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snakefiddler September 27th, 2004 11:19 PM

fly fishing vancouver
 
there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this year
for christmas, and i would like to do some fishing while i'm there. i have
begun googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but i wondered if
anyone has had any personal experience. i will likely stick to fresh water
fishing, although i have not decided for sure. sal****er fishing would be
very convenient to my family's home, as i could venture on down the block at
any given moment and hit the water without having to be guided and driven
around, and i could get up and out while they are all still sleeping, but i
don't know what is in that water, and whether my rod is appropriate for that
kind of fishing. also, has anyone ever had any trouble flying with any of
this equipment? do the security folks go nuts over any of our stuff? any
input is appreciated.


thanks- snakefiddler



Svend Tang-Petersen September 27th, 2004 11:38 PM

fly fishing vancouver
 
snakefiddler wrote:

there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this year
for christmas, and i would like to do some fishing while i'm there. i have
begun googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but i wondered if
anyone has had any personal experience. i will likely stick to fresh water
fishing, although i have not decided for sure. sal****er fishing would be
very convenient to my family's home, as i could venture on down the block at
any given moment and hit the water without having to be guided and driven
around, and i could get up and out while they are all still sleeping, but i
don't know what is in that water, and whether my rod is appropriate for that
kind of fishing. also, has anyone ever had any trouble flying with any of
this equipment? do the security folks go nuts over any of our stuff? any
input is appreciated.

thanks- snakefiddler


Without having been there, Id guess that Vancouver around christmas mostly
would imply
ice fishing.

If you have a 'traditional' ff setup, I would not use that in sal****er.
Sal****er has a tendency to make
things corrode really fast, so the equipment is specifically designed for that
environment. Sal****er fish
also tend to be bigger and stronger, so your reel is most likely outmatched.


Svend Tang-Petersen September 27th, 2004 11:38 PM

fly fishing vancouver
 
snakefiddler wrote:

there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this year
for christmas, and i would like to do some fishing while i'm there. i have
begun googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but i wondered if
anyone has had any personal experience. i will likely stick to fresh water
fishing, although i have not decided for sure. sal****er fishing would be
very convenient to my family's home, as i could venture on down the block at
any given moment and hit the water without having to be guided and driven
around, and i could get up and out while they are all still sleeping, but i
don't know what is in that water, and whether my rod is appropriate for that
kind of fishing. also, has anyone ever had any trouble flying with any of
this equipment? do the security folks go nuts over any of our stuff? any
input is appreciated.

thanks- snakefiddler


Without having been there, Id guess that Vancouver around christmas mostly
would imply
ice fishing.

If you have a 'traditional' ff setup, I would not use that in sal****er.
Sal****er has a tendency to make
things corrode really fast, so the equipment is specifically designed for that
environment. Sal****er fish
also tend to be bigger and stronger, so your reel is most likely outmatched.


bugcaster September 28th, 2004 12:38 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this
year
for christmas,


Just assuming you mean Canada as you made reference to security. I know the
other Vancouver, USA, always likes to clear the location confusion.




snakefiddler September 28th, 2004 12:44 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 

"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
...
snakefiddler wrote:

there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this

year
for christmas, and i would like to do some fishing while i'm there. i

have
begun googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but i

wondered if
anyone has had any personal experience. i will likely stick to fresh

water
fishing, although i have not decided for sure. sal****er fishing would

be
very convenient to my family's home, as i could venture on down the

block at
any given moment and hit the water without having to be guided and

driven
around, and i could get up and out while they are all still sleeping,

but i
don't know what is in that water, and whether my rod is appropriate for

that
kind of fishing. also, has anyone ever had any trouble flying with any

of
this equipment? do the security folks go nuts over any of our stuff?

any
input is appreciated.

thanks- snakefiddler


Without having been there, Id guess that Vancouver around christmas mostly
would imply
ice fishing.


actually not. it rarley snows in vancouver in the winter, (although it did
last year)- that is mainly their rainy season, and the temps average in the
fifties, so fishing should be just fine.



If you have a 'traditional' ff setup, I would not use that in sal****er.
Sal****er has a tendency to make
things corrode really fast, so the equipment is specifically designed for

that
environment.


Sal****er fish
also tend to be bigger and stronger, so your reel is most likely

outmatched.

that is kind of what i was thinking- thanks

snakefiddler




snakefiddler September 28th, 2004 12:44 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 

"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
...
snakefiddler wrote:

there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this

year
for christmas, and i would like to do some fishing while i'm there. i

have
begun googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but i

wondered if
anyone has had any personal experience. i will likely stick to fresh

water
fishing, although i have not decided for sure. sal****er fishing would

be
very convenient to my family's home, as i could venture on down the

block at
any given moment and hit the water without having to be guided and

driven
around, and i could get up and out while they are all still sleeping,

but i
don't know what is in that water, and whether my rod is appropriate for

that
kind of fishing. also, has anyone ever had any trouble flying with any

of
this equipment? do the security folks go nuts over any of our stuff?

any
input is appreciated.

thanks- snakefiddler


Without having been there, Id guess that Vancouver around christmas mostly
would imply
ice fishing.


actually not. it rarley snows in vancouver in the winter, (although it did
last year)- that is mainly their rainy season, and the temps average in the
fifties, so fishing should be just fine.



If you have a 'traditional' ff setup, I would not use that in sal****er.
Sal****er has a tendency to make
things corrode really fast, so the equipment is specifically designed for

that
environment.


Sal****er fish
also tend to be bigger and stronger, so your reel is most likely

outmatched.

that is kind of what i was thinking- thanks

snakefiddler




snakefiddler September 28th, 2004 12:45 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 

"bugcaster" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this
year
for christmas,


Just assuming you mean Canada as you made reference to security. I know

the
other Vancouver, USA, always likes to clear the location confusion.


true- vancouver, canada

thanks-
snake






B J Conner September 28th, 2004 12:54 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 
Yep it's really cold up there. Only 15 today, most of the water is frozen
or will be soon.


"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
...
snakefiddler wrote:

there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this

year
for christmas, and i would like to do some fishing while i'm there. i

have
begun googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but i

wondered if
anyone has had any personal experience. i will likely stick to fresh

water
fishing, although i have not decided for sure. sal****er fishing would

be
very convenient to my family's home, as i could venture on down the

block at
any given moment and hit the water without having to be guided and

driven
around, and i could get up and out while they are all still sleeping,

but i
don't know what is in that water, and whether my rod is appropriate for

that
kind of fishing. also, has anyone ever had any trouble flying with any

of
this equipment? do the security folks go nuts over any of our stuff?

any
input is appreciated.

thanks- snakefiddler


Without having been there, Id guess that Vancouver around christmas mostly
would imply
ice fishing.

If you have a 'traditional' ff setup, I would not use that in sal****er.
Sal****er has a tendency to make
things corrode really fast, so the equipment is specifically designed for

that
environment. Sal****er fish
also tend to be bigger and stronger, so your reel is most likely

outmatched.




Allen Epps September 28th, 2004 01:28 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 
In article , snakefiddler
wrote:

"Svend Tang-Petersen" wrote in message
...

snipped

snakefiddler wrote:

If you have a 'traditional' ff setup, I would not use that in sal****er.
Sal****er has a tendency to make
things corrode really fast, so the equipment is specifically designed for

that
environment.


Sal****er fish
also tend to be bigger and stronger, so your reel is most likely

outmatched.

that is kind of what i was thinking- thanks

snakefiddler



Actually your 5/6 weight trout gear would be just fine for Sea Run
Cutthroats. I caught them off the shore quite a lot on Whidby and
Fidalgo islands. A gravely steep bank on a falling tide with a size six
or so flashy streamer almosty always netted a few. Not monsters but
usually in the 14 to 18 inch range. Here's what they look like.

http://www.axonhost.com/active/jimke...otos/fish2.jpg

And here's a typical fly "the crystal micky" down on the bottom of the
page of a site that may interest you anyway since it's out of Comox up
on the northern end of Vancouver Island

http://www.knightsofthenet.com/coval...00207/printabl
e.html

Just be sure and give your gear a good freshwater washdown and lube at
the end of the day and you won;t hurt it a bit. Of course if it goes to
pieces I'm sure Uncle Walt can hook you up! :)


Allen
Catonsville, MD

B J Conner September 28th, 2004 02:58 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...

"bugcaster" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this
year
for christmas,


Just assuming you mean Canada as you made reference to security. I know

the
other Vancouver, USA, always likes to clear the location confusion.


true- vancouver, canada

thanks-
snake

Cutthroat are a good bet. If you'r near the water and you get a halfway
nice day go for it. There pretty much hit and miss. Sometimes you find
them and sometimes you don't. Gravel beach with a few weeds out 20 or 30
yard ( make that 18-27 meters) is where I have found them. I believe a lot
of it is luck, you know clean living and all. They are where they are. I
have caught them in the city limits of Victoria but not in Vancouver.
Someday I want to try Stanley Park( if its leagle).
You will need some gaudy size 6 or 8 flies, something that looks like a
shrimp or similar critter. If you get into a passing school, you'll think
there more like bluegill than trout ( in the way they bite that is, they can
be very agressive ).
Be sure and check the rules, BC has lots of rules.
The outfit you use for trout should work fine. -There is an atical on
cutthroat in the December Fly Fisherman. The artical is targeted at Puget
Sound but Vancouver is essentially the same water.
I'm jealous, that's a lovely part of the world even in December.



snakefiddler September 28th, 2004 03:41 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 

"B J Conner" wrote in message
news:iz36d.5237$ku4.880@trnddc01...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...

"bugcaster" wrote in message
...

"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again

this
year
for christmas,

Just assuming you mean Canada as you made reference to security. I

know
the
other Vancouver, USA, always likes to clear the location confusion.


true- vancouver, canada

thanks-
snake

Cutthroat are a good bet. If you'r near the water and you get a halfway
nice day go for it. There pretty much hit and miss. Sometimes you find
them and sometimes you don't. Gravel beach with a few weeds out 20 or 30
yard ( make that 18-27 meters) is where I have found them. I believe a

lot
of it is luck, you know clean living and all. They are where they are. I
have caught them in the city limits of Victoria but not in Vancouver.
Someday I want to try Stanley Park( if its leagle).


i am going to visit family i have there, and they are fortunate to live a
matter of walking distance from stanley park. i'll have them check into the
fishing regulations for the park itself.



You will need some gaudy size 6 or 8 flies, something that looks like a
shrimp or similar critter. If you get into a passing school, you'll think
there more like bluegill than trout ( in the way they bite that is, they

can
be very agressive ).
Be sure and check the rules, BC has lots of rules.


yeah, i have bookmarked some related web-sites. seems you have to have this
stamp, and that stamp- but i'll get it all figured out.

The outfit you use for trout should work fine.


cool

-There is an atical on
cutthroat in the December Fly Fisherman. The artical is targeted at Puget
Sound but Vancouver is essentially the same water.


thanks for that info- very much appreciated.


I'm jealous, that's a lovely part of the world even in December.


it certainly is- it is nature at her finest to be sure. my maternal aunt
and her husband have a townhouse in vancouver, and my grandmother has an
apartment there. my uncle-in-law is the chairman of the dep't of economics
at simon frasier, and my aunt is the director of a school/camp for at risk
children out that way. they have been there for some time, and even still
they say they have to pinch themselves becasue as they say, "it's so good-
it's just ridiculous", with the statement always being followed by giggles
of delight. i have been fortunate to have been there in both winter and
summer, and wish that i had beenfishing at that time, but i am looking
forward to giving it a shot while i'm there this winter.

thanks again-
snake





Jarmo Hurri September 28th, 2004 08:34 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 

snakefiddler there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to
snakefiddler vancouver again this year for christmas, and i would
snakefiddler like to do some fishing while i'm there. i have begun
snakefiddler googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but
snakefiddler i wondered if anyone has had any personal experience.

I was on a short visit to Vancouver in mid-December a couple of years
ago. I went fishing on three days: once with Ralph H., who's a really
nice guy and will probably give you some very good info, once by
myself and once with a guide. The weather varied between very good
(sunny and warm) and lousy (hard rain); the temperature remained above
the freezing point the whole time.

It is my understanding that in terms of fishing, this was the quietest
time of year. There were still some coho in the rivers in decent
shape, but that seemed to be somewhat exceptional. We also tried to
target resident trout (cutthroat, I guess). I hooked a couple of
cohos, but didn't land anything. Here are some pictures I took on the
trip:

http://www.cis.hut.fi/jarmo/fishing/bc-2002/

There's a really good forum on B.C. fishing, you might want to post
your question there (I think that Ralph is more active here):

http://forum.fishbc.com/

--
Jarmo Hurri

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or just use .

brians September 28th, 2004 09:56 PM

fly fishing vancouver
 
Jarmo Hurri wrote:
There's a really good forum on B.C. fishing, you might want to post
your question there (I think that Ralph is more active here):

http://forum.fishbc.com/


Ditto what Jarmo said. You should get plenty of info from the above
forum. Just make sure they know your new to fly fishing, and a single
lady. Look what it's done for you here. ;-)

brians


brians September 28th, 2004 09:56 PM

fly fishing vancouver
 
Jarmo Hurri wrote:
There's a really good forum on B.C. fishing, you might want to post
your question there (I think that Ralph is more active here):

http://forum.fishbc.com/


Ditto what Jarmo said. You should get plenty of info from the above
forum. Just make sure they know your new to fly fishing, and a single
lady. Look what it's done for you here. ;-)

brians


snakefiddler September 29th, 2004 01:01 PM

fly fishing vancouver
 

"brians" wrote in message
...
Jarmo Hurri wrote:
There's a really good forum on B.C. fishing, you might want to post
your question there (I think that Ralph is more active here):

http://forum.fishbc.com/


Ditto what Jarmo said. You should get plenty of info from the above
forum. Just make sure they know your new to fly fishing, and a single
lady. Look what it's done for you here. ;-)

brians


that was a smiley i saw after that statement, right? ;-)
anyway, i'll check out the site-thanks, guys.

snakefiddler




RalphH September 30th, 2004 02:13 AM

fly fishing vancouver
 
there's some sort of fishing within a day trip of Vancouver any day of the
year. I am afraid there isn't much fishing in Stanley Park excepting netting
smelt in late spring. There is ocean fishing in the outer harbour year
round. It can be very good in the summer and it is possible to fly fish off
the beaches in North and West Vancouver then for coho. Most of the rest of
the year requires a comfortable boat.

By Xmas river salmon fishing is over though there may be the odd fish (I
caught a coho similar to the one on Jarmo's site on Super Bowl Sunday in
2003). The most likely freshwater opportunities are in on the Fraser and
Harrison Rivers for cutthroat trout near the Chilliwack and Agassiz area of
the Fraser Valley. Most other streams up the valley will have some trout at
that time. Most fishing will be with egg patterns and flesh style flies.
Nymphs and small wooly buggers and micro-leeches will also catch fish. This
when the largest fish of the year are caught - often well over 20 inches.
However I've found cutthroat fishing the last few years hasn't been that
good.

There will also be good prospects in the Vedder/Chilliwack River near
Chilliwack - but that river will be very crowded if there are any fish.
North of vancouver, the Squamish River has bull trout (a char) and that can
be good.

You do need a car and a couple hours of driving time to reach these spots.
You can combine a fishing trip with a nice soak in the hot springs at
harrison Hot Spings in the area or stay a night or 2 at the resort there.

Some people have mentioned beach fishing for cutthroat. There isn't a lot of
that near vancouver. There is some in the Port Moody area to the east. The
best is up Indian Arm (a good boat is required - not recommended in winter)
and in the Gibson's Sechelt area - reached by car ferry.

Fishing the ocean requires a separate license from freshwater.

I'm not sure what tackle you have - a 5 to 7weight rod will do for trout.
Few fly fish the Vedder until late winter - preferred tackle for that is a 2
handed rod.

Feel free to drop me an email if you need more detail.

--

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"snakefiddler" wrote in message
...
there's a good chance that i'll be heading out to vancouver again this

year
for christmas, and i would like to do some fishing while i'm there. i

have
begun googling up some resources for fly fishing the area, but i wondered

if
anyone has had any personal experience. i will likely stick to fresh

water
fishing, although i have not decided for sure. sal****er fishing would be
very convenient to my family's home, as i could venture on down the block

at
any given moment and hit the water without having to be guided and driven
around, and i could get up and out while they are all still sleeping, but

i
don't know what is in that water, and whether my rod is appropriate for

that
kind of fishing. also, has anyone ever had any trouble flying with any of
this equipment? do the security folks go nuts over any of our stuff? any
input is appreciated.


thanks- snakefiddler






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