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Rodney October 24th, 2004 03:00 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

go-bassn October 25th, 2004 02:58 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup for
braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook droop
on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his hook
makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on olfactory
senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I know
some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme Donuts. He
claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not last night
Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers are the most
snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under the
Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things." You may
not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to tie a
hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch dropper. So your
drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a knack for
developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders No
Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot wiggle
a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very long
time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures (the
Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between the
weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and the
fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he would
have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative new,
where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even with it
basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this action, as it
"kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on the
surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com






Illinois Fisherman October 25th, 2004 03:53 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup for
braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook droop
on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his hook
makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on olfactory
senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I know
some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme Donuts. He
claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not last
night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers are the
most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under the
Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things." You may
not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to tie a
hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch dropper. So your
drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders No
Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com








Illinois Fisherman October 25th, 2004 03:53 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup for
braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook droop
on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his hook
makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on olfactory
senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I know
some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme Donuts. He
claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not last
night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers are the
most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under the
Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things." You may
not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to tie a
hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch dropper. So your
drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders No
Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com








Calif Bill October 25th, 2004 04:00 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
I just returned from a months vacation in Italy. Thought about you, Rodney.
Was in a fishing museum on Lake Tresimento on the Umbria , Tuscany border.
They had pictures of a close relative to the drop shot rig. Was a weight on
the bottom and a float to the surface on a line. Off this line was the main
line with a couple of hooks, so they could give action to the hooks and be
off the bottom. This rig was dated 100 B.C. Romans were even into dropshot
fishing. While there, I talked to a couple of guys who came in from bass
fishing, they do have large mouth bass in the lake to 3#. He had a tracker
bass boat, about 16-17 feet, and said it cost about 19,500 Euros. Present
value is $1.24 to 1 Euro. Expensive. Gave them a copy of Western Outdoor
News I had in the backpack. They said the fishing was tough as the lake
was down about 3' and stirred up.

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com




Rodney October 25th, 2004 04:33 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
go-bassn wrote:

rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup for
braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.


Gee Warren ,, you are so much smarter than Bill DAnce,, Hank Parker, Ray
Scott, AL Linder, the guys at B.A.S.S. headquarters and many many more
real "professional" fishermen and about 400 out door writers. The Guys
at North American Fishermen even shot a show on my stuff. I have just
fooled the hell out of these guys. Fooled them so well they all use my
stuff, and will stand behind them.

You Warren, just know everything, you don't have to see it to know it

Your really showing just how LOW of a person you really are, you don't
want anyone using my stuff because you fear they will whip your butt
with them,, Guess what, your butts already been whipped with them in
tournaments, and it's going to get much worst Warren my friend, as we
are going to be sponsoring many more pro's next year

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Now I'm the one ROTFLMAO

Your such a DORK, your cutting your nose off to spite your face





--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney October 25th, 2004 04:46 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
Calif Bill wrote:

I just returned from a months vacation in Italy. Thought about you, Rodney.
Was in a fishing museum on Lake Tresimento on the Umbria , Tuscany border.
They had pictures of a close relative to the drop shot rig. Was a weight on
the bottom and a float to the surface on a line. Off this line was the main
line with a couple of hooks, so they could give action to the hooks and be
off the bottom. This rig was dated 100 B.C.


Heck it was just because they couldn't tie a drop leader rig :-)

Thanks for the history lesson Bill

It's like the "new" circle hooks,, they were used 3 thousand years ago
by the Eskimos, they were just rediscovered :-)
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

go-bassn October 25th, 2004 04:48 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
I remember those long nights studying. Organic chemistry, physics,
microbiology...yuk! All of my bad dreams these days concern my thinking
that I've got a big test tomorrow, and It's been almost 20 years since I
took a test lol. Had that dream last night in fact.

I hope we get to wet a line together big-guy.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup
for braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook
droop on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his
hook makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on
olfactory senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I know
some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme Donuts. He
claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not last
night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers are the
most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under the
Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things." You may
not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to tie a
hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch dropper. So
your drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders No
Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use
a leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop
leaders with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or
a way to use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for
a very long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small
lures (the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line
between the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are
hung on leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com









go-bassn October 25th, 2004 04:51 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
Bill did you get a chance to wet a line over there? I know there are
die-hards in Italy.

I hear if you get skunked over there you "swim with the fishes" lol.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...
I just returned from a months vacation in Italy. Thought about you,
Rodney.
Was in a fishing museum on Lake Tresimento on the Umbria , Tuscany border.
They had pictures of a close relative to the drop shot rig. Was a weight
on
the bottom and a float to the surface on a line. Off this line was the
main
line with a couple of hooks, so they could give action to the hooks and be
off the bottom. This rig was dated 100 B.C. Romans were even into
dropshot
fishing. While there, I talked to a couple of guys who came in from bass
fishing, they do have large mouth bass in the lake to 3#. He had a
tracker
bass boat, about 16-17 feet, and said it cost about 19,500 Euros. Present
value is $1.24 to 1 Euro. Expensive. Gave them a copy of Western Outdoor
News I had in the backpack. They said the fishing was tough as the lake
was down about 3' and stirred up.

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com






Illinois Fisherman October 25th, 2004 07:17 PM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
The remark about yesterday was a Punny - I hope you took it that way,
Warren.
I would like to wet a line with you someday also.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I remember those long nights studying. Organic chemistry, physics,
microbiology...yuk! All of my bad dreams these days concern my thinking
that I've got a big test tomorrow, and It's been almost 20 years since I
took a test lol. Had that dream last night in fact.

I hope we get to wet a line together big-guy.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup
for braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook
droop on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his
hook makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on
olfactory senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I
know some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme Donuts.
He claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not
last night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers are
the most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under
the Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things." You
may not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to
tie a hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch dropper.
So your drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders
No Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use
a leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop
leaders with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom,
or a way to use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used
for a very long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with
small lures (the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the
line between the weight produces little action to the hooks when they
are hung on leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which
he would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com











Illinois Fisherman October 25th, 2004 07:17 PM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
The remark about yesterday was a Punny - I hope you took it that way,
Warren.
I would like to wet a line with you someday also.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I remember those long nights studying. Organic chemistry, physics,
microbiology...yuk! All of my bad dreams these days concern my thinking
that I've got a big test tomorrow, and It's been almost 20 years since I
took a test lol. Had that dream last night in fact.

I hope we get to wet a line together big-guy.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup
for braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook
droop on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his
hook makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on
olfactory senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I
know some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme Donuts.
He claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not
last night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers are
the most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under
the Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things." You
may not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to
tie a hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch dropper.
So your drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders
No Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use
a leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop
leaders with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom,
or a way to use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used
for a very long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with
small lures (the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the
line between the weight produces little action to the hooks when they
are hung on leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which
he would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com











Calif Bill October 25th, 2004 07:43 PM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
Nope. Only bass fishing I saw was this boat that I talked to when they came
in. Not a lot of big lakes, and that surprised me. Was on the Cinque Terre
for 9 days and was bad weather. Winds and rain 1/2 the time. Would like to
do some tuna in the Med sometime. In January / Feb I am going to South
America: Galapagos's and the Amazon. Supposed to fish the Amazon basin at
least 1 day.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Bill did you get a chance to wet a line over there? I know there are
die-hards in Italy.

I hear if you get skunked over there you "swim with the fishes" lol.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...
I just returned from a months vacation in Italy. Thought about you,
Rodney.
Was in a fishing museum on Lake Tresimento on the Umbria , Tuscany

border.
They had pictures of a close relative to the drop shot rig. Was a

weight
on
the bottom and a float to the surface on a line. Off this line was the
main
line with a couple of hooks, so they could give action to the hooks and

be
off the bottom. This rig was dated 100 B.C. Romans were even into
dropshot
fishing. While there, I talked to a couple of guys who came in from

bass
fishing, they do have large mouth bass in the lake to 3#. He had a
tracker
bass boat, about 16-17 feet, and said it cost about 19,500 Euros.

Present
value is $1.24 to 1 Euro. Expensive. Gave them a copy of Western

Outdoor
News I had in the backpack. They said the fishing was tough as the

lake
was down about 3' and stirred up.

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not use

a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way

to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com








go-bassn October 25th, 2004 07:47 PM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!

Warren

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
Nope. Only bass fishing I saw was this boat that I talked to when they

came
in. Not a lot of big lakes, and that surprised me. Was on the Cinque

Terre
for 9 days and was bad weather. Winds and rain 1/2 the time. Would like

to
do some tuna in the Med sometime. In January / Feb I am going to South
America: Galapagos's and the Amazon. Supposed to fish the Amazon basin at
least 1 day.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Bill did you get a chance to wet a line over there? I know there are
die-hards in Italy.

I hear if you get skunked over there you "swim with the fishes" lol.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...
I just returned from a months vacation in Italy. Thought about you,
Rodney.
Was in a fishing museum on Lake Tresimento on the Umbria , Tuscany

border.
They had pictures of a close relative to the drop shot rig. Was a

weight
on
the bottom and a float to the surface on a line. Off this line was

the
main
line with a couple of hooks, so they could give action to the hooks

and
be
off the bottom. This rig was dated 100 B.C. Romans were even into
dropshot
fishing. While there, I talked to a couple of guys who came in from

bass
fishing, they do have large mouth bass in the lake to 3#. He had a
tracker
bass boat, about 16-17 feet, and said it cost about 19,500 Euros.

Present
value is $1.24 to 1 Euro. Expensive. Gave them a copy of Western

Outdoor
News I had in the backpack. They said the fishing was tough as the

lake
was down about 3' and stirred up.

"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not

use
a
leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop

leaders
with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom, or a way

to
use more than one hook fishing, this method has been used for a very
long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes with small

lures
(the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the line between
the weight produces little action to the hooks when they are hung on
leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below

has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait, and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which

he
would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure, even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,, if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively, they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com









go-bassn October 25th, 2004 07:48 PM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
I'm right there with ya big-guy, no worries! Comin to TN?

Warren

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...
The remark about yesterday was a Punny - I hope you took it that way,
Warren.
I would like to wet a line with you someday also.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I remember those long nights studying. Organic chemistry, physics,
microbiology...yuk! All of my bad dreams these days concern my thinking
that I've got a big test tomorrow, and It's been almost 20 years since I
took a test lol. Had that dream last night in fact.

I hope we get to wet a line together big-guy.

--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
om...

Warren,

I was just born yesterday - but I stayed up all night studying.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
rotflmfao! Where have I heard that before? Maybe there's a newsgroup
for braindead fisherman who actually fall for Rodney's spew.

I love the way he claims those hooks make the bait "kick out" when you
tighten the line. Like that tiny soft plastic's gonna make the hook
droop on a slack line anyway, lol. And how he claims the hook

prevents
gut-hooking - sure, if you're using piano wire for line! And how his
hook makes the fish smell the bait better, Rod's a real expert on
olfactory senses lol.

He also claims his sinker can go through riprap without snagging. I
know some riprap that'll eat his sinkers like I eat Boston Creme

Donuts.
He claims it hops from rock to rock. We were born at night, but not
last night Rod! The Lindners' weights with the piano wire trailers

are
the most snagproof sinkers ever made.

As for a tool to help you tye a knot? I won't even go there.

Snake Oil Salesman extraodinaire Rodney, just killfile the numbskull.
--
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Illinois Fisherman" wrote in message
. com...
I think most of us recognize the fact that there is nothing new under
the Sun. Just small modifications to "already been invented things."

You
may not have noticed that the State of Michigan does not allow you to
tie a hook directly to the main line, you have to have a 3 inch

dropper.
So your drop shot hook will not "play in Peoria."

You remind me of the proverbial "Snake Oil Salesman." You have a

knack
for developing things that fisherman don't need.

EZKnot - for people that cannot tie there shoes.

Stand out Hooks - For people that have not learned the Polomer Knot.

Rock Hopper - A take off of the old "welding rod" weight. The Linders
No Hang weight is much better, in my opinion.

Long Shot, Wiggle, Boomerang - This is mainly for people who cannot
wiggle a rod tip.

Rig Saver - If your fishing in current your not catching fish. From
everything I have read, fish do not like strong current. But I get

your
point. You need a bigger weight.

These are just my observations on the subject. You do have an

inventive
mind. So did P.T. Barnum.



"Rodney" . wrote in message
...
Using A drop leader, is not drop shotting,, drop shotting does not

use
a leader from the main line to the hook,, dropper rigs with drop
leaders with the weight below them, is a way to fish off the bottom,
or a way to use more than one hook fishing, this method has been

used
for a very long time,, usually with natural baits, but sometimes

with
small lures (the Sabinky rig) bouncing the weight, or tightening the
line between the weight produces little action to the hooks when

they
are hung on leaders.

Although tying a hook straight to the main line and a weight below

has
also been down in the past, is was always used with natural bait,

and
the fisherman just did not know how to make a drop leader rig, which
he would have rather used, if he knew how.

The technique of actually drop shotting, like done today is relative
new, where the fisherman tries to add a little action to a lure,

even
with it basically stationary. (note) the StandOut hook adds to this
action, as it "kicks" the lure when the line draws taught against

the
weight.

The Mojo SpecTastic Rig takes drop shotting to an entirely new

level,
where total lure action is controlled even in 6 inches of water or

on
the surface

The only reason I posted this is to let some know the difference,,

if
they have never drop shotted before,

You don't need either of my inventions to drop shot effectively,

they
just make it better
--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com













Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers October 25th, 2004 10:44 PM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!


Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some day.
Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes in the
upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I gotta get
at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers October 25th, 2004 10:44 PM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!


Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some day.
Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes in the
upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I gotta get
at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



go-bassn October 26th, 2004 01:57 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!


Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com




Steve & Chris Clark October 26th, 2004 03:09 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
Yoo's guys can have them over-dentured snakes, I'm looking forward to the
Peacocks, saving my woodchoppers for a trip down there too, one day! ;-) I
have flown over and around Angels falls but not wet a line! Road in a thirty
foot dug out canoe up the Ornoko and it was just killing me. It was the
hardest day of my life, so close yet so far!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!


Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes

in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





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Steve & Chris Clark October 26th, 2004 03:09 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 
Yoo's guys can have them over-dentured snakes, I'm looking forward to the
Peacocks, saving my woodchoppers for a trip down there too, one day! ;-) I
have flown over and around Angels falls but not wet a line! Road in a thirty
foot dug out canoe up the Ornoko and it was just killing me. It was the
hardest day of my life, so close yet so far!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish" lol.

Don't lip him!


Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's holes

in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





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Calif Bill October 26th, 2004 07:40 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
Yoo's guys can have them over-dentured snakes, I'm looking forward to the
Peacocks, saving my woodchoppers for a trip down there too, one day! ;-)

I
have flown over and around Angels falls but not wet a line! Road in a

thirty
foot dug out canoe up the Ornoko and it was just killing me. It was the
hardest day of my life, so close yet so far!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your

muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish"

lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in

South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's

holes
in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com





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They quote fishing for pirana. PRefer the peacocks.
Bill



Calif Bill October 26th, 2004 07:40 AM

A drop leader is not a drop shot
 

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
Yoo's guys can have them over-dentured snakes, I'm looking forward to the
Peacocks, saving my woodchoppers for a trip down there too, one day! ;-)

I
have flown over and around Angels falls but not wet a line! Road in a

thirty
foot dug out canoe up the Ornoko and it was just killing me. It was the
hardest day of my life, so close yet so far!
--
Steve

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
You're right Steve, my bad. I think those Payaras would use your

muskies
for toothpics if they shared the same waters lol.

-
Warren

http://www.warrenwolk.com
Http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in
message ...

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Sounds fun Bill, take some pics. Catch one of those "tiger fish"

lol.

Don't lip him!

Tigerfish I believe are in Africa, it's the Payara that resides in

South
America and THAT is one toothy critter that I WILL do battle with some
day. Imagine, a fish with lower canine teeth so long that there's

holes
in
the upper jaw for them to slide into! Man, now them's some teeth! I
gotta get at least one.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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They quote fishing for pirana. PRefer the peacocks.
Bill




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