dont get the wrong Idea here
 

I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their
own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian
publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as
far as religion goes.
what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very
subtly being pushed which I disagree with.
anyone else feel that way?
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Do you think God created bass and everything else? Maybe they respect that
more than you. And maybe you'll be right there with them one day. Our nation
was founded by people with Christian beliefs. Sadly, some disrespectful
folks get into the mix of our government. Yet, even today, religion guides
our government. As always, the Christians struggle. Or do they? Seems to me
that most of the top touring pros are very religious. Out of respect, the
FLW tour doesn't have Sunday tournaments. It also seems that the Linder's
message is working or you wouldn't have posted about them. Pondering about
Christ is what they want. And that's a good thing.

from who it may concern



"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
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I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their
own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian
publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet"
as
far as religion goes.
what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very
subtly being pushed which I disagree with.
anyone else feel that way?
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Spoon,
You are correct in your observation about the tenor of the new venture.
I don't know all the particulars about their drift from In Fishermen, but
did hear it was related to thier desire to be more overt about their
religious beliefs.

If I also recall correctly, Ron had a real addiction to alcohol and it
nearly ruined his life. I do believe after a binge he hit a Billy G. revival
meeting or one of the other evangelist and it was the beginnning of his
recovery for which he is very and appropriately grateful to Heavenly Father.
Thus I think, at least the more open and direct reflection of those
feelings. I'm sure his brother Al is right beside him.

I think the site and the new show is great. We just don't have enough
overt positive feelings about religion in this country as a whole. In fact
one of the things I love the most about my travels down south, especially
to Nashville area, is the overt patriotism and religious feelings of the
people we run into.

hope this sheds some light on your question. Have a good week and tight
lines.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

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If you don't want anyone to get the wrong idea, try to be clear. I don't
understand what you object to.
#1 Is it their belief?
#2 Is it the fact that they are open about their belief?
#3 Is it the methods they use to share their belief?
You say they are subtle. Would you rather they preached from the
rooftops? Then it wouldn't be a fishing show.


Spoonplugger wrote:
I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their
own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian
publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet" as
far as religion goes.
what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very
subtly being pushed which I disagree with.
anyone else feel that way?
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

What does this have to do with bass fishing..?





I fish therefore I lie

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hawg-o-matic wrote:
... Our nation
was founded by people with Christian beliefs. ...

Bulls***.

http://religion.aynrand.org/quotes.html

--
Ken Fortenberry

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing.........

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

John Kerr wrote:

Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing.........

I sometimes believe I have caught a glimmer of a glimpse of God out
of the corner of my eye while bass fishing. But I'd never suggest
that everybody ought to go bass fishing. God is where YOU find her.

--
Ken Fortenberry

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Anyone who uses the cheap Abu's exclusively isn't a bass fisherman.
Catfisherman have better taste. What to you have to do with bass fishing?



"AJH" wrote in message
...
What does this have to do with bass fishing..?





I fish therefore I lie

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Years ago, I think I saw God the morning after
my hemoroid operation.


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...
John Kerr wrote:

Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing.........

I sometimes believe I have caught a glimmer of a glimpse of God out
of the corner of my eye while bass fishing. But I'd never suggest
that everybody ought to go bass fishing. God is where YOU find her.

--
Ken Fortenberry

don't get the wrong Idea here
 

You really hurt my feelings with the nasty comment about Abu reels..
grinWhat reels should I be using to becaome a real bass fisherman?
Actually I haven't caught a catfish in many years, You might take your
off topic religion stuff elsewhere..





I fish therefore I lie

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I certainly feel closest to God when I'm fishing, and I can think of a whole
lot worse things than religeon that are being "pushed" on society these
days. I see no difference in the Lindner's actions then that of a football
player crossing himself after scoring a touchdown. It's all about the right
to express ourselves any way want & the right to worship any way we want,
Two of many rights we all have as Americans.

Thank God for that.

Happy Holidays to the ROFB crew.

Warren


"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no...
I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their
own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian
publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet"
as
far as religion goes.
what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very
subtly being pushed which I disagree with.
anyone else feel that way?
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

No, I do not object to the Linder's site, their belief, or the way they
promote it. In fact, I support them and their cause.

Nice thing about being an American, you have the right to speak your mind
and if you don't like something, you can simply turn your back to it. In
this case, I choose to not too.

In GOD we trust,
GOD Bless America,
Now let's go fishing!

--
Craig Baugher

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ok I did not want this to become a fishing vs. religion topic
I was just wondering if it bugged anyone else, I have a deep respect for the
Linders and over the years have learned alot from them. religion does
nothing for me PERSONALLY, as I said to each their own but what my question
was does it bug anyone else that it is being offered up in this fashion it
isn't being pushed and it would not stop me from watching them
but for instance if I wanted one of their caps they offer for sale on the
site it has a huge fish and cross on it so basically they are
shooting for the religious fisherman? or pushing their beliefs on there
audience which I personally feel is wrong.
this was not meant to be off topic or even a slight against religion.
religion to me is a personal thing and what you believe is what you believe
noone has the right to say otherwise.
so to those that were offended I do apologize it just made me curious is
all. lets get back to fishing
Wayne
"Craig" wrote in message
...
No, I do not object to the Linder's site, their belief, or the way they
promote it. In fact, I support them and their cause.

Nice thing about being an American, you have the right to speak your mind
and if you don't like something, you can simply turn your back to it. In
this case, I choose to not too.

In GOD we trust,
GOD Bless America,
Now let's go fishing!

--
Craig Baugher

don't get the wrong Idea here
 

I too think religion is a personal thing and does not belong in a
business situation or on a bass fishing news group..I am amazed that so
many "religious" people are mean spirited. I was gong to say more but I
got knocked off line and I took that as a warning..grin





I fish therefore I lie

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Linder brothers

religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing?

Nope.... been involved in it for years.....

http://www.fishersofmenministries.com/

George
Bucks County, PA
a href="http://www.911bassanglers.com911 Bass Anglers/a
a href="http://www.outdoorfrontiers.comOutdoor Frontiers/a
a href="http://www.nmnp.comNew Media For Non Profits/a

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Catfish Charlie Summers is the group's resident catfish expert. I'm sure
that he can help you put some catfish back in your live well, especially if
you are trying to target bass.

--
Bob Rickard
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))

"AJH" wrote in message
...
You really hurt my feelings with the nasty comment about Abu reels..
grinWhat reels should I be using to becaome a real bass fisherman?
Actually I haven't caught a catfish in many years, You might take your
off topic religion stuff elsewhere..





I fish therefore I lie

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Nope... that was the Devil!

Been there, done that... Never again!

"bill allemann" wrote in message
m...
Years ago, I think I saw God the morning after
my hemoroid operation.


"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
y.com...
John Kerr wrote:

Once in a while I use "God's" name when bass fishing.........

I sometimes believe I have caught a glimmer of a glimpse of God out
of the corner of my eye while bass fishing. But I'd never suggest
that everybody ought to go bass fishing. God is where YOU find her.

--
Ken Fortenberry

don't get the wrong Idea here
 

I am??? I guess since the departure of Rodney, I can step in.

Catfishing while diguising it as bass fishing is one of the hardest
techniques that I have ever tried to learn. Just think about how many of
them nasty ole bass you have to keep releasing just to put one whiskered
fish in the livewell! Whew... Maybe I'll get Al to help me write a book
about the subject.

As far as religion and bass fishing is concerned, if you believe, then
believe. If you choose not to believe, then don't believe. But for goodness
sakes and to prevent a new holy war... just keep it to yourself. If
something offends you... change the channel or the subject. I know I'd
rather spend the day with someone that wanted to talk fishing than someone
who was trying to convince me that their religion was better than mine.


"Bob Rickard" wrote in message
. com...
Catfish Charlie Summers is the group's resident catfish expert. I'm sure
that he can help you put some catfish back in your live well, especially
if
you are trying to target bass.

--
Bob Rickard
www.secretweaponlures.com
--------------------------=x O')))

"AJH" wrote in message
...
You really hurt my feelings with the nasty comment about Abu reels..
grinWhat reels should I be using to becaome a real bass fisherman?
Actually I haven't caught a catfish in many years, You might take your
off topic religion stuff elsewhere..





I fish therefore I lie

don't get the wrong Idea here
 

I think I will stick with bass fishing, bass fishing with catfish reels,
What SW spinnerbait would you recommend for catfish? I have caught some
nice cat's on crankbaits but not recently..I was using Shimano reels
then..My Abu's reels have religious parts, one clip is called a "jesus
clip" when it flies off, at least that's what I say .





I fish therefore I lie

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

"Jesus will find you
where ever you go
but, if he's really looking
for you...
I really don't know."
Warren Zevon (1952-2003)
Mike

don't get the wrong Idea here
 

My last catfish was on the Green Goddess at just about dusk. I still can't
believe it...


"AJH" wrote in message
...
I think I will stick with bass fishing, bass fishing with catfish reels,
What SW spinnerbait would you recommend for catfish? I have caught some
nice cat's on crankbaits but not recently..I was using Shimano reels
then..My Abu's reels have religious parts, one clip is called a "jesus
clip" when it flies off, at least that's what I say .





I fish therefore I lie

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

thanks for the added contraversy (sp) to the group.

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

I will put you on the prayer list at CHURCH ken.

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

BassMr. wrote:
I will put you on the prayer list at CHURCH ken.

Bless your heart, that is so awfully nice of you.

--
Ken Fortenberry

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"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
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The Linder's religious thing.

I'm gonna wade in here.

1. Jesus chose fishermen as his 1st disciples. (Borrowed their boat to
preach from) ...Jesus used a boat with which they made their living from as
a platform (Literally) to share the Gospel...

2. Jesus knows where the fish are...and proved it to a bunch of professional
fishermen. (Remember these guys had fished all night without anything...n
cast your net on the other side of the boat thing???) Off topic, but very
cool...:)

3. Paul was a tent maker by trade. He worked with his hands for a
living...in his spare time he wrote 3/4 of the New Testament...made friends
with these same disciples/fishermen. Paul most likely shared his beliefs
with those who did business with him, and later died for doing so...

4. If you study the Old Testament, God always chose people who worked hard
for a living to represent Him.

In summary; If you have been savvy enough to be successful at a TV/Magazine
enterprize...and you are a Christian...and you are blessed enough to live in
a country which affords the right to free speech without persecution...why
not follow the example set by your Leader, a close friend to a bunch of
fishermen?

Just my humble opinion...

Suthern

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Too bad! I don't really know anything about the Linder brothers, but good
for them. I wish there were more people like them.

Jeff


"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no...
I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their
own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian
publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet"
as
far as religion goes.
what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very
subtly being pushed which I disagree with.
anyone else feel that way?
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an
anti religious freak which I am not ill try again
for example if you bought some fishing gear from a reputable company and
along with the fishing gear came Tupperware catalogs and advertising telling
you that you should be using Tupperware would it bug you? I mean those that
use Tupperware like Tupperware so you should too.
as I said in the original post I like and respect the Linders for what they
do if they choose to have lily pad revivals every Sunday it would not bother
me I was mearly curious if the way it was packaged bothered anyone else.
that's it
if your a ford driver and someone says Chevy is better does that bug you?
this was not meant to bring religion into the center of this
and I probably should have formed the question a lot better than I did.
Wayne
"Jeff Durham" wrote in message
...
Too bad! I don't really know anything about the Linder brothers, but good
for them. I wish there were more people like them.

Jeff


"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no...
I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each
their
own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian
publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the
closet"
as
far as religion goes.
what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very
subtly being pushed which I disagree with.
anyone else feel that way?
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

I doubt if you are going to get tupperware catalogs when you order fishing
gear. Frankly, i don't what you are trying to get at.

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

"Gone Angling" wrote in message
...
Frankly, i don't what you are trying to get at.

We never expected you to...

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no...
ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am
an
anti religious freak which I am not ill try again

I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me, unless
they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in my
life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right and
wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down and
whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I really
can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession.

I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss those
extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases.

--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Spoonplugger wrote:
ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I am an
anti religious freak which I am not ill try again
for example if you bought some fishing gear from a reputable company and
along with the fishing gear came Tupperware catalogs and advertising telling
you that you should be using Tupperware would it bug you? I mean those that
use Tupperware like Tupperware so you should too.

It totally depends on how it's done. A lot of magazines come full of
advertising, some not even attached so that it falls out on the floor.
It's irritating, but I keep getting them. Bassmaster sent a book and
kept bugging me to pay for it. They won't get any more of my money.


as I said in the original post I like and respect the Linders for what they
do if they choose to have lily pad revivals every Sunday it would not bother
me I was mearly curious if the way it was packaged bothered anyone else.
that's it
if your a ford driver and someone says Chevy is better does that bug you?


It depends on how it's said. Does he say "I think Chevy trucks are a
better value." or does he say "You must be an idiot to drive a Ford!"


this was not meant to bring religion into the center of this
and I probably should have formed the question a lot better than I did.
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

I doubt if you are going to get tupperware catalogs when you order
fishing gear. Frankly, i don't what you are trying to get at

This word may help you----hypothetical

Look it up

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I also believe that his wife had a very serious bout with cancer and came
close to death. I know from personal experience that it tends to sharpen
and focus ones beliefs and priorities. The great thing about it is if it
offends somebody they can choose to not watch / participate. They are not
going door to door. There certainly is no need to bash someone for their
beliefs, this is America.
Chris
"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:%lMAb.591920$6C4.211086@pd7tw1no...
I was just perusing the new Linder brothers website
and I got curious about religion is it me or are they now
really into the religion thing? I would not knock it at all to each their
own and all and I always knew that the in fisherman was a Christian
publication but the new edge stuff seems to have "come out of the closet"
as
far as religion goes.
what bothers me about it and it is a very small bother is that it very
subtly being pushed which I disagree with.
anyone else feel that way?
Wayne

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Amen.

--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

I think spoon raised an interesting question and I saw no more in it than
that. Seems llike we all agree that we are all entitled to our respective
opinions... just if you disagree with me . . . yer going to hell where
you'll never catch another bass g


--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Thank you Andrew you got my point.
and to Chris and anyone else who was thinking it I was not bashing anyone
for their beliefs period.
Wayne
"Andrew Kidd" wrote in message
news:kisBb.6393$8y1.28247@attbi_s52...
"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no...
ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I
am
an
anti religious freak which I am not ill try again

I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me, unless
they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in my
life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right and
wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down and
whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I
really
can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession.

I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss those
extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases.

--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

Relax spoonplugger, I don't see anyone pointing fingers at you. I certainly
am not.

warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:uJyBb.627911$6C4.549556@pd7tw1no...
Thank you Andrew you got my point.
and to Chris and anyone else who was thinking it I was not bashing anyone
for their beliefs period.
Wayne
"Andrew Kidd" wrote in message
news:kisBb.6393$8y1.28247@attbi_s52...
"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no...
ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking I
am
an
anti religious freak which I am not ill try again

I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me, unless
they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in my
life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right and
wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down
and
whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I
really
can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession.

I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss those
extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases.

--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home

dont get the wrong Idea here
 

I agree.

WW
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Josh" wrote in message
...
I think spoon raised an interesting question and I saw no more in it than
that. Seems llike we all agree that we are all entitled to our respective
opinions... just if you disagree with me . . . yer going to hell where
you'll never catch another bass g


--
God Bless America

Josh The Bad Bear

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thanks was kind of concerned about that for awhile
Wayne
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Relax spoonplugger, I don't see anyone pointing fingers at you. I
certainly
am not.

warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:uJyBb.627911$6C4.549556@pd7tw1no...
Thank you Andrew you got my point.
and to Chris and anyone else who was thinking it I was not bashing
anyone
for their beliefs period.
Wayne
"Andrew Kidd" wrote in message
news:kisBb.6393$8y1.28247@attbi_s52...
"Spoonplugger" wrote in message
news:WvpBb.626737$9l5.120647@pd7tw2no...
ok obviously the wrong idea was had here so to avoid people thinking
I
am
an
anti religious freak which I am not ill try again

I understand what you meant, and no, it doesn't really bother me,
unless
they start telling me that I need God (or some other higher being) in
my
life to know how catch bass, or to know the difference between right
and
wrong. Unless God (or some other higher being) is going to come down
and
whisper in my ear what bait I need to throw and where to throw it, I
really
can't see any advantage I don't already have in my possession.

I dismiss it as there personal preference...as easily as I dismiss
those
extra flyers some marketeers want to toss in with unrelated purchases.

--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home