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I've fished for a large number of years, mostly for panfish, using a
standard casting combination; however, fly fishing looks quite intriguing. During my investigation of equipment, I've gotten quite confused with the different specifications for line weights, reels, leaders, flys, etc. Can anyone give me an idea of where to start. I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is better than single weight, or that double taper is the best ... whatever that is. Also, what type of reel? Single, multiplier, etc? I don't want to spend a lot of money. It will be just something to do on the weekend with my son. Also, if there are any recommended online stores from which to buy, that would be good too. Your input is greatly appreciated!!! Paul -- ================================================== =============== Photography + Vision = Photogravision http://www.photogravision.com Please stop by. Thanks |
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Don Phillipson wrote:
"Paul Lester" wrote in message .. . I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is better than single weight, or that double taper is the best Buy from a local FF specialist store, if there is one and if you trust its advice. If not, choose a balanced outfit from a reliable mail-order vendor for total cost over $100 and under $250. .. . . or Frank Church will send you a complete kit for free. ;-) -- TL, Tim (who loves ya, Franky?) http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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-- Bill Kiene Kiene's Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA Web site: www.kiene.com "Paul Lester" wrote in message .. . I've fished for a large number of years, mostly for panfish, using a standard casting combination; however, fly fishing looks quite intriguing. During my investigation of equipment, I've gotten quite confused with the different specifications for line weights, reels, leaders, flys, etc. Can anyone give me an idea of where to start. I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is better than single weight, or that double taper is the best ... whatever that is. Also, what type of reel? Single, multiplier, etc? I don't want to spend a lot of money. It will be just something to do on the weekend with my son. Also, if there are any recommended online stores from which to buy, that would be good too. Your input is greatly appreciated!!! Paul -- ================================================== =============== Photography + Vision = Photogravision http://www.photogravision.com Please stop by. Thanks |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222
: Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it. Scott |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222
: Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it. Scott |
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"Paul Lester" wrote in message
.. . I've fished for a large number of years, mostly for panfish, using a standard casting combination; however, fly fishing looks quite intriguing. During my investigation of equipment, I've gotten quite confused with the different specifications for line weights, reels, leaders, flys, etc. Can anyone give me an idea of where to start. I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is SNIP At Wally World (Wal Mart) Scientific Angler has a kit for about $100. Also try the link here http://www.iflyshop.com/scientific-outfits.asp Jack in El Paso ----- ***** ----- SFC, USA (Ret, 1971-93) Life member NRA (1967) Life member TSRA (1990) Member USPSA (1990) NROI Range Officer (1991) A. F. & A. M. TX Ldg 1393 |
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"Paul Lester" wrote in message
.. . I've fished for a large number of years, mostly for panfish, using a standard casting combination; however, fly fishing looks quite intriguing. During my investigation of equipment, I've gotten quite confused with the different specifications for line weights, reels, leaders, flys, etc. Can anyone give me an idea of where to start. I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is SNIP At Wally World (Wal Mart) Scientific Angler has a kit for about $100. Also try the link here http://www.iflyshop.com/scientific-outfits.asp Jack in El Paso ----- ***** ----- SFC, USA (Ret, 1971-93) Life member NRA (1967) Life member TSRA (1990) Member USPSA (1990) NROI Range Officer (1991) A. F. & A. M. TX Ldg 1393 |
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Don Phillipson wrote:
Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is better than single weight, or that double taper is the best Buy from a local FF specialist store, if there is one and if you trust its advice. If not, choose a balanced outfit from a reliable mail-order vendor for total cost over $100 and under $250. Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. These figures suggest line weight 6 or 7. You do not need a heavier outfit or a more delicate one (cf. midge fishing for trout.) Leaders should be 9 ft. or longer, of the right tippet size for the fly size (see books.) Start with a floating line because it is easier to pick up off the water. Double-taper offers more delicacy under 40 ft, weight-forward offers more distance (over 60 ft.) so you can choose according to your usual fishing distance, wading or from a boat etc. Wading needs a rod 8 feet or longer (except in thick bush). The reel is irrelevant until your first fish big enough to take out all 100 ft. of fly line and get into the backing. Then you want one with a reliably smooth drag. Several $10 reels are 90 pct as good as $100+ reels. The guy said he's going after Bluegill and Crappie in smaller lakes and ponds. A 6 or 7 weight would be overkill, IMO. A 5, 4 or even a 3 would be much more fun. Willi |
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On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote:
"Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222 : Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it. I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing a lot more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom sets in ;-) /daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-) |
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On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote:
"Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222 : Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it. I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing a lot more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom sets in ;-) /daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-) |
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daytripper wrote in
: On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: "Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222 : Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it. I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing a lot more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom sets in ;-) /daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-) Would it be harder to learn to cast with a 3-wt? Scott |
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Thanks! I would assume that a 3 weight is a lighter line and that the
higher numbered flys are smaller ... man, I need a book ... I don't know what I'm talking about. Just thinking about it, I would guess that with a lightweight line and a lightweight fly that I can't cast very far. I'm really excited to try it. I saw some combos at Wal-mart, but they were all 6 weight. Looks like I'll have to pick up that Fly Fishing for Dummies book that I saw yesterday. Paul "daytripper" wrote in message ... On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: "Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222 : Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it. I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing a lot more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom sets in ;-) /daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-) |
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"Paul Lester" wrote in
: Thanks! I would assume that a 3 weight is a lighter line and that the higher numbered flys are smaller ... man, I need a book ... I don't know what I'm talking about. Just thinking about it, I would guess that with a lightweight line and a lightweight fly that I can't cast very far. I'm really excited to try it. I saw some combos at Wal-mart, but they were all 6 weight. Looks like I'll have to pick up that Fly Fishing for Dummies book that I saw yesterday. Paul I would recommend the Orvis Flyfishing Guide by Tom Rosenbauer. You can get it online at Orvis (follow the trail to flyfishing accessories/books and videos) at any Orvis shop, or many flyfishing shops. It's a great beginners guide, and about the same price as any "Dummies" book. Scott |
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Scott Seidman wrote:
Would it be harder to learn to cast with a 3-wt? Scott I think it depends more on the rod/line combo and the person using it. I took a guy out to my home river last year who was new to fly fishing. When we got to the river, I found that he couldn't cast well enough to be able to catch a fish. I worked with him a bit with the 6 weight outfit he brought with and didn't make much progress. I decided to let him try the 4 weight (I know it's not a 3 weight) I was going to use and in short order he was casting, not well but good enough to catch a couple fish. Willi |
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On 4 Oct 2004 22:36:17 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote:
daytripper wrote in : On 4 Oct 2004 12:13:26 GMT, Scott Seidman wrote: "Don Phillipson" wrote in news:s118d.2222 : Line weight is governed by the size of fly you want to cast -- for panfish, probably #16 as the smallest dry fly to size #2 streamers. I think you could successfully fish a long time for bluegill without ever going above a size 10 popper. Personally, I'd go closer to a 3-wt than a 6 wt. Perhaps 4wt would be the best compromise. There are some situations that might be unfishable with a 3-wt, but you'll have a nicer time the 80% of the time you can fish with it. I totally agree on the 3 weight. Not only would it make the panfishing a lot more fun, it'd leave room for a 5 weight when the gear-whoredom sets in ;-) /daytripper (buying adviser to the stars ;-) Would it be harder to learn to cast with a 3-wt? I would think that would only be the case if one was dealing with wind. That's the wild card. All else equal (rod action, for instance) and with a leader appropriate for the line and lure, with any properly mated rod and line the casting stroke should be essentially the same regardless of weight. /daytripper (that's my story and I'm sticking to it ;-) |
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Paul wrote:Thanks! I would assume that a 3 weight is a lighter line and that
the higher numbered flys are smaller ... man, I need a book ... I don't know what I'm talking about. Just thinking about it, I would guess that with a lightweight line and a lightweight fly that I can't cast very far. I'm really excited to try it. I saw some combos at Wal-mart, but they were all 6 weight. Looks like I'll have to pick up that Fly Fishing for Dummies book that I saw yesterday. Paul Please go to WWW.FFF.org amd seek out the nearest fly fishing club and seek help there. Most offer classes where you will learn the basics and join them on one of their outings where you will have a chance to learn to play. Our local Bass Pro offers free classes every Saturday to introduce you to the sport. Something similar should be available at most fly shops. They need you to learn so you can spend money there. We all spend way too much money on our hobbies. Big Dale |
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"Tim J." wrote in message news:J818d.65404$He1.29595@attbi_s01... Don Phillipson wrote: "Paul Lester" wrote in message .. . I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is better than single weight, or that double taper is the best Buy from a local FF specialist store, if there is one and if you trust its advice. If not, choose a balanced outfit from a reliable mail-order vendor for total cost over $100 and under $250. . . . or Frank Church will send you a complete kit for free. ;-) -- TL, Tim (who loves ya, Franky?) http://css.sbcma.com/timj only if ya ask real nice, and bat your eyelashes at him.... SEG sanke- who knew those false lashes would be good for something one day ;-) |
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message . 1.4... I would recommend the Orvis Flyfishing Guide by Tom Rosenbauer. You can get it online at Orvis (follow the trail to flyfishing accessories/books and videos) at any Orvis shop, or many flyfishing shops. It's a great beginners guide, and about the same price as any "Dummies" book. Scott Books and videos are good, but I would have to say, a hands on class or better yet, a one on one session with an instructor is best. And of course lots of practicing. Take it slow, and learn your basics. It's harder to correct someone with a bad habit than it is for someone who is just starting. As for set-up, you can always rent or borrow the equipment before you make a purchase. I would also stay away from on line purchases for flyrods, even thought you can get good deals. It's best to cast the rod with the correct weight line to get a good feel of the rod action. -tom |
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Big Dale wrote:
Please go to WWW.FFF.org amd seek out the nearest fly fishing club I'm bettin' Big Dale meant http://www.fedflyfishers.org/ HTH, Russell |
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Russel wrote:
I'm bettin' Big Dale meant http://www.fedflyfishers.org/ HTH, Russell Thanks for fixing my screwup. I am going to have to wake up before posting. Big Dale |
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"Paul Lester" wrote in message t...
Thanks! I would assume that a 3 weight is a lighter line and that the higher numbered flys are smaller ... man, I need a book ... I don't know what I'm talking about. Just thinking about it, I would guess that with a lightweight line and a lightweight fly that I can't cast very far. I'm really excited to try it. I saw some combos at Wal-mart, but they were all 6 weight. Stop all the nonsense, Paul. Get the damn six weight kit. It's excellent to learn on. Take it home and spend an hour in the front yard getting the timing thing in your head. You won't usually find crappie in small ponds, so will have to make fairly decent casts. Get a half-dozen weighted streamer flys and do the best you can for distance. Let the streamer sink a couple feet and start a very, very slow retrieve. When it seems your fly is not coming in, it's probably a crappie sitting there holding the fly in its mouth. Set the hook and have fun. Bluegill? Well, just do what seems natural and it'll work. |
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On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:07:47 -0400, "Paul Lester"
wrote: I've fished for a large number of years, mostly for panfish, using a standard casting combination; however, fly fishing looks quite intriguing. During my investigation of equipment, I've gotten quite confused with the different specifications for line weights, reels, leaders, flys, etc. Can anyone give me an idea of where to start. I want to fish some of the smaller lakes and ponds, from shore, for panfish. Primarily bluegill, crappie, etc. From what I've read, perhaps 5 weight or 6 weight would work for me, and I understand that weight-forward line is better than single weight, or that double taper is the best ... whatever that is. Also, what type of reel? Single, multiplier, etc? I don't want to spend a lot of money. It will be just something to do on the weekend with my son. Also, if there are any recommended online stores from which to buy, that would be good too. Your input is greatly appreciated!!! Paul FWIW. I would say a 5 or 6 wt. and a DT floating line to learn with. The lighter wts would be more fun with pan fish but if it gets a tad windy its just going to **** you off, and if you are mad it ain't fun. (don't get me wrong, as you are learning no matter what wt you have the wind is something you will sooner or later have to deal with.) You may be tempted to go with a DT line but I would say no. True you may have more ease getting a little longer casts, but DT lines are not as easy to roll cast. Being able to do a good roll cast is key and will save you heart ache in the end. As well... if you learn with a DT line, the first time you use a WF line you will feel like a stud. ;-) Get a book.(s) reading is good for you! Get a video. Practice. Take a class (if you can) Be Patient. Have Fun. Relax..............That is what it is all about. |
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Goat wrote:
FWIW. I would say a 5 or 6 wt. and a DT floating line to learn with. The lighter wts would be more fun with pan fish but if it gets a tad windy its just going to **** you off, and if you are mad it ain't fun. (don't get me wrong, as you are learning no matter what wt you have the wind is something you will sooner or later have to deal with.) You may be tempted to go with a DT line but I would say no. True you may have more ease getting a little longer casts, but DT lines are not as easy to roll cast. Being able to do a good roll cast is key and will save you heart ache in the end. Although I don't think there is much difference between the two in terms casting, it's been "generally accepted" that DT lines roll cast better and WF lines are better for distance. IMO, with the different tapers made today, generalizations like that can't be made. Personally I use DT lines for lighter rods (mainly because you can reverse them and get two lines out of them) and WF for heavier rods because I think they generally give you a bit more distance. Willi |
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On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 21:14:34 -0600, Willi & Sue wrote:
Goat wrote: FWIW. I would say a 5 or 6 wt. and a DT floating line to learn with. The lighter wts would be more fun with pan fish but if it gets a tad windy its just going to **** you off, and if you are mad it ain't fun. (don't get me wrong, as you are learning no matter what wt you have the wind is something you will sooner or later have to deal with.) You may be tempted to go with a DT line but I would say no. True you may have more ease getting a little longer casts, but DT lines are not as easy to roll cast. Being able to do a good roll cast is key and will save you heart ache in the end. Although I don't think there is much difference between the two in terms casting, it's been "generally accepted" that DT lines roll cast better and WF lines are better for distance. IMO, with the different tapers made today, generalizations like that can't be made. Personally I use DT lines for lighter rods (mainly because you can reverse them and get two lines out of them) and WF for heavier rods because I think they generally give you a bit more distance. It might be the tapers I buy, but from where I'm casting, there is no doubt that the typical Double Taper is easier to roll cast at distance, and is easier to mend, than the typical Weight Forward line; and further, because of the thinner running line, the typical WF line is better at distance casting than the DT. Zero doubt... /daytripper (Red Sox Win! Yankees Lose! Edwards exposes Doctor Evil for the rich lying hypocritical crank he is. It's been a great day! ;-) |
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daytripper wrote:
Willi & Sue wrote: Goat wrote: FWIW. I would say a 5 or 6 wt. and a DT floating line to learn with. The lighter wts would be more fun with pan fish but if it gets a tad windy its just going to **** you off, and if you are mad it ain't fun. (don't get me wrong, as you are learning no matter what wt you have the wind is something you will sooner or later have to deal with.) You may be tempted to go with a DT line but I would say no. True you may have more ease getting a little longer casts, but DT lines are not as easy to roll cast. Being able to do a good roll cast is key and will save you heart ache in the end. Although I don't think there is much difference between the two in terms casting, it's been "generally accepted" that DT lines roll cast better and WF lines are better for distance. IMO, with the different tapers made today, generalizations like that can't be made. Personally I use DT lines for lighter rods (mainly because you can reverse them and get two lines out of them) and WF for heavier rods because I think they generally give you a bit more distance. It might be the tapers I buy, but from where I'm casting, there is no doubt that the typical Double Taper is easier to roll cast at distance, and is easier to mend, than the typical Weight Forward line; and further, because of the thinner running line, the typical WF line is better at distance casting than the DT. Zero doubt... /daytripper (Red Sox Win! Yankees Lose! Yes, it was a good day for Sox fans. Edwards exposes Doctor Evil for the rich lying hypocritical crank he is. So that would make Edwards Kerry's Mini-me? If I heard "John Kerry and I have a plan" one more time I would have puked. Did he EVER get a sentence out that didn't include the words John Kerry? It's been a great day! Hey, one out of two wins ain't all bad. ;-) -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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Tim J. wrote:
So that would make Edwards Kerry's Mini-me? If I heard "John Kerry and I have a plan" one more time I would have puked. Did he EVER get a sentence out that didn't include the words John Kerry? John Kerry is the guy running for President. How was Edwards supposed to refer to him? "My esteemed colleague"? -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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rw wrote:
Tim J. wrote: So that would make Edwards Kerry's Mini-me? If I heard "John Kerry and I have a plan" one more time I would have puked. Did he EVER get a sentence out that didn't include the words John Kerry? John Kerry is the guy running for President. How was Edwards supposed to refer to him? "My esteemed colleague"? How about "we" once in a while? He came across as someone who believed if he repeated "John Kerry" enough, voters would stumble to the voting booth and instinctively remember the name. -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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William Claspy wrote in
: For those of you who followed the debate on MSNBC or CNN, those booths were within yards of my office. Blitzer needed my parking space, so I watched the proceedings from the comfort of my couch. Cool. I'd have loved to have spent yesterday evening at the Barking Spider, taking in the University Circle goings-on. Is it still there? Scott |
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William Claspy wrote in
: For those of you who followed the debate on MSNBC or CNN, those booths were within yards of my office. Blitzer needed my parking space, so I watched the proceedings from the comfort of my couch. Cool. I'd have loved to have spent yesterday evening at the Barking Spider, taking in the University Circle goings-on. Is it still there? Scott |
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William Claspy wrote:
More telling, I think, was that Darth didn't mention his boss's name once! As if there was ever any doubt about who is in charge in this administration ... For those of you who followed the debate on MSNBC or CNN, those booths were within yards of my office. Blitzer needed my parking space, so I watched the proceedings from the comfort of my couch. I was wondering how it might have affected you. Were there lots of guys in dark suits with earphones coming into the library to ask to see patron records? Chuck Vance |
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On 10/6/04 1:19 PM, in article , "Conan the
Librarian" wrote: For those of you who followed the debate on MSNBC or CNN, those booths were within yards of my office. Blitzer needed my parking space, so I watched the proceedings from the comfort of my couch. I was wondering how it might have affected you. Were there lots of guys in dark suits with earphones coming into the library to ask to see patron records? Guys in dark suits? Lots. They've been on campus since March, apparently. I'm not able to confirm or deny if anyone has or has not asked to see your library record. HTH, Bill |
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On 10/6/04 1:19 PM, in article , "Conan the
Librarian" wrote: For those of you who followed the debate on MSNBC or CNN, those booths were within yards of my office. Blitzer needed my parking space, so I watched the proceedings from the comfort of my couch. I was wondering how it might have affected you. Were there lots of guys in dark suits with earphones coming into the library to ask to see patron records? Guys in dark suits? Lots. They've been on campus since March, apparently. I'm not able to confirm or deny if anyone has or has not asked to see your library record. HTH, Bill |
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On 10/6/04 1:18 PM, in article
, "Scott Seidman" wrote: William Claspy wrote in : For those of you who followed the debate on MSNBC or CNN, those booths were within yards of my office. Blitzer needed my parking space, so I watched the proceedings from the comfort of my couch. Cool. I'd have loved to have spent yesterday evening at the Barking Spider, taking in the University Circle goings-on. Is it still there? Indeed, Martin is still serving up suds and good music seven days a week. It was a crazy busy neighborhood yesterday, and I think the Spider would have been a good choice for a place to take it all in. Bill |
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William Claspy wrote in news:BD89ADA1.3FB0%
: Indeed, Martin is still serving up suds and good music seven days a week. It was a crazy busy neighborhood yesterday, and I think the Spider would have been a good choice for a place to take it all in. Bill Wow-- name from the past. IIRC, when I was last in Cleveland Martin was recovering from a bad accident (or was it his girlfriend??-- Defense time gets a tad fuzzy!) Scott |
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On 10/6/04 2:18 PM, in article
, "Scott Seidman" wrote: William Claspy wrote in news:BD89ADA1.3FB0% : Indeed, Martin is still serving up suds and good music seven days a week. It was a crazy busy neighborhood yesterday, and I think the Spider would have been a good choice for a place to take it all in. Bill Wow-- name from the past. IIRC, when I was last in Cleveland Martin was recovering from a bad accident (or was it his girlfriend??-- Defense time gets a tad fuzzy!) Nah, that was me, Scott. :-) I'm not exactly a bar fly, but the Spider is right at the top of my list of favorite places to have a beer. Bill |
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William Claspy wrote in
: Wow-- name from the past. IIRC, when I was last in Cleveland Martin was recovering from a bad accident (or was it his girlfriend??-- Defense time gets a tad fuzzy!) Nah, that was me, Scott. :-) Man, I hope things weren't THAT fuzzy- Hey-- I heard the Euc closed! Is this true? For those (perhaps all) not in the know, the Euclid Tavern was a great bar, not far from the unversity. It had the best graffiti in the john that I've ever seen (for example--"This gum tastes funny" on the condom machine). Before I got to Cleveland, a Michael J Fox movie was filmed there. Legend has it that they put a fresh coat of paint over the whole room before filming started. During filming, on one of the stall doors, somebody wrote "Michael J Fox smokes butt hairs" and a short time later "Filter tips only" appeared under the original scrawl, w/ Fox's signature underneath Scott |
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William Claspy wrote in
: Wow-- name from the past. IIRC, when I was last in Cleveland Martin was recovering from a bad accident (or was it his girlfriend??-- Defense time gets a tad fuzzy!) Nah, that was me, Scott. :-) Man, I hope things weren't THAT fuzzy- Hey-- I heard the Euc closed! Is this true? For those (perhaps all) not in the know, the Euclid Tavern was a great bar, not far from the unversity. It had the best graffiti in the john that I've ever seen (for example--"This gum tastes funny" on the condom machine). Before I got to Cleveland, a Michael J Fox movie was filmed there. Legend has it that they put a fresh coat of paint over the whole room before filming started. During filming, on one of the stall doors, somebody wrote "Michael J Fox smokes butt hairs" and a short time later "Filter tips only" appeared under the original scrawl, w/ Fox's signature underneath Scott |
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