Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

During our last
Dallas Fly Fishers club outing,
I did a casual visual survey of the
condition of guide wraps.

In the bright sun it was easy and obvious to see the
occasional shimmer of cracked and de-laminating
clear epoxy. (go out side and try it !)

Is a thick glob of epoxy really the way to go?
Slick and fat and shinny? Yes
Looks good new? You bet?
Does brittle epoxy flex with the rod? Well you figure it out...

Anyway, are some epoxies better than others?
Is there a more flexible Epoxy?


What are problems with Clear Polyurethane?
Does is delaminte too easily?


Any suggestions for incredible
web sites on this subject?
(the internest is awesome!)




Thanks!

Steve in Dallas

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

in article , No Left Turn at
wrote on 9.26.04 9:23 AM:


During our last
Dallas Fly Fishers club outing,
I did a casual visual survey of the
condition of guide wraps.

In the bright sun it was easy and obvious to see the
occasional shimmer of cracked and de-laminating
clear epoxy. (go out side and try it !)

Is a thick glob of epoxy really the way to go?
Slick and fat and shinny? Yes
Looks good new? You bet?
Does brittle epoxy flex with the rod? Well you figure it out...

Anyway, are some epoxies better than others?
Is there a more flexible Epoxy?


What are problems with Clear Polyurethane?
Does is delaminte too easily?


Any suggestions for incredible
web sites on this subject?
(the internest is awesome!)




Thanks!

Steve in Dallas








steve in dallas....

check out rodbuilding.org.... ask your question there. fantastic group and
advice can be found.

eric
fresno, ca.

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

in article , No Left Turn at
wrote on 9.26.04 9:23 AM:


During our last
Dallas Fly Fishers club outing,
I did a casual visual survey of the
condition of guide wraps.

In the bright sun it was easy and obvious to see the
occasional shimmer of cracked and de-laminating
clear epoxy. (go out side and try it !)

Is a thick glob of epoxy really the way to go?
Slick and fat and shinny? Yes
Looks good new? You bet?
Does brittle epoxy flex with the rod? Well you figure it out...

Anyway, are some epoxies better than others?
Is there a more flexible Epoxy?


What are problems with Clear Polyurethane?
Does is delaminte too easily?


Any suggestions for incredible
web sites on this subject?
(the internest is awesome!)




Thanks!

Steve in Dallas








steve in dallas....

check out rodbuilding.org.... ask your question there. fantastic group and
advice can be found.

eric
fresno, ca.

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

in article , No Left Turn at
wrote on 9.26.04 9:23 AM:


During our last
Dallas Fly Fishers club outing,
I did a casual visual survey of the
condition of guide wraps.

In the bright sun it was easy and obvious to see the
occasional shimmer of cracked and de-laminating
clear epoxy. (go out side and try it !)

Is a thick glob of epoxy really the way to go?
Slick and fat and shinny? Yes
Looks good new? You bet?
Does brittle epoxy flex with the rod? Well you figure it out...

Anyway, are some epoxies better than others?
Is there a more flexible Epoxy?


What are problems with Clear Polyurethane?
Does is delaminte too easily?


Any suggestions for incredible
web sites on this subject?
(the internest is awesome!)




Thanks!

Steve in Dallas








steve in dallas....

check out rodbuilding.org.... ask your question there. fantastic group and
advice can be found.

eric
fresno, ca.

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

In answer to the cracking prolem: Sure you aren't using too much hardener?
The hardness (modulus ) usually increses with the amount of hardener. For the
engineers: Modulus is portional to cure agent to polymer ratio.

Lou T

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

In answer to the cracking prolem: Sure you aren't using too much hardener?
The hardness (modulus ) usually increses with the amount of hardener. For the
engineers: Modulus is portional to cure agent to polymer ratio.

Lou T

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

"eric paul zamora" wrote in message
...


steve in dallas....

check out rodbuilding.org.... ask your question there. fantastic group
and
advice can be found.



Yeah, then post your findings back here. I've noticed that the epoxy around
my snake guides on my 2pc 6/7 wt has cracked, and I'm worried that water
(especially the ocassional salt water) will get under the expoxy and rot out
the guides.

--riverman in Kinshasa

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

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Stephen


"Lat705" wrote in message
...
In answer to the cracking prolem: Sure you aren't using too much
hardener?
The hardness (modulus ) usually increses with the amount of hardener. For
the
engineers: Modulus is portional to cure agent to polymer ratio.

Lou T

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

snip

http://www.rodbuilding.org/read.php?...15161&t=115161

/snip


Stephen


"Lat705" wrote in message
...
In answer to the cracking prolem: Sure you aren't using too much
hardener?
The hardness (modulus ) usually increses with the amount of hardener. For
the
engineers: Modulus is portional to cure agent to polymer ratio.

Lou T

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

(Lat705) wrote:
In answer to the cracking prolem: Sure you aren't using too much
hardener?
The hardness (modulus ) usually increses with the amount of hardener.
For the
engineers: Modulus is portional to cure agent to polymer ratio.

Lou T

Epoxy isn't like polyester resin. If you use the wrong poportions, you
don't get a proper cure. Hardness is a function of the manufacturer's
formulation, not an adjustment in the mixture. Rod finishing epoxy,
like Flex-Coat is formulated to flex, and does a pretty good job of it
unless you build it up too thick. Something like 15 minute epoxy is
usually too brittle to flex when you want it too.

I know one rod builder who says you should thin the mixed flex coat
with a couple drops of MEK (Methyl-Ethyl-Keytone sp?) so you can make
a thinner coat. He usually uses 2 coats. I settle for un-thinned
flex-coat and try to put just the right amount on so I get away with
one coat.

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Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

"No Left Turn" wrote in message ...
During our last
Dallas Fly Fishers club outing,
I did a casual visual survey of the
condition of guide wraps.

In the bright sun it was easy and obvious to see the
occasional shimmer of cracked and de-laminating
clear epoxy. (go out side and try it !)

Is a thick glob of epoxy really the way to go?
Slick and fat and shinny? Yes
Looks good new? You bet?
Does brittle epoxy flex with the rod? Well you figure it out...

Anyway, are some epoxies better than others?
Is there a more flexible Epoxy?


What are problems with Clear Polyurethane?
Does is delaminte too easily?


Any suggestions for incredible
web sites on this subject?
(the internest is awesome!)




Thanks!

Steve in Dallas

Steve cracking of the rod finish happens on most rods and you can let
it get pretty bad until you have to remove the guides and refinish
them. You could just put on another coat of finish after cleaning the
old wrap with denatured or isoprople alcohol. There are many different
brands of rod epoxy on the market and some of the best are Flex Coat
and Classic Coat and you can get flexcoat from Cabelas. Just make sure
you mix the epoxy by following the directions and rotate the rod while
the epoxy sets up. I am sure your local tackle shop can help you with
the process if you want assistance. And www.rodguild.com can also
help.
Bruce Fisher

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

No Left Turn wrote:
During our last
Dallas Fly Fishers club outing,
I did a casual visual survey of the
condition of guide wraps.

In the bright sun it was easy and obvious to see the
occasional shimmer of cracked and de-laminating
clear epoxy. (go out side and try it !)

Is a thick glob of epoxy really the way to go?
Slick and fat and shinny? Yes
Looks good new? You bet?
Does brittle epoxy flex with the rod? Well you figure it out...

Anyway, are some epoxies better than others?
Is there a more flexible Epoxy?


What are problems with Clear Polyurethane?
Does is delaminte too easily?


Any suggestions for incredible
web sites on this subject?
(the internest is awesome!)




Thanks!

Steve in Dallas

I dig your bizarre word spacing, Steve. Radically artistic. You're
breaking new ground. For real style, though, you have to put everything
in lower case. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

No Left Turn wrote:

(the internest is awesome!)

I forgot to mention: That's the best malapropism I've seen in a long time.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Fly Rod Guide Wraps and Cracked Epoxy
 

rw wrote:
No Left Turn wrote:
During our last
Dallas Fly Fishers club outing,
I did a casual visual survey of the
condition of guide wraps.

In the bright sun it was easy and obvious to see the
occasional shimmer of cracked and de-laminating
clear epoxy. (go out side and try it !)

Is a thick glob of epoxy really the way to go?
Slick and fat and shinny? Yes
Looks good new? You bet?
Does brittle epoxy flex with the rod? Well you figure it
out... Anyway, are some epoxies better than others?
Is there a more flexible Epoxy?


What are problems with Clear Polyurethane?
Does is delaminte too easily?


Any suggestions for incredible
web sites on this subject?
(the internest is awesome!)




Thanks!

Steve in Dallas

I dig your bizarre word spacing, Steve. Radically artistic.

Obviously a forgery. This post appears to be typed with a military typewriter
from the '70s.
--
TL,
Tim
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