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go-bassn January 4th, 2004 12:28 AM

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I just jumped back into the Iaconelli thread & since it's kinda buried from
before Christmas I thought I'd add my 2 cents here...

I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just because
he expresses himself differently than you would. This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream. I admire
what he's done, and without actually knowing him personally I feel I'm in no
position to judge him characterwise. I think you guys should reconsider
your opinions...

Warren



Craig January 4th, 2004 12:46 AM

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Mike's cool in my book. I love his high energy attitude and personality.

--
Craig Baugher




J Buck January 4th, 2004 01:01 AM

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I didn't see the footage, so I should probably keep my mouth shut. But
(lol) much like going out on the town on New Years Eve, you can do it
(celebrate) in such a manner that doesn't make you look like a jackass.
Unless, of course, you don't care what people think of you


Craig January 4th, 2004 05:25 AM

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Let me ask you, do you really care what others think of you?

I think Mike, like all of us, has an ego that helps him strive to be the
best. But I also believe that the past few years on the tour has toughen
and tested him. I believe Mike emotions were a combination of his shear
joy, and a bit of "in your face" for those who doubted him or played with
him over the past few years (mental games of psyche).

Mike has made it over one of the biggest hurtles in his life. Watch for him
to mellow a little. Oh, he will still get pumped up when he wins, but you
will notice more joy and less anger (like when he won his first B.A.S.S.
tournament). Do you remember his smiles and his joy? I believe that is the
Mike you will see next year.

--
Craig Baugher




Marty January 4th, 2004 06:11 AM

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go-bassn wrote in message
...
I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just

because
he expresses himself differently than you would. This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream. I

admire
what he's done, and without actually knowing him personally I feel I'm in

no
position to judge him characterwise. I think you guys should reconsider
your opinions...


Why reconsider? My opinion is that his outburst was unprofessional and over
the top. It has nothing to do with personal dislike or diminishing his
accomplishments or failing to recognize that he was in the federation a few
years ago. I don't have to know him to have an opinion on how he acts on TV.



RichZ January 4th, 2004 01:27 PM

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Go-bassn wrote:
I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just because
he expresses himself differently than you would.


IMHO, he's not a good enough actor to make the phony level of exuberance he
displayed pass for anything resembling reality. I don't have as much problem
with his on-stage antics as with the way he hammed it up for the camera when
he caught his last fish. At that point, he did not know that he had won, just
that he had put himself in good position to do so. There wasn't an ounce of
real emotion in his display, and it was the equivalent of an NFL receiver
doing the most over the top endzone dance in history -- after catching the
ball for a first down on the 20 yard line.

Of course it wasn't JUST Mike. There was a lot of excess celebration every
time one of them caught a fish. I've ridden in the boat with many of these
guys in the Classic for a lot of years. NONE has put on an ahole celebration
every time they caught a fish. In fact, none has gone as nuts onstage after
winning, as Mike did every time he caught a fish. I blame ESPN. I think the
contenders have been coached by ESPN to show as much excitement as possible,
to make "good TV", and ensure themselves on camera facetime. That they didn't
act that way when there was only one outdoor writer in the boat with them,
and the over-the-top celebrations started with the inclusion of the ESPN
cameras in their boats suggests that the behavior is more linked to ESPN than
to their real emotions. And from what I can tell, Mike went farther overboard
with it than anyone else.


This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream.


Not sure how that's an excuse, much less a reason. If it was, then Bryan
Kerchal should have been Mike to the power of 10, since he was still a
Federation guy when he won the Classic.

I applaud Mike's fishing skills. He is obviously right up there with the best
of them. But I find his act embarrassing for the sport.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


AJH January 4th, 2004 01:34 PM

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ESPN. they consider spelling bee's and dominos a sport..and now Deion is
a fisherman..I look for Al to have his own show soong





I fish therefore I lie


Richard g January 4th, 2004 02:26 PM

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:34:34 -0500 (EST), (AJH)
wrote:

ESPN. they consider spelling bee's and dominos a sport..and now Deion is
a fisherman..I look for Al to have his own show soong

I caught Deion's show yesterday for the first time. It was
interesting to me that he confessed to putting on a show as a football
player, a deliberate act to gain attention to himself. And he said he
was tired of acting and he was unfulfilled in his life despite fame
and fortune. I thought that was pretty gutsy for him to say on TV.
He had a lot to say about how much he loved fishing. I almost like
the guy now. (not that what I think matters to him)
Richard g
www.bassstalkers.com

RichZ January 4th, 2004 04:04 PM

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So, I just watched Charlie Moore's new show (Beat Charlie Moore) on ESPN2.
What a waste of TV bandwidth that is!

Charlie had been doing the whole over-excited act forever. I'm sure that he
fits right in with ESPN's vision of outdoors programming. But even he seems
a step down from Mike on the feigned enthusiam scale.

For what it's worth, Ted Ancher, who appeared with Charlie on today's show,
is a classy guy -- and usually a very quiet and serious dude -- who's got
to be embarrased by this show.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


ñKs January 4th, 2004 04:39 PM

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I totally agree, I would have wet myself right there in front of everyone,
people have different ways of reacting, a dream coming true can make anyone
seem over reactive.

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
I just jumped back into the Iaconelli thread & since it's kinda buried

from
before Christmas I thought I'd add my 2 cents here...

I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just

because
he expresses himself differently than you would. This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream. I

admire
what he's done, and without actually knowing him personally I feel I'm in

no
position to judge him characterwise. I think you guys should reconsider
your opinions...

Warren





Rich Pierro January 5th, 2004 03:48 AM

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I wouldn't judge him personally, but break dancing as poorly as he did
on national TV is embarrassing. And I don't even have a problem with the
screaming reactions after landing a fish, just the awful dancing. I never
thought break dancing was cool, but now it's officially un-cool. Stick to
fishing white boy.


Rich P




Henry Hefner January 5th, 2004 04:07 AM

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I haven't seen the footage so I'm just going on what I've read here, but
I'm wondering. If I was told I had to look more excited for the cameras,
and after complaining I had someone leaning on me about it, I'm the kind
of guy that might do something like that on purpose. Looking back at it
they couldn't say I didn't do what they told me to, but they would think
twice about telling such a 'bad actor' to do that again.

Henry

"I installed a skylight in my apartment... The people who live above me
are furious!" - Stephen Wright



Rich Pierro wrote:

I wouldn't judge him personally, but break dancing as poorly as he did
on national TV is embarrassing. And I don't even have a problem with the
screaming reactions after landing a fish, just the awful dancing. I never
thought break dancing was cool, but now it's officially un-cool. Stick to
fishing white boy.


Rich P





Gone Angling January 5th, 2004 05:57 AM

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Rich, if you watch the scene again you'll hear Mike say "This is the winning
fish!" as he's bringing it to the boat. I believe he knew that 3 3/4 pound
bass put him over the top. Only seconds before encountering the bass he was
saying how he fished hard but didn't think he had enough weight on his limit
to win. He then missed the fish initially with one lure, instinctively
reacted by cranking in the first bait, picked up a second rod with another
bait on it & followed up the first encounter perfectly, instantly getting
bit on the follow-up lure. He then got the bass out of the weeds & into the
boat like a seasoned veteran. He freaked out the instant he got the
lip-lock on the bass, sure enough. Yea, I had to turn down my volume, but I
thought the whole scene above was awesome.

Mike screamed things like "Never give up!" & "Bass fishing is great!", but I
never heard a single "I'm the greatest!" or "Take that Gary Klein!".

Mike is brash, confident & a little different than most. I'd be the first
the criticize him if I ever saw him intentionally bring down our sport.
But, frankly, I haven't ever seen him do that.

And I've been beaten by him many times.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Go-bassn wrote:
I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just

because
he expresses himself differently than you would.


IMHO, he's not a good enough actor to make the phony level of exuberance

he
displayed pass for anything resembling reality. I don't have as much

problem
with his on-stage antics as with the way he hammed it up for the camera

when
he caught his last fish. At that point, he did not know that he had won,

just
that he had put himself in good position to do so. There wasn't an ounce

of
real emotion in his display, and it was the equivalent of an NFL receiver
doing the most over the top endzone dance in history -- after catching the
ball for a first down on the 20 yard line.

Of course it wasn't JUST Mike. There was a lot of excess celebration every
time one of them caught a fish. I've ridden in the boat with many of these
guys in the Classic for a lot of years. NONE has put on an ahole

celebration
every time they caught a fish. In fact, none has gone as nuts onstage

after
winning, as Mike did every time he caught a fish. I blame ESPN. I think

the
contenders have been coached by ESPN to show as much excitement as

possible,
to make "good TV", and ensure themselves on camera facetime. That they

didn't
act that way when there was only one outdoor writer in the boat with them,
and the over-the-top celebrations started with the inclusion of the ESPN
cameras in their boats suggests that the behavior is more linked to ESPN

than
to their real emotions. And from what I can tell, Mike went farther

overboard
with it than anyone else.


This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream.


Not sure how that's an excuse, much less a reason. If it was, then Bryan
Kerchal should have been Mike to the power of 10, since he was still a
Federation guy when he won the Classic.

I applaud Mike's fishing skills. He is obviously right up there with the

best
of them. But I find his act embarrassing for the sport.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing




go-bassn January 5th, 2004 06:08 AM

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Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot & found out there's no aol account , so I figured he somehow faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account properties & changed my name to his to see if it would work.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Gone Angling" wrote in message ...
Rich, if you watch the scene again you'll hear Mike say "This is the winning
fish!" as he's bringing it to the boat. I believe he knew that 3 3/4 pound
bass put him over the top. Only seconds before encountering the bass he was
saying how he fished hard but didn't think he had enough weight on his limit
to win. He then missed the fish initially with one lure, instinctively
reacted by cranking in the first bait, picked up a second rod with another
bait on it & followed up the first encounter perfectly, instantly getting
bit on the follow-up lure. He then got the bass out of the weeds & into the
boat like a seasoned veteran. He freaked out the instant he got the
lip-lock on the bass, sure enough. Yea, I had to turn down my volume, but I
thought the whole scene above was awesome.

Mike screamed things like "Never give up!" & "Bass fishing is great!", but I
never heard a single "I'm the greatest!" or "Take that Gary Klein!".

Mike is brash, confident & a little different than most. I'd be the first
the criticize him if I ever saw him intentionally bring down our sport.
But, frankly, I haven't ever seen him do that.

And I've been beaten by him many times.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Go-bassn wrote:
I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just

because
he expresses himself differently than you would.


IMHO, he's not a good enough actor to make the phony level of exuberance

he
displayed pass for anything resembling reality. I don't have as much

problem
with his on-stage antics as with the way he hammed it up for the camera

when
he caught his last fish. At that point, he did not know that he had won,

just
that he had put himself in good position to do so. There wasn't an ounce

of
real emotion in his display, and it was the equivalent of an NFL receiver
doing the most over the top endzone dance in history -- after catching the
ball for a first down on the 20 yard line.

Of course it wasn't JUST Mike. There was a lot of excess celebration every
time one of them caught a fish. I've ridden in the boat with many of these
guys in the Classic for a lot of years. NONE has put on an ahole

celebration
every time they caught a fish. In fact, none has gone as nuts onstage

after
winning, as Mike did every time he caught a fish. I blame ESPN. I think

the
contenders have been coached by ESPN to show as much excitement as

possible,
to make "good TV", and ensure themselves on camera facetime. That they

didn't
act that way when there was only one outdoor writer in the boat with them,
and the over-the-top celebrations started with the inclusion of the ESPN
cameras in their boats suggests that the behavior is more linked to ESPN

than
to their real emotions. And from what I can tell, Mike went farther

overboard
with it than anyone else.


This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream.


Not sure how that's an excuse, much less a reason. If it was, then Bryan
Kerchal should have been Mike to the power of 10, since he was still a
Federation guy when he won the Classic.

I applaud Mike's fishing skills. He is obviously right up there with the

best
of them. But I find his act embarrassing for the sport.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing





go-bassn January 5th, 2004 06:14 AM

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Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot & found
out there's no aol account (surprise), so I figured he
somehow faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account
properties & changed my name to his to see if it would work. It did.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Gone Angling" wrote in message
...
Rich, if you watch the scene again you'll hear Mike say "This is the

winning
fish!" as he's bringing it to the boat. I believe he knew that 3 3/4

pound
bass put him over the top. Only seconds before encountering the bass he

was
saying how he fished hard but didn't think he had enough weight on his

limit
to win. He then missed the fish initially with one lure, instinctively
reacted by cranking in the first bait, picked up a second rod with another
bait on it & followed up the first encounter perfectly, instantly getting
bit on the follow-up lure. He then got the bass out of the weeds & into

the
boat like a seasoned veteran. He freaked out the instant he got the
lip-lock on the bass, sure enough. Yea, I had to turn down my volume, but

I
thought the whole scene above was awesome.

Mike screamed things like "Never give up!" & "Bass fishing is great!", but

I
never heard a single "I'm the greatest!" or "Take that Gary Klein!".

Mike is brash, confident & a little different than most. I'd be the first
the criticize him if I ever saw him intentionally bring down our sport.
But, frankly, I haven't ever seen him do that.

And I've been beaten by him many times.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Go-bassn wrote:
I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just

because
he expresses himself differently than you would.


IMHO, he's not a good enough actor to make the phony level of exuberance

he
displayed pass for anything resembling reality. I don't have as much

problem
with his on-stage antics as with the way he hammed it up for the camera

when
he caught his last fish. At that point, he did not know that he had won,

just
that he had put himself in good position to do so. There wasn't an ounce

of
real emotion in his display, and it was the equivalent of an NFL

receiver
doing the most over the top endzone dance in history -- after catching

the
ball for a first down on the 20 yard line.

Of course it wasn't JUST Mike. There was a lot of excess celebration

every
time one of them caught a fish. I've ridden in the boat with many of

these
guys in the Classic for a lot of years. NONE has put on an ahole

celebration
every time they caught a fish. In fact, none has gone as nuts onstage

after
winning, as Mike did every time he caught a fish. I blame ESPN. I think

the
contenders have been coached by ESPN to show as much excitement as

possible,
to make "good TV", and ensure themselves on camera facetime. That they

didn't
act that way when there was only one outdoor writer in the boat with

them,
and the over-the-top celebrations started with the inclusion of the ESPN
cameras in their boats suggests that the behavior is more linked to ESPN

than
to their real emotions. And from what I can tell, Mike went farther

overboard
with it than anyone else.


This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream.


Not sure how that's an excuse, much less a reason. If it was, then Bryan
Kerchal should have been Mike to the power of 10, since he was still a
Federation guy when he won the Classic.

I applaud Mike's fishing skills. He is obviously right up there with the

best
of them. But I find his act embarrassing for the sport.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing






AJH January 5th, 2004 10:50 AM

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Well, we now know who Al really is, sure had me fooled...





I fish therefore I lie


Andrew Kidd January 5th, 2004 11:08 AM

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Boy that was a dumb thing to do! :-) The fake didn't work though, since
his message headers do say that his messages are coming from news.aol.com.
Your message had comcast.net in the header...

I have a funny feeling this thread is going to get a lot longer! :-)
--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot & found
out there's no aol account , so I figured he somehow
faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account properties &
changed my name to his to see if it would work.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"Gone Angling" wrote in message
...
Rich, if you watch the scene again you'll hear Mike say "This is the

winning
fish!" as he's bringing it to the boat. I believe he knew that 3 3/4

pound
bass put him over the top. Only seconds before encountering the bass he

was
saying how he fished hard but didn't think he had enough weight on his

limit
to win. He then missed the fish initially with one lure, instinctively
reacted by cranking in the first bait, picked up a second rod with another
bait on it & followed up the first encounter perfectly, instantly getting
bit on the follow-up lure. He then got the bass out of the weeds & into

the
boat like a seasoned veteran. He freaked out the instant he got the
lip-lock on the bass, sure enough. Yea, I had to turn down my volume, but

I
thought the whole scene above was awesome.

Mike screamed things like "Never give up!" & "Bass fishing is great!", but

I
never heard a single "I'm the greatest!" or "Take that Gary Klein!".

Mike is brash, confident & a little different than most. I'd be the first
the criticize him if I ever saw him intentionally bring down our sport.
But, frankly, I haven't ever seen him do that.

And I've been beaten by him many times.

Warren
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com http://www.secretweaponlures.com
http://www.warrenwolk.com/ http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com/

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
Go-bassn wrote:
I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just

because
he expresses himself differently than you would.


IMHO, he's not a good enough actor to make the phony level of exuberance

he
displayed pass for anything resembling reality. I don't have as much

problem
with his on-stage antics as with the way he hammed it up for the camera

when
he caught his last fish. At that point, he did not know that he had won,

just
that he had put himself in good position to do so. There wasn't an ounce

of
real emotion in his display, and it was the equivalent of an NFL

receiver
doing the most over the top endzone dance in history -- after catching

the
ball for a first down on the 20 yard line.

Of course it wasn't JUST Mike. There was a lot of excess celebration

every
time one of them caught a fish. I've ridden in the boat with many of

these
guys in the Classic for a lot of years. NONE has put on an ahole

celebration
every time they caught a fish. In fact, none has gone as nuts onstage

after
winning, as Mike did every time he caught a fish. I blame ESPN. I think

the
contenders have been coached by ESPN to show as much excitement as

possible,
to make "good TV", and ensure themselves on camera facetime. That they

didn't
act that way when there was only one outdoor writer in the boat with

them,
and the over-the-top celebrations started with the inclusion of the ESPN
cameras in their boats suggests that the behavior is more linked to ESPN

than
to their real emotions. And from what I can tell, Mike went farther

overboard
with it than anyone else.


This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream.


Not sure how that's an excuse, much less a reason. If it was, then Bryan
Kerchal should have been Mike to the power of 10, since he was still a
Federation guy when he won the Classic.

I applaud Mike's fishing skills. He is obviously right up there with the

best
of them. But I find his act embarrassing for the sport.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing






RichZ January 5th, 2004 12:37 PM

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I'm reading this wondering what's going on. It says Goneangling at the top,
but there are complete sent4ences that make sense and read as if they were
written by someone with a functional brain. Holy Cow, there's even
punctuation! Good thing I read the reply under your own name before I
started my own reply.

Regardless of him saying "this is the winning fish", he had absolutely no
way of knowing that it was. I heard other competitors say similar things
without laying on the floor and rolling around screaming or otherwise
making complete Aholes of themselves. If it wasn't for a bit of misfortune
befalling Klien and Allen, it very well could have been a non-winning fish.
So I still contend that fish only told him that he was in a good position
to win.

I don't really know how anyone could watch his reaction and sense that it
was a performance, not an actual emotional reaction.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


RichZ January 5th, 2004 12:42 PM

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I don't really know how anyone could watch his reaction and sense that it
was a performance, not an actual emotional reaction.



Should have read:

I don't really know how anyone could watch his reaction and NOT sense that
it was a performance, rather than an actual emotional reaction.

Duh, maybe I should've signed it goneangling, the way my command of the
language left me there.



RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


Henry Hefner January 5th, 2004 01:20 PM

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I was trying to decide if my mail reader had gone nuts.

go-bassn wrote:
Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot & found
out there's no aol account (surprise), so I figured he
somehow faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account
properties & changed my name to his to see if it would work. It did.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

Warren ;-)



Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 5th, 2004 01:55 PM

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"go-bassn" wrote in message ...
Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot & found out there's no aol
account , so I figured he somehow faked that screenname & email address. I went
into my account properties & changed my name to his to see if it would work.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

That scared me for a moment! I read the post and thought "This post makes sense, I've got to get
some sleep!"

Whew!
--
Steve
OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com



go-bassn January 5th, 2004 06:00 PM

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Ouch, lol. I guess I deserve what's coming to me. I'll bend over now...

Warren ;-)

"Andrew Kidd" wrote in message
news:8BbKb.225331$8y1.928195@attbi_s52...
Boy that was a dumb thing to do! :-) The fake didn't work though, since
his message headers do say that his messages are coming from news.aol.com.
Your message had comcast.net in the header...

I have a funny feeling this thread is going to get a lot longer! :-)
--
Andrew Kidd
http://www.amiasoft.com/ - Software for the rest of us!
http://www.rofb.net/ - ROFB Newsgroup Home


"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot &

found
out there's no aol account , so I figured he somehow
faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account properties

&
changed my name to his to see if it would work.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

Warren ;-)
--
http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/
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"Gone Angling" wrote in message
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Rich, if you watch the scene again you'll hear Mike say "This is the

winning
fish!" as he's bringing it to the boat. I believe he knew that 3 3/4

pound
bass put him over the top. Only seconds before encountering the bass he

was
saying how he fished hard but didn't think he had enough weight on his

limit
to win. He then missed the fish initially with one lure, instinctively
reacted by cranking in the first bait, picked up a second rod with

another
bait on it & followed up the first encounter perfectly, instantly

getting
bit on the follow-up lure. He then got the bass out of the weeds & into

the
boat like a seasoned veteran. He freaked out the instant he got the
lip-lock on the bass, sure enough. Yea, I had to turn down my volume,

but
I
thought the whole scene above was awesome.

Mike screamed things like "Never give up!" & "Bass fishing is great!",

but
I
never heard a single "I'm the greatest!" or "Take that Gary Klein!".

Mike is brash, confident & a little different than most. I'd be the

first
the criticize him if I ever saw him intentionally bring down our sport.
But, frankly, I haven't ever seen him do that.

And I've been beaten by him many times.

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"RichZ" wrote in message
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Go-bassn wrote:
I'm really surprised at some of you guys for disliking the guy just

because
he expresses himself differently than you would.

IMHO, he's not a good enough actor to make the phony level of

exuberance
he
displayed pass for anything resembling reality. I don't have as much

problem
with his on-stage antics as with the way he hammed it up for the

camera
when
he caught his last fish. At that point, he did not know that he had

won,
just
that he had put himself in good position to do so. There wasn't an

ounce
of
real emotion in his display, and it was the equivalent of an NFL

receiver
doing the most over the top endzone dance in history -- after catching

the
ball for a first down on the 20 yard line.

Of course it wasn't JUST Mike. There was a lot of excess celebration

every
time one of them caught a fish. I've ridden in the boat with many of

these
guys in the Classic for a lot of years. NONE has put on an ahole

celebration
every time they caught a fish. In fact, none has gone as nuts onstage

after
winning, as Mike did every time he caught a fish. I blame ESPN. I

think
the
contenders have been coached by ESPN to show as much excitement as

possible,
to make "good TV", and ensure themselves on camera facetime. That they

didn't
act that way when there was only one outdoor writer in the boat with

them,
and the over-the-top celebrations started with the inclusion of the

ESPN
cameras in their boats suggests that the behavior is more linked to

ESPN
than
to their real emotions. And from what I can tell, Mike went farther

overboard
with it than anyone else.


This guy was a mere
Federation boy not half a decade ago fellas, he's lived the dream.

Not sure how that's an excuse, much less a reason. If it was, then

Bryan
Kerchal should have been Mike to the power of 10, since he was still a
Federation guy when he won the Classic.

I applaud Mike's fishing skills. He is obviously right up there with

the
best
of them. But I find his act embarrassing for the sport.

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go-bassn January 5th, 2004 06:02 PM

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It's funny too, because I've had him killfiled for so long. My guess is
he's someone that used to be here everyday...like Bass Rogue.

Just my guess of course...

Warren

"Eric Dreher" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:08:32 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot
found out there's no aol account , so I figured he
somehow faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account
properties & changed my name to his to see if it would work.


For all those who STILL respond to the ninny, ask yourselves just why
would this troll do this except to avoid being tagged by his ISP for
said conduct?


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up in a few short phrases. If it moves, tax it.
If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it
stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan




Rich Conley January 5th, 2004 06:49 PM

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I agree....anyone from the NE area remember Don Sarney's fishing show? He used
to pretty much tell you what lure he was using, weather, water temp, why he wsa
using them...exact location, and then explain retrieves and evertying. He went
out with a good charter captain every week, and they always had some neat
little tricks.

Charlie Moore, on the other hand...will say hes on a lake in the "Northeast"
and then it takes you 15 minutes to figure out what lure hes using....and then
you notice hes using a different lure on almost every fish he catches....

and while its amusing, I really dont want to see adam vinateri kicking
feildgoals off a boat.


Rich

RichZ wrote:

So, I just watched Charlie Moore's new show (Beat Charlie Moore) on ESPN2.
What a waste of TV bandwidth that is!

Charlie had been doing the whole over-excited act forever. I'm sure that he
fits right in with ESPN's vision of outdoors programming. But even he seems
a step down from Mike on the feigned enthusiam scale.

For what it's worth, Ted Ancher, who appeared with Charlie on today's show,
is a classy guy -- and usually a very quiet and serious dude -- who's got
to be embarrased by this show.

RichZ©
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Thundercat January 5th, 2004 11:20 PM

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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:48:27 -0500, "Rich Pierro"
wrote:

I wouldn't judge him personally, but break dancing as poorly as he did
on national TV is embarrassing. And I don't even have a problem with the
screaming reactions after landing a fish, just the awful dancing. I never
thought break dancing was cool, but now it's officially un-cool. Stick to
fishing white boy.


Rich P

He actually nailed the windmill quite nicely. The limited footwork
left a bit to be desired, but I was otherwise (for lack of a better
word) impressed. It has been a number of year since I took the floor
myself...18-19 years maybe, and almost that long since last I taught
break dancing at a local dance studio. Not to bad for an NJ
30-something IMO.

Thundercat

RichZ January 5th, 2004 11:21 PM

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Rich wrote:
anyone from the NE area remember Don Sarney's fishing show?

Yeah, I appeared on it a couple times, actually. Haven't heard or seen
anything from Don in like a decade though. Wonder whatever happened to
him.



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Thundercat January 5th, 2004 11:22 PM

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On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:14:02 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot & found
out there's no aol account (surprise), so I figured he
somehow faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account
properties & changed my name to his to see if it would work. It did.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

Warren ;-)


Going to have to get a t-shirt made up for you that just says:

You Can Call Me Al

:)

Thundercat

Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 5th, 2004 11:50 PM

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"Thundercat" wrote in message SNIP

since last I taught
break dancing at a local dance studio. Not to bad for an NJ
30-something IMO.


ROTFLMAO!!! Thundercat, the dance instructor. I can see him now in his tights and leg warmers....
Oh DARN! Now I've got a visual stuck in my head.......
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ñKs January 6th, 2004 12:10 AM

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Staying alive, staying aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

"Thundercat" wrote in message SNIP

since last I taught
break dancing at a local dance studio. Not to bad for an NJ
30-something IMO.


ROTFLMAO!!! Thundercat, the dance instructor. I can see him now in his

tights and leg warmers....
Oh DARN! Now I've got a visual stuck in my head.......
--
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go-bassn January 6th, 2004 03:34 AM

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I can wear it when I fish for pike with my Boomerang.

WW;-)
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"Thundercat" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 5 Jan 2004 01:14:02 -0500, "go-bassn"
wrote:

Oh, if you're wondering about Al's screenname - I emailed the idiot &

found
out there's no aol account (surprise), so I figured

he
somehow faked that screenname & email address. I went into my account
properties & changed my name to his to see if it would work. It did.

Sorry guys, I'm not Al lol. I have a life...

Warren ;-)


Going to have to get a t-shirt made up for you that just says:

You Can Call Me Al

:)

Thundercat




go-bassn January 6th, 2004 03:39 AM

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Now Harry HAS TO breakdance at the next ROFB Classic...

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"ñKs" wrote in message
...
Staying alive, staying aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message
...

"Thundercat" wrote in message SNIP

since last I taught
break dancing at a local dance studio. Not to bad for an NJ
30-something IMO.


ROTFLMAO!!! Thundercat, the dance instructor. I can see him now in his

tights and leg warmers....
Oh DARN! Now I've got a visual stuck in my head.......
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J Buck January 6th, 2004 03:44 AM

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Staying alive, staying aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Ah...ah...ah...ah Stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive


J Buck January 6th, 2004 03:45 AM

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Staying alive, staying aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Ok, gotta go watch that scene in 'Airplane!' now LoL


Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers January 6th, 2004 04:16 AM

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"go-bassn" wrote in message ...
Now Harry HAS TO breakdance at the next ROFB Classic...

Warren


Oh yeah, that's a given........
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ñKs January 6th, 2004 10:40 PM

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and you can Buck dance ;-)

"J Buck" wrote in message
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Staying alive, staying aliveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Ah...ah...ah...ah Stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive




Gone Angling January 6th, 2004 10:59 PM

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Warren makes a mistake thinking screennames are reserved globally. Calls me an
idiot and then causes Richz, SteveH and few others to join the fracas.



Rich Conley January 7th, 2004 06:55 PM

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Really? Thats cool. What shows were you on? Was my dad's favorite show, hes
more of a salt guy though. Cant get him away from the striper fishing.


I wonder what happened.

RichZ wrote:

Rich wrote:
anyone from the NE area remember Don Sarney's fishing show?

Yeah, I appeared on it a couple times, actually. Haven't heard or seen
anything from Don in like a decade though. Wonder whatever happened to
him.

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RichZ January 7th, 2004 10:44 PM

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Rich wrote:
What shows were you on?

We did one on Congamond, and on on SLug-Go fishing on some lake in Maine.
Indian Lake? Not sure now. It was a long time ago.
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