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Mark Tinsky

September 27th, 2004 07:11 PM

Insect ID ?

There has been a strange hatch on the Missourri. Nobody seems to
know what they are . they are small ( size 22-24) almost 5 sided ,
neon green , sit up on the water on mutiple legs. Must have
transparent wings as you dont see them untill they fly away. Fish
are not exactly all over them but once in awhile they get eaten.
Caught a couple fish on what I thought would be close to what they
may look emerging. Anyone have a clue?

MT

The fishing on the MO.( Wolfcreeke to Cascade section ) has
been extremely tough since the end of July. A combination of factors
perhaps, drought and low flows probably the largest. Lot s of
pelicans and people flailing the water from too many guide
boats. It s becoming a very techinical river. Gone are the days
when you could move from pod to pod. Now you re lucky to find
rising fish and have to work them in order to catch any at all.

Tim Lysyk

September 27th, 2004 08:52 PM

Insect ID ?

Mark Tinsky wrote:
There has been a strange hatch on the Missourri. Nobody seems to
know what they are . they are small ( size 22-24) almost 5 sided ,
neon green , sit up on the water on mutiple legs. Must have
transparent wings as you dont see them untill they fly away. Fish
are not exactly all over them but once in awhile they get eaten.
Caught a couple fish on what I thought would be close to what they
may look emerging. Anyone have a clue?

Could you post a picture??

Tim Lysyk

Tim Lysyk

September 27th, 2004 08:52 PM

Insect ID ?

Dave Martel

September 27th, 2004 11:32 PM

Insect ID ?

"Mark Tinsky" wrote in message
...
There has been a strange hatch on the Missourri. Nobody seems to
know what they are . they are small ( size 22-24) almost 5 sided ,
neon green , sit up on the water on mutiple legs. Must have
transparent wings as you dont see them untill they fly away. Fish
are not exactly all over them but once in awhile they get eaten.
Caught a couple fish on what I thought would be close to what they
may look emerging. Anyone have a clue?

MT

The fishing on the MO.( Wolfcreeke to Cascade section ) has
been extremely tough since the end of July. A combination of factors
perhaps, drought and low flows probably the largest. Lot s of
pelicans and people flailing the water from too many guide
boats. It s becoming a very techinical river. Gone are the days
when you could move from pod to pod. Now you re lucky to find
rising fish and have to work them in order to catch any at all.

Mark;

Can't help you on the insect ID. I was on the Missouri (for the first
time) for 10 days on two different trips in July. If this is your home river
I envy the hell out of you. Big water; great hatches; (Tricos when I was
there); wonderful wading opportunities; and big, tough, hard charging Bows
that took us to the backing more in one hour than we experience in 5 *years
here in Maine. . If I could fish the Missouri every day of the open season
I'd die a very happy camper.

It was *tough*; technical fishing when we were there...but I loved every
minute of it. What a great river...can't wait to get back there.

Dave M

Mark Tinsky

September 28th, 2004 06:00 AM

Insect ID ?

Mark;

Can't help you on the insect ID. I was on the Missouri (for the first
time) for 10 days on two different trips in July. If this is your home
river
I envy the hell out of you. Big water; great hatches; (Tricos when I was
there); wonderful wading opportunities; and big, tough, hard charging
Bows
that took us to the backing more in one hour than we experience in 5
*years
here in Maine. . If I could fish the Missouri every day of the open
season
I'd die a very happy camper.

It was *tough*; technical fishing when we were there...but I loved
every
minute of it. What a great river...can't wait to get back there.

Dave M

Hi dave
Glad you enjoyed yourself! It is a great river tho it seems to
be on the low side of the trough right now. A couple years ago
there were like 5000 fish per mile most in the 16-20 class. Pretty
amazing ! Double digit days were common and you could almost always
count on going home with a sore arm. But it is becoming a more
technical river and there s more smaller fish now too, which is a good
thing considering the impact whirling disease could be having. I think
if most of the pelicans could be discretely eliminated it would
improve things also. I think the fish are learning not to put their
heads up in any kind of regular feeding pattern.

When you come back give me a yell be happy to fish with you and
show you some spots I enjoy. APril can be a great time too, no one
on the river and fish are not as wary tho weather can be an iffy
thing.... MT

Mark Tinsky

September 28th, 2004 06:06 AM

Insect ID ?

In article 5c_5d.122050$KU5.84312@edtnps89, Tim Lysyk
wrote:

Mark Tinsky wrote:
There has been a strange hatch on the Missourri. Nobody seems to
know what they are . they are small ( size 22-24) almost 5 sided
,
neon green , sit up on the water on mutiple legs. Must have
transparent wings as you dont see them untill they fly away. Fish
are not exactly all over them but once in awhile they get eaten.
Caught a couple fish on what I thought would be close to what they
may look emerging. Anyone have a clue?

Could you post a picture??

Tim Lysyk

Ill try to catch one of the little buggers. Yhe closest thing I can
liken them to is a leafhopper or an aphid.There were plenty out
tonite MT

Sandy Birrell

September 28th, 2004 09:50 AM

Insect ID ?

Mark Tinsky wrote:
In article 5c_5d.122050$KU5.84312@edtnps89, Tim Lysyk
wrote:

Ill try to catch one of the little buggers. Yhe closest thing I can
liken them to is a leafhopper or an aphid.There were plenty
out tonite MT

It could be a Chironomid.

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brians

September 28th, 2004 10:07 PM

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Sandy Birrell wrote:

Mark Tinsky wrote:

In article 5c_5d.122050$KU5.84312@edtnps89, Tim Lysyk
wrote:

Ill try to catch one of the little buggers. Yhe closest thing I can
liken them to is a leafhopper or an aphid.There were plenty
out tonite MT

It could be a Chironomid.

I was thinking the same thing. I've seen small, bright green midges
before, but it was on a lake. They did look a little like aphids in
color, but not shape.

brians

Sandy Birrell

September 28th, 2004 11:01 PM

Insect ID ?

brians wrote:
Sandy Birrell wrote:

Mark Tinsky wrote:

In article 5c_5d.122050$KU5.84312@edtnps89, Tim Lysyk
wrote:

Ill try to catch one of the little buggers. Yhe closest thing I can
liken them to is a leafhopper or an aphid.There were plenty
out tonite MT

It could be a Chironomid.

I was thinking the same thing. I've seen small, bright green midges
before, but it was on a lake. They did look a little like aphids in
color, but not shape.

brians

How about a lacewing? They are probably bigger than you saw though.

http://www.biocontrol.ucr.edu/photos...s/lacewing.jpg

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Sandy Birrell

September 28th, 2004 11:01 PM

Insect ID ?

George Cleveland

September 28th, 2004 11:37 PM

Insect ID ?

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:11:07 -0700, Mark Tinsky wrote:

There has been a strange hatch on the Missourri. Nobody seems to
know what they are . they are small ( size 22-24) almost 5 sided ,
neon green , sit up on the water on mutiple legs. Must have
transparent wings as you dont see them untill they fly away. Fish
are not exactly all over them but once in awhile they get eaten.
Caught a couple fish on what I thought would be close to what they
may look emerging. Anyone have a clue?

MT

The fishing on the MO.( Wolfcreeke to Cascade section ) has
been extremely tough since the end of July. A combination of factors
perhaps, drought and low flows probably the largest. Lot s of
pelicans and people flailing the water from too many guide
boats. It s becoming a very techinical river. Gone are the days
when you could move from pod to pod. Now you re lucky to find
rising fish and have to work them in order to catch any at all.

I would guess that they're leafhoppers. Thats the only bug I can think
of that would be close to "almost 5 sided".

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/r52301611.html

g.c.

George Cleveland

September 28th, 2004 11:37 PM

Insect ID ?

Sandy Birrell

September 29th, 2004 12:11 AM

Insect ID ?

George Cleveland wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:11:07 -0700, Mark Tinsky wrote:

I would guess that they're leafhoppers. Thats the only bug I can think
of that would be close to "almost 5 sided".

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/r52301611.html

g.c.

Another one :) The shield bug.

http://hawthorn.csse.monash.edu.au/~...shield-bug.jpg

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Sandy Birrell

September 29th, 2004 12:11 AM

Insect ID ?

George Cleveland

September 29th, 2004 12:25 AM

Insect ID ?

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:11:02 GMT, "Sandy Birrell"
wrote:

George Cleveland wrote:
On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 11:11:07 -0700, Mark Tinsky wrote:

I would guess that they're leafhoppers. Thats the only bug I can think
of that would be close to "almost 5 sided".

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/r52301611.html

g.c.

Another one :) The shield bug.

http://hawthorn.csse.monash.edu.au/~...shield-bug.jpg

Thats one cool looking bug. I see its from an Ozzie site, do they live
in N.A.?

g.c.

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Sandy

brians

September 29th, 2004 12:26 AM

Insect ID ?

Sandy Birrell wrote:
brians wrote:

Sandy Birrell wrote:

Mark Tinsky wrote:

In article 5c_5d.122050$KU5.84312@edtnps89, Tim Lysyk
wrote:

Ill try to catch one of the little buggers. Yhe closest thing I can
liken them to is a leafhopper or an aphid.There were plenty
out tonite MT

It could be a Chironomid.

I was thinking the same thing. I've seen small, bright green midges
before, but it was on a lake. They did look a little like aphids in
color, but not shape.

brians

How about a lacewing? They are probably bigger than you saw though.

http://www.biocontrol.ucr.edu/photos...s/lacewing.jpg

No, definitely not a lacewing. I'm very familiar with lacewings, and
their aroma. The bugs I saw were much smaller than your average
mosquito. I'd say #22-24. The bright green color was about the only way
you could pick them out on the surface.

brians

Sarge

September 29th, 2004 01:13 AM

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Sandy wrote: "Another one :) The shield bug."

http://hawthorn.csse.monash.edu.au/~...shield-bug.jpg

Just don't smash these. They stink some bad. We call stink bugs.

Cyli	September 29th, 2004 08:35 AM

Insect ID ?

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 18:25:55 -0500, George Cleveland
wrote:

http://hawthorn.csse.monash.edu.au/~...shield-bug.jpg

Thats one cool looking bug. I see its from an Ozzie site, do they live
in N.A.?

g.c.

Something a whole lot like them does. I see them fairly frequently.
They're very cute. Never crushed one or even annoyed on, as I'm
always so fascinated by their shape and new spring leaf green colour.

Cyli
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Often taunted by trout.

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Sandy Birrell

September 29th, 2004 11:03 AM

Insect ID ?

George Cleveland wrote:
Thats one cool looking bug. I see its from an Ozzie site, do they live
in N.A.?

g.c.

It seems they are called Stinkbugs in N.A.

http://info.ag.uidaho.edu/keys/plates/plate27.htm

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