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This is a fishing story written to a friend that I took to where
I thought would be a great spot last summer. It wasn t... but
yesterday it was pretty good You should have been here yesterday
etc....

HI Bob
This is psuedo time, somewhat similar to tricos but more
difficult due to the weather. Usually we have calm mornings to fish
the trikes but psuedo s come off between 1 &2 and so does the
wind. They are definetly a size 22 and the fish get pretty keyed in
and it s hard to catch them. Also they re less likely to go for a
cluster as you re fishing the duns rather than the spinners.. I
had good success with them this week fishing all over the river.
Yesterday was going to be an iffy day but I decided to try anyway.
The winds from Great falls which is probably the most accurate
weather, were calling 15-25, Helena 5-10. When I left around 12
the winds at wolfe creek were 3 and here not at all. It was cloudy
and overcast so I figured what the hell. There was no wind until I hit
wolfe creek and then I could see the trees blowing. ****!!! I got the
the WC bridge and while the water didnt have actual white caps
there was a definite chop and way to much for fish to come up for
psudos. I almost turned around...

But after sitting for awhile I remembered the spot I took you to the
nite we didn t do ****. It was a bend down river with cliffs at our
back and an island in front. I figured that was probably the most
protected spot on the river. I headed to the Dearborn Inn and parked
there and went in from the South rather than the North as we did.
FIgured it was an easier walk and no barbed wire fences to cross. The
flow is now 4000 and I was also hoping there might be fish in that back
channel which was very low when we were there. I crossed over to the
island and did a tour a round it. Still was a little low for fish to
be in that channel. Bu the time I got around to where I started the
bugs were like tiny sailboats coming down the water an there were
fish rising at the end of the island in the slack water. I fished to
them and while they were n t real big , at least it was fishing,
mostly 12-14. I kept my eye on that back channel hoping for some
there. I started noticing fish to the left of me where the channel
dumped out along the bank. Not as many as to the right but bigger
fish. I caught a couple in the 17 " range that looked like they had
just spawned very skinny docile fish. But what the hell !

So I fished to the right and left for a couple hours. I climbed
back on the tracks and walked down to the bridge where we got in.
There were lots of back eddys along the rocks in deeper water but
no fish along that stretch. O well....

I walked back to the Dearborn and then up river about 1/4 mile
Mostly saw some small intermittent fish and here the wind was blowing
pretty good. I t was pretty decent by the island. Protected enough I
could smoke my pipe. It was about 4 by now and I headed back to Craig.
The wind if anything was blowing harder there. I went to the cliffs
and the bridge of death but only some fish rising in the middle of the
river. I started to back up river and from the car spotted a pod up
river from the Bridge of Death where the river makes a bend working
in a large back eddy. This is where the cliff is the highest. but I
slid down it and had some fishing. I immediately hooked a very large
trout must have been close to 20 " and heavy. He took off , dispersing
the pod aftyer a mighty jump and ran thru a weed bed dislodging the
fly.All I got back was a clump of weeds....

I headed up river and came upon some small pods but with the wind in
my face and bad light on the water it was almost impossible to fish
them. After a few hundred yards I headed back to the orginal pod.
Which by this time had grown larger and more frenzied! There must
have been 75 fish in front of me and they could care less that I was
there as some got almost close enough to kick. The light was still
bad and they were really keyed on something that either I didn t
have or couldn t see. They were in the slop ,of dead or dying
pusedos , some weeds and general scum. I fished for about an hour
and a half. Everynow and then hooking one but not being able to hold
for more than a few seconds as the strikes were late as I could nt
see my fly also so many fish were rising it was impossible to time
it . The pod could have cared less. I went thru every fly in a box
Mike just tied up and as it got dark put on a size 16 baetis . I
had used this before with no luck, but it was the only thing I had
even a chance to see. After about 10 casts and no takers I was ready
to give up. It was getting a might chilly and dark. On the last cast
as I was pulling up I finally hooked one! As he splashed around in the
water , tail up, I realized I must have hooked him in the ass. This
cracked me up, 90 mins of fishing and the only one I was going to land
was foul hooked. I got him in quickly and lo and behold he was fair
hooked and I had a spunky 16 " bow. OF course I couldn t quite
leave yet. I ran down and looked uner the Bridge of Death, nothing
there, down one of the side channel in near dark it was truly
over...

MT

Mark Tinsky wrote:
the Bridge of Death, nothing
there, down one of the side channel in near dark it was truly
over...

Sounds like a good day.

We have the same hatch going on around here but my home river
is almost at runoff levels when it should be low and clear. Those
little bugs don't bring up many fish in the heavy water.

Willi

Mark Tinsky wrote:
We have the same hatch going on around here but my home river
is almost at runoff levels when it should be low and clear. Those
little bugs don't bring up many fish in the heavy water.

Willi

Water s almost got to be like glass before they ll bother.Check any
big back eddys were the little corpses can accumulate. You may
find fish rising there. Hope you can make it to the Helena one of
these days. MT

Maybe we could do a split Clave next year and swing up to the Helena
area for a few days? How long of a drive would that be?

Willi

We have the same hatch going on around here but my home river
is almost at runoff levels when it should be low and clear. Those
little bugs don't bring up many fish in the heavy water.

Willi

Water s almost got to be like glass before they ll bother.Check any
big back eddys were the little corpses can accumulate. You may
find fish rising there. Hope you can make it to the Helena one of
these days. MT

s. MT

Maybe we could do a split Clave next year and swing up to the Helena
area for a few days? How long of a drive would that be?

Wolfe Creek/ Craig where the fishing would be is aabout 3 hours
from where we stayed at the Madison. Tho chances are you w ouldnt want
to go home.... :) or ever back to the Madison !
Sorry Warren couldn t resist MT

"Mark Tinsky" wrote

Wolfe Creek/ Craig where the fishing would be is aabout 3 hours
from where we stayed at the Madison.

Warning: that is a Montana resident driving velocity guesstimation .... if
you drive halfway sane, plan on 4 hours G

Tho chances are you wouldnt want
to go home.... :) or ever back to the Madison !

The Missouri is most certainly a "must do" fishing destination .... I've
only been there one trip, but plan to go back again this summer for a
couple, three, weeks LOTS of rising fish, biggest pods anywhere I've
ever been, LOTS of big fish if you learn how and where to look, but, LOTS of
people at peak times, LOTS of drift boats, and it ain't exactly pristine
wilderness ... the freeway is the view. Also, I was interested in Mark's
mentioning "lighting" in his TR ... my strongest memory of fishing there is
eyestrain ... there is something about the Prairie lighting that makes even
smooth water look choppy, and those little Tricos impossible to see ...

MY rating of the Mighty Mo as a fishing destination? ( not that anyone gives
a ****?) ... Well, I can easily live the rest of my life and never fish the
Madison below Quake again ... but, I'd feel deprived if I felt I'd never
make it back to the Missouri. near Craig

"Larry L" wrote in message
...

The Missouri is most certainly a "must do" fishing destination .... I've
only been there one trip, but plan to go back again this summer for a
couple, three, weeks LOTS of rising fish, biggest pods anywhere I've
ever been, LOTS of big fish if you learn how and where to look, but, LOTS
of
people at peak times, LOTS of drift boats, and it ain't exactly pristine
wilderness ... the freeway is the view. Also, I was interested in
Mark's
mentioning "lighting" in his TR ... my strongest memory of fishing there
is
eyestrain ... there is something about the Prairie lighting that makes
even
smooth water look choppy, and those little Tricos impossible to see ...

I think he left out the part about the wind too. Some of my most vivid
memories of the mighty Mo have to do with **&!1$%%# wind.

jh

"Mark Tinsky" wrote

! A lot of
people hearing stories expect to catch lots of big fish quickly, but
that isn t so.

hehe, I caught a nice 18" or so fish on my first cast there !!!G !!!

.... and my second fish about a day of hard fishing later G it ain't
"easy pickin's" water

Your assesment is quite accurate. It takes some time to learn the
river, as the trout area is almost 30 miles long Fish are stronger in
different parts of the river at different times, same with the hatch
and of course it varies year to year. A good knowledge of access (
which there is a lot of) and trails is extremely helpful! A lot of
people hearing stories expect to catch lots of big fish quickly, but
that isn t so. Wind plays a very big factor as do the flows. The
present drought and over abundant pelicans, whirling disease, have
certainly hurt the fishery. The light is also very tough for some
reason, worse than on many other rivers I ve fished, especially
wading. Late June is a good time to be there. Caddis are out and if
it s been warm and low PMDs also.ANyone who want s to come out give
me a holler, I ll show you some spots MT

Mark Tinsky wrote:
s. MT

Maybe we could do a split Clave next year and swing up to the Helena
area for a few days? How long of a drive would that be?

Wolfe Creek/ Craig where the fishing would be is aabout 3 hours
from where we stayed at the Madison. Tho chances are you w ouldnt want
to go home.... :) or ever back to the Madison !
Sorry Warren couldn t resist MT

I'd be interested in a two day trip up there during the Clave. Is there
camping in the area?

Willi

In article , Willi & Sue
wrote:

Mark Tinsky wrote:
s. MT

Maybe we could do a split Clave next year and swing up to the Helena
area for a few days? How long of a drive would that be?

Wolfe Creek/ Craig where the fishing would be is aabout 3 hours
from where we stayed at the Madison. Tho chances are you w ouldnt
want
to go home.... :) or ever back to the Madison !
Sorry Warren couldn t resist MT

I'd be interested in a two day trip up there during the Clave. Is there
camping in the area?

Willi

Yes plenty tho hardly as nice as the spots on t he madison. They re
all near the frontage road which has some traffic and road noise. But
they are all right on the river which is nice MT

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:39:17 -0600, Willi & Sue wrote:

I'd be interested in a two day trip up there during the Clave. Is there
camping in the area?

What about the week after the clave? I'm thinking about heading up toward
Glacier then.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

In article , Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:39:17 -0600, Willi & Sue wrote:

I'd be interested in a two day trip up there during the Clave. Is there
camping in the area?

What about the week after the clave? I'm thinking about heading up toward
Glacier then.

HI Charlie
DOnt mean to be flippant about Glacier... put I hope you re only
going up for the site seeing.. There s a good reason they dont charge
for a liscence there, sheer embarrasment. MT

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:36:33 -0700, Mark Tinsky wrote:

HI Charlie
DOnt mean to be flippant about Glacier... put I hope you re only
going up for the site seeing.. There s a good reason they dont charge
for a liscence there, sheer embarrasment. MT

Mark,

I am only going up for sightseeing and to take some pictures, but I'd like to
find some spots to fish between there and the Madison. I figured I'd stop by
Rock Creek, for sure.
--
Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:55:41 -0700, Mark Tinsky wrote:

Sounds good ! Lets do it MT

Cool.
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Charlie...
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/c/cchoc/

In article , Charlie Choc
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:36:33 -0700, Mark Tinsky wrote:

HI Charlie
DOnt mean to be flippant about Glacier... put I hope you re only
going up for the site seeing.. There s a good reason they dont charge
for a liscence there, sheer embarrasment. MT

Mark,

I am only going up for sightseeing and to take some pictures, but I'd
like to
find some spots to fish between there and the Madison. I figured I'd stop
by
Rock Creek, for sure.

Sounds good ! Lets do it MT