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Christopher P. Cericola October 8th, 2004 12:51 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
I was looking at the open/elite 50 trail for next year and they had a
paragraph about riders will now have a 3-fish limit but will get to count
their driver's 5-fish limit to their total? I thought a bit about this but
it just doesn't seem to sit well with me. It is possible that a person with
no fishing ability could pay the entry fee, do nothing, and still place
somewhere in the money because of their driver.

In fact, a good rider could be punished with a bad driver while a bad rider
could benefit from a great driver.

Am I misunderstanding this or does this really seem as bad as I think it
sounds?



Joe Z October 8th, 2004 01:49 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Sounds like they are copying what the walleye trails have done for years.
Joe Z.

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...
I was looking at the open/elite 50 trail for next year and they had a
paragraph about riders will now have a 3-fish limit but will get to count
their driver's 5-fish limit to their total? I thought a bit about this but
it just doesn't seem to sit well with me. It is possible that a person with
no fishing ability could pay the entry fee, do nothing, and still place
somewhere in the money because of their driver.

In fact, a good rider could be punished with a bad driver while a bad rider
could benefit from a great driver.

Am I misunderstanding this or does this really seem as bad as I think it
sounds?




go-bassn October 8th, 2004 04:50 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
You get in the back of Shaw Grigsby's rig while he's bed-fishing & you'll be
glad his weight counts lol...

Warren

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...
I was looking at the open/elite 50 trail for next year and they had a
paragraph about riders will now have a 3-fish limit but will get to count
their driver's 5-fish limit to their total? I thought a bit about this

but
it just doesn't seem to sit well with me. It is possible that a person

with
no fishing ability could pay the entry fee, do nothing, and still place
somewhere in the money because of their driver.

In fact, a good rider could be punished with a bad driver while a bad

rider
could benefit from a great driver.

Am I misunderstanding this or does this really seem as bad as I think it
sounds?





Christopher P. Cericola October 8th, 2004 05:05 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You get in the back of Shaw Grigsby's rig while he's bed-fishing & you'll
be glad his weight counts lol...

THat's my point..winning the rider side isn't necessarily skill anymore..all
it takes is being partenered with a very skilled pro. As a rider, I could
cull 3 bass for 12 lbs which is a pretty decent limit..but get killed
because my driver sleeps at the wheel.

Christopher



go-bassn October 8th, 2004 05:27 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
No offense Chris, but you've got it backwards.

WW

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You get in the back of Shaw Grigsby's rig while he's bed-fishing &

you'll
be glad his weight counts lol...

THat's my point..winning the rider side isn't necessarily skill

anymore..all
it takes is being partenered with a very skilled pro. As a rider, I could
cull 3 bass for 12 lbs which is a pretty decent limit..but get killed
because my driver sleeps at the wheel.

Christopher





Christopher P. Cericola October 8th, 2004 05:48 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
No offense Chris, but you've got it backwards.

Got it backwards? How so?

Christopher



go-bassn October 8th, 2004 07:31 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little to do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

Warren

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
No offense Chris, but you've got it backwards.

Got it backwards? How so?

Christopher





Christopher P. Cericola October 8th, 2004 07:41 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little to do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

I see your point. But I think with this combined weight it will really show
that more and remove any competition on the rider side.

BTW - I haven't heard from Bill so I'm assuming there was no rider seat
available for either the next two tournies?

Christopher



Thundercat October 8th, 2004 08:41 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:41:53 -0400, "Christopher P. Cericola"
wrote:


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little to do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

I see your point. But I think with this combined weight it will really show
that more and remove any competition on the rider side.

BTW - I haven't heard from Bill so I'm assuming there was no rider seat
available for either the next two tournies?

Christopher


I believe you are paired up for Round Valley with Bill. I could be
wrong, but that's the way I remember it going down. I have to suffer
behind the human vacuum for that tournament and hope he leaves a dink
or two for me. I can see it now: 50 fish caught, 0 fish weighed...all
11 3/4 inches long. Warren 5 fish 21bs...If we don't sink, that is.
:-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.

Christopher P. Cericola October 8th, 2004 09:00 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 

"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
human vacuum

Warren?

Christopher



go-bassn October 8th, 2004 10:47 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
You are correct, Chris is with Bill at RVR. No seat on the river for him
unfortunately.

As for you Harry, just call me "Hoover". lol, we'll have a blast (if we
don't sink).

Warren


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:41:53 -0400, "Christopher P. Cericola"
wrote:


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little to

do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

I see your point. But I think with this combined weight it will really

show
that more and remove any competition on the rider side.

BTW - I haven't heard from Bill so I'm assuming there was no rider seat
available for either the next two tournies?

Christopher


I believe you are paired up for Round Valley with Bill. I could be
wrong, but that's the way I remember it going down. I have to suffer
behind the human vacuum for that tournament and hope he leaves a dink
or two for me. I can see it now: 50 fish caught, 0 fish weighed...all
11 3/4 inches long. Warren 5 fish 21bs...If we don't sink, that is.
:-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.




Christopher P. Cericola October 9th, 2004 12:26 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
No seat on the river for him unfortunately.

Not a big deal - I wasn't 100% sure but I'm in a buddy tournament down on
Union. It's not like I liked the Delaware. :)

Christopher



go-bassn October 9th, 2004 01:47 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Tri-Stater's love the Delaware ...

WW

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
No seat on the river for him unfortunately.

Not a big deal - I wasn't 100% sure but I'm in a buddy tournament down on
Union. It's not like I liked the Delaware. :)

Christopher





Christopher P. Cericola October 9th, 2004 02:57 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Tri-Stater's love the Delaware ...

You love running your boats fast. :) Ya get those pics?

Christopher



alwaysfishking October 9th, 2004 03:19 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Good luck Harry.. hey Warren isn't that where you caught that 10 lber? I'll
be fishing the shore for trout :-)...not!!!!!!!!!!


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:41:53 -0400, "Christopher P. Cericola"
wrote:


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little to

do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

I see your point. But I think with this combined weight it will really

show
that more and remove any competition on the rider side.

BTW - I haven't heard from Bill so I'm assuming there was no rider seat
available for either the next two tournies?

Christopher


I believe you are paired up for Round Valley with Bill. I could be
wrong, but that's the way I remember it going down. I have to suffer
behind the human vacuum for that tournament and hope he leaves a dink
or two for me. I can see it now: 50 fish caught, 0 fish weighed...all
11 3/4 inches long. Warren 5 fish 21bs...If we don't sink, that is.
:-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.




go-bassn October 9th, 2004 04:16 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
True. Pics? What pics?

Warren

--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Tri-Stater's love the Delaware ...

You love running your boats fast. :) Ya get those pics?

Christopher




go-bassn October 9th, 2004 04:17 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Lol 10 pounder? I said it was BIG lol.

We always fish there in the spring when the bass are "up". This could be a
very tough early-fall tournament.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Good luck Harry.. hey Warren isn't that where you caught that 10 lber?
I'll
be fishing the shore for trout :-)...not!!!!!!!!!!


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:41:53 -0400, "Christopher P. Cericola"
wrote:


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little
to

do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

I see your point. But I think with this combined weight it will really

show
that more and remove any competition on the rider side.

BTW - I haven't heard from Bill so I'm assuming there was no rider seat
available for either the next two tournies?

Christopher


I believe you are paired up for Round Valley with Bill. I could be
wrong, but that's the way I remember it going down. I have to suffer
behind the human vacuum for that tournament and hope he leaves a dink
or two for me. I can see it now: 50 fish caught, 0 fish weighed...all
11 3/4 inches long. Warren 5 fish 21bs...If we don't sink, that is.
:-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.






Christopher P. Cericola October 9th, 2004 11:38 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
True. Pics? What pics?

Guess not - from the weigh in. I'll resend the email with the link.



go-bassn October 9th, 2004 03:28 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Still haven't gotten it Chris - whereare you sending it???

WW

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
True. Pics? What pics?

Guess not - from the weigh in. I'll resend the email with the link.





Christopher P. Cericola October 9th, 2004 08:30 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
donwar?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Still haven't gotten it Chris - whereare you sending it???

WW

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
True. Pics? What pics?

Guess not - from the weigh in. I'll resend the email with the link.







go-bassn October 9th, 2004 09:40 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Yep

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...
donwar?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Still haven't gotten it Chris - whereare you sending it???

WW

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in

message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
True. Pics? What pics?

Guess not - from the weigh in. I'll resend the email with the link.









Christopher P. Cericola October 9th, 2004 10:11 PM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
I've sent ANOTHER. Ify ou don't get this, email me, and I'll reply.
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Yep

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in message
groups.com...
donwar?

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Still haven't gotten it Chris - whereare you sending it???

WW

"Christopher P. Cericola" wrote in

message
groups.com...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
True. Pics? What pics?

Guess not - from the weigh in. I'll resend the email with the link.











Alwaysfishking October 10th, 2004 10:00 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Looked like 10 pounds :-0
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Lol 10 pounder? I said it was BIG lol.

We always fish there in the spring when the bass are "up". This could be

a
very tough early-fall tournament.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Good luck Harry.. hey Warren isn't that where you caught that 10 lber?
I'll
be fishing the shore for trout :-)...not!!!!!!!!!!


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:41:53 -0400, "Christopher P. Cericola"
wrote:


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little
to

do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

I see your point. But I think with this combined weight it will

really
show
that more and remove any competition on the rider side.

BTW - I haven't heard from Bill so I'm assuming there was no rider

seat
available for either the next two tournies?

Christopher


I believe you are paired up for Round Valley with Bill. I could be
wrong, but that's the way I remember it going down. I have to suffer
behind the human vacuum for that tournament and hope he leaves a dink
or two for me. I can see it now: 50 fish caught, 0 fish weighed...all
11 3/4 inches long. Warren 5 fish 21bs...If we don't sink, that is.
:-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.








Alwaysfishking October 10th, 2004 10:00 AM

Shared weight in 2005?
 
Looked like 10 pounds :-0
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Lol 10 pounder? I said it was BIG lol.

We always fish there in the spring when the bass are "up". This could be

a
very tough early-fall tournament.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions



"alwaysfishking" wrote in message
...
Good luck Harry.. hey Warren isn't that where you caught that 10 lber?
I'll
be fishing the shore for trout :-)...not!!!!!!!!!!


"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 14:41:53 -0400, "Christopher P. Cericola"
wrote:


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Let's just say that winning as an amateur in these things has little
to

do
with skill. It's all about getting the good rides.

I see your point. But I think with this combined weight it will

really
show
that more and remove any competition on the rider side.

BTW - I haven't heard from Bill so I'm assuming there was no rider

seat
available for either the next two tournies?

Christopher


I believe you are paired up for Round Valley with Bill. I could be
wrong, but that's the way I remember it going down. I have to suffer
behind the human vacuum for that tournament and hope he leaves a dink
or two for me. I can see it now: 50 fish caught, 0 fish weighed...all
11 3/4 inches long. Warren 5 fish 21bs...If we don't sink, that is.
:-)

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.









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