fish therefore I lie |
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I think I will stick with bass fishing, bass fishing with catfish reels,
What SW spinnerbait would you recommend for catfish? I have caught some nice cat's on crankbaits but not recently..I was using Shimano reels then..My Abu's reels have religious parts, one clip is called a "jesus clip" when it flies off, at least that's what I say . I fish therefore I lie |
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"Jesus will find you
where ever you go but, if he's really looking for you... I really don't know." Warren Zevon (1952-2003) Mike |
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My last catfish was on the Green Goddess at just about dusk. I still can't
believe it... "AJH" wrote in message ... I think I will stick with bass fishing, bass fishing with catfish reels, What SW spinnerbait would you recommend for catfish? I have caught some nice cat's on crankbaits but not recently..I was using Shimano reels then..My Abu's reels have religious parts, one clip is called a "jesus clip" when it flies off, at least that's what I say . I fish therefore I lie |
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thanks for the added contraversy (sp) to the group.
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I will put you on the prayer list at CHURCH ken.
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BassMr. wrote:
I will put you on the prayer list at CHURCH ken. Bless your heart, that is so awfully nice of you. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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"Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no... The Linder's religious thing. I'm gonna wade in here. 1. Jesus chose fishermen as his 1st disciples. (Borrowed their boat to preach from) ...Jesus used a boat with which they made their living from as a platform (Literally) to share the Gospel... 2. Jesus knows where the fish are...and proved it to a bunch of professional fishermen. (Remember these guys had fished all night without anything...n cast your net on the other side of the boat thing???) Off topic, but very cool...:) 3. Paul was a tent maker by trade. He worked with his hands for a living...in his spare time he wrote 3/4 of the New Testament...made friends with these same disciples/fishermen. Paul most likely shared his beliefs with those who did business with him, and later died for doing so... 4. If you study the Old Testament, God always chose people who worked hard for a living to represent Him. In summary; If you have been savvy enough to be successful at a TV/Magazine enterprize...and you are a Christian...and you are blessed enough to live in a country which affords the right to free speech without persecution...why not follow the example set by your Leader, a close friend to a bunch of fishermen? Just my humble opinion... Suthern |
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Too bad! I don't really know anything about the Linder brothers, but good
for them. I wish there were more people like them. Jeff "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no... I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as far as religion goes. what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very subtly being pushed which I disagree with. anyone else feel that way? Wayne |
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ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an
anti religious freak which I am not ill try again for example if you bought some fishing gear from a reputable company and along with the fishing gear came Tupperware catalogs and advertising telling you that you should be using Tupperware would it bug you? I mean those that use Tupperware like Tupperware so you should too. as I said in the original post I like and respect the Linders for what they do if they choose to have lily pad revivals every Sunday it would not bother me I was mearly curious if the way it was packaged bothered anyone else. that's it if your a ford driver and someone says Chevy is better does that bug you? this was not meant to bring religion into the center of this and I probably should have formed the question a lot better than I did. Wayne "Jeff Durham" wrote in message ... Too bad! I don't really know anything about the Linder brothers, but good for them. I wish there were more people like them. Jeff "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no... I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as far as religion goes. what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very subtly being pushed which I disagree with. anyone else feel that way? Wayne |
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I doubt if you are going to get tupperware catalogs when you order fishing
gear. Frankly, i don't what you are trying to get at. |
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"Gone Angling" wrote in message ... Frankly, i don't what you are trying to get at. We never expected you to... |
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"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no... ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an anti religious freak which I am not ill try again I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me, unless they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in my life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right and wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down and whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I really can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession. I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss those extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases. -- Andrew Kidd http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us! http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home |
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Spoonplugger wrote: ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an anti religious freak which I am not ill try again for example if you bought some fishing gear from a reputable company and along with the fishing gear came Tupperware catalogs and advertising telling you that you should be using Tupperware would it bug you? I mean those that use Tupperware like Tupperware so you should too. It totally depends on how it's done. A lot of magazines come full of advertising, some not even attached so that it falls out on the floor. It's irritating, but I keep getting them. Bassmaster sent a book and kept bugging me to pay for it. They won't get any more of my money. as I said in the original post I like and respect the Linders for what they do if they choose to have lily pad revivals every Sunday it would not bother me I was mearly curious if the way it was packaged bothered anyone else. that's it if your a ford driver and someone says Chevy is better does that bug you? It depends on how it's said. Does he say "I think Chevy trucks are a better value." or does he say "You must be an idiot to drive a Ford!" this was not meant to bring religion into the center of this and I probably should have formed the question a lot better than I did. Wayne |
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I doubt if you are going to get tupperware catalogs when you order
fishing gear. Frankly, i don't what you are trying to get at This word may help you----hypothetical Look it up |
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I also believe that his wife had a very serious bout with cancer and came
close to death. I know from personal experience that it tends to sharpen and focus ones beliefs and priorities. The great thing about it is if it offends somebody they can choose to not watch / participate. They are not going door to door. There certainly is no need to bash someone for their beliefs, this is America. Chris "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no... I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as far as religion goes. what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very subtly being pushed which I disagree with. anyone else feel that way? Wayne |
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Amen.
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I think spoon raised an interesting question and I saw no more in it than
that. Seems llike we all agree that we are all entitled to our respective opinions... just if you disagree with me . . . yer going to hell where you'll never catch another bass g -- God Bless America Josh The Bad Bear |
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Thank you Andrew you got my point.
and to Chris and anyone else who was thinking it I was not bashing anyone for their beliefs period. Wayne "Andrew Kidd" wrote in message news:kisBb.6393$8y1.28247@attbi_s52... "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no... ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an anti religious freak which I am not ill try again I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me, unless they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in my life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right and wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down and whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I really can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession. I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss those extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases. -- Andrew Kidd http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us! http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home |
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Relax spoonplugger, I don't see anyone pointing fingers at you. I certainly
am not. warren -- http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/ "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:uJyBb.627911$6C4.549556@pd7tw1no... Thank you Andrew you got my point. and to Chris and anyone else who was thinking it I was not bashing anyone for their beliefs period. Wayne "Andrew Kidd" wrote in message news:kisBb.6393$8y1.28247@attbi_s52... "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no... ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an anti religious freak which I am not ill try again I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me, unless they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in my life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right and wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down and whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I really can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession. I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss those extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases. -- Andrew Kidd http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us! http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home |
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I agree.
WW -- http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/ "Josh" wrote in message ... I think spoon raised an interesting question and I saw no more in it than that. Seems llike we all agree that we are all entitled to our respective opinions... just if you disagree with me . . . yer going to hell where you'll never catch another bass g -- God Bless America Josh The Bad Bear |
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thanks was kind of concerned about that for awhile
Wayne "go-bassn" wrote in message ... Relax spoonplugger, I don't see anyone pointing fingers at you. I certainly am not. warren -- http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/ "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:uJyBb.627911$6C4.549556@pd7tw1no... Thank you Andrew you got my point. and to Chris and anyone else who was thinking it I was not bashing anyone for their beliefs period. Wayne "Andrew Kidd" wrote in message news:kisBb.6393$8y1.28247@attbi_s52... "Spoonplugger" wrote in message news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no... ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an anti religious freak which I am not ill try again I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me, unless they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in my life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right and wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down and whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I really can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession. I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss those extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases. -- Andrew Kidd http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us! http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home |
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