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RGarri7470 January 7th, 2004 03:48 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against a man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in his bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so they are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou and all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

J Buck January 7th, 2004 04:33 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access to it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline. But I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of my camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd appreciate a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or not.


Joe January 7th, 2004 04:39 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against a man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in his bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so they are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last
year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou and
all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Scares me. When I was fishing club events in Minnesota one venue was
Lizzie-Crystal-Rush. One of the channels had a angry old man that would
stand and stare at us as we went through the no-wake zone by his place. I
would hate to have him think he could get away with shooting over peoples
heads. You can bet that a-hole in LA is bragging to his buddies. BASS may
want to stay away for a few years. See how the county like the lost revenue.
Too many idiots like to copy cat stupid
dangerous things. IMHO!
Joe Z.




Charles B. Summers January 7th, 2004 05:03 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
How many times have you wanted to do this when some ass in a jet-ski or
pleasure boat buzzed past you?

As far as dropping the charges, with no proof... it's ones guys word against
another. But, it does pass the wrong message and is scary to think that
someone else would try this and maybe the next "victim" would not be so
lucky.

--
Charles Summers
Secret Weapon Lures
http://www.secretweaponlures.com
"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against a man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in his bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so they are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last

year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou and

all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com




Marty January 7th, 2004 06:00 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 

RGarri7470 wrote in message
...
This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.


Actually, this happened on the final day of competition.




Carlos January 7th, 2004 11:57 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
I have been shot at. So have many others fishing the Mississippi and
Illinois Rivers. In the fall you want to stay away from anything that looks
like a brushpile. It's probably a duck/goose blind. They can always claim
that they were shooting at a duck. We also had a fellow that was in a
no-wake slough that would get a bit carried away with his shotgun. I never
had a problem with him, but then I observed the no-wake zone. He had also
lived up-river and was known for shooting at tows that got too close to his
dock.

It's not right, but it happens a lot.

Carlos



COOLLURES January 7th, 2004 12:33 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony. unless it is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are exposed for any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff

"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access to it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline. But I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of my camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd appreciate a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or not.




Bob La Londe January 7th, 2004 03:09 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:T0TKb.84060$xX.594189@attbi_s02...
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony. unless it is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are exposed for

any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff


Hmmmm..... I must not understand then. I thought it was legal to wear a
sidearm in non-incorporated areas in Ca.




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access to it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline. But I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of my camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd appreciate a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or not.






Jeff Durham January 7th, 2004 04:18 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
I am both an avid hunter and fisherman. There have been times when duck
hunting that a fisherman comes by your decoys, knows you are hunting there,
and continues to move past your decoys several times. Once or twice is no
problem because it is public water and perhaps he does not know that a
hunter is there. On the fifth or sixth time though? Was that a duck just
flying by over his head? Bang! :-) In seriousness, you just have to
ignore those kind of people and they eventually get bored and move on.

Jeff

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against a man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in his bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so they are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last

year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou and

all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com




RGarri7470 January 7th, 2004 05:10 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
BASS may
want to stay away for a few years. See how the county like the lost revenue.


Unfortunately, that means the idiot with the gun wins - that is exactly what he
wants - no bass boats on his water!
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

RGarri7470 January 7th, 2004 05:12 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony. unless it is
your property


Yall can't duck hunt out there?
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

RGarri7470 January 7th, 2004 05:14 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
RGarri7470 wrote in message
...
This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.


Actually, this happened on the final day of competition.
Marty


Strange - the article says there were no witnesses - I figured on the last day
there would be camera boats following - Klein was in second place, I think -
and I know each fisherman has an observer in the boat with him during
competition.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

Calif Bill January 7th, 2004 08:12 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:T0TKb.84060$xX.594189@attbi_s02...
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony. unless it

is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are exposed for

any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff


Hmmmm..... I must not understand then. I thought it was legal to wear a
sidearm in non-incorporated areas in Ca.




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access to it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline. But

I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of my

camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd appreciate a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or not.


In California, you can wear a gun in unincorporated areas. You can have a
shotgun or pistol in the car, but the gun has to be cased and maybe only the
handgun in a locked case (softcase is OK). You can carry a gun in your
boat, otherwise the duck hunting in the Sac Delta would be hard to
accomplish. That said, maybe the guy was POed about all the bass fisherman
traveling 70 mph in a 5 mph no wake zone. Been out fishing the delta when
the fog is so thick you can only see 50' and hear some bassboat guy
traveling 40-50 mph. If he kills himself is sad for his family, but the
problem is the take out some innocent person. Just because you drive a
Bullet, does not mean you have to run WOT at all times.
Bill



bill allemann January 7th, 2004 08:39 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Maybe Klein was the a-hole here (no-wake, speeding, etc). It sounds like
the guy was on his own property.
If so, I don't know what ordinance he would have violated.

bill

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against a man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in his bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so they are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last

year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou and

all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com




RichZ January 7th, 2004 10:44 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
It's got nothing to do with CA law. The LA in question is Louisianna.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing


ñKs January 7th, 2004 11:03 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Maybe we can send Al?

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:T0TKb.84060$xX.594189@attbi_s02...
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony. unless it

is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are exposed for

any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff


Hmmmm..... I must not understand then. I thought it was legal to wear a
sidearm in non-incorporated areas in Ca.




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access to it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline. But

I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of my

camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd appreciate a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or not.








go-bassn January 7th, 2004 11:10 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Klein gets shot at & you think he might be the a-hole??? "no-wake,
speeding, etc" gets you shot at where you live? If so, please let me know
where you live...so I can stay the you-know-what away!

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in message
...
Maybe Klein was the a-hole here (no-wake, speeding, etc). It sounds like
the guy was on his own property.
If so, I don't know what ordinance he would have violated.

bill

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against a

man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in his

bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so they

are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last

year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou

and
all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com






go-bassn January 7th, 2004 11:12 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
There was most definately a camera man in GK's boat Ronnie (according to
Bassmaster & BASS Times, as well as ESPN's Classic coverage), in fact on the
return trip he filmed the guy as they went by.

Warren

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
RGarri7470 wrote in message
...
This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.


Actually, this happened on the final day of competition.
Marty


Strange - the article says there were no witnesses - I figured on the last

day
there would be camera boats following - Klein was in second place, I

think -
and I know each fisherman has an observer in the boat with him during
competition.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com




go-bassn January 7th, 2004 11:12 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
The Zodiac killer loved that law, lol...

Warren ;-)

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:T0TKb.84060$xX.594189@attbi_s02...
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony. unless

it
is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are exposed

for
any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be

arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff


Hmmmm..... I must not understand then. I thought it was legal to wear

a
sidearm in non-incorporated areas in Ca.




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the

bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access to

it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline. But

I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of my

camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd appreciate

a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or not.


In California, you can wear a gun in unincorporated areas. You can have a
shotgun or pistol in the car, but the gun has to be cased and maybe only

the
handgun in a locked case (softcase is OK). You can carry a gun in your
boat, otherwise the duck hunting in the Sac Delta would be hard to
accomplish. That said, maybe the guy was POed about all the bass

fisherman
traveling 70 mph in a 5 mph no wake zone. Been out fishing the delta when
the fog is so thick you can only see 50' and hear some bassboat guy
traveling 40-50 mph. If he kills himself is sad for his family, but the
problem is the take out some innocent person. Just because you drive a
Bullet, does not mean you have to run WOT at all times.
Bill





COOLLURES January 8th, 2004 02:08 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Ohhhh, that makes a bit more sence... As for wearing a sidearm in the un
incorperated area I wouldnt try it in the areas I lived in unless you owned
the land you were on. Merced and Mariposa arent too friendly on that.
But I can say it is easier to get a firearm in Ca than in IL where I live
now.
Jeff

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
It's got nothing to do with CA law. The LA in question is Louisianna.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing




bill allemann January 8th, 2004 03:23 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details

bill



"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Klein gets shot at & you think he might be the a-hole??? "no-wake,
speeding, etc" gets you shot at where you live? If so, please let me know
where you live...so I can stay the you-know-what away!

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in message
...
Maybe Klein was the a-hole here (no-wake, speeding, etc). It sounds

like
the guy was on his own property.
If so, I don't know what ordinance he would have violated.

bill

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against a

man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in his

bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so they

are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic

last
year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the bayou

and
all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com








RGarri7470 January 8th, 2004 03:38 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details


After following the boat with the gun, he shot above it. That is close enough
for me.
Here is the article from the local paper about it.
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
302.xml
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

bill allemann January 8th, 2004 04:29 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
that's really odd ...
according to local coverage
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
"Authorities said they decided to withhold charges because of limited
physical evidence and the fact that the lone witness - Klein - lives in
Texas."

kind of tough to know what to believe.

speaking of which, you aren't the Warren of the (kennedy) Warren Report,
are you?

bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
There was most definately a camera man in GK's boat Ronnie (according to
Bassmaster & BASS Times, as well as ESPN's Classic coverage), in fact on

the
return trip he filmed the guy as they went by.

Warren

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
RGarri7470 wrote in message
...
This happened during the Bassmasters Classic last year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Actually, this happened on the final day of competition.
Marty


Strange - the article says there were no witnesses - I figured on the

last
day
there would be camera boats following - Klein was in second place, I

think -
and I know each fisherman has an observer in the boat with him during
competition.

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com






Calif Bill January 8th, 2004 06:34 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Actually in those days it was legal to carry an open weapon everywhere. And
I mean everywhere. The law changed in the 60's when the Black Panthers
walked into and demonstrated in the state legislature wearing crossed
bandoliers, and carrying weapons. As to the Zodiac, he was not as scary as
the Zebra Killings. They were scary enough that I carried a 45 in the
truck. Was going to San Francisco State Univ and working nights near
downtown. Servicing computers, so was in and out of the office. 6 of the
killings were within 12 blocks of my office, closest 2 blocks. Funny thing
about that is I chased down a purse snacher about this time while in the
truck. Was asked what I would of done if he pulled a gun. Said I would of
taken care of business.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
The Zodiac killer loved that law, lol...

Warren ;-)

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:T0TKb.84060$xX.594189@attbi_s02...
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony. unless

it
is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few

Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are exposed

for
any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be

arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it

didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff


Hmmmm..... I must not understand then. I thought it was legal to

wear
a
sidearm in non-incorporated areas in Ca.




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the

bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about

this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access to

it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline. But

I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of

my
camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd

appreciate
a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or not.


In California, you can wear a gun in unincorporated areas. You can have

a
shotgun or pistol in the car, but the gun has to be cased and maybe only

the
handgun in a locked case (softcase is OK). You can carry a gun in your
boat, otherwise the duck hunting in the Sac Delta would be hard to
accomplish. That said, maybe the guy was POed about all the bass

fisherman
traveling 70 mph in a 5 mph no wake zone. Been out fishing the delta

when
the fog is so thick you can only see 50' and hear some bassboat guy
traveling 40-50 mph. If he kills himself is sad for his family, but the
problem is the take out some innocent person. Just because you drive a
Bullet, does not mean you have to run WOT at all times.
Bill







Calif Bill January 8th, 2004 06:37 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Did not say it was smart to wear a sidearm in the unincorporated areas, just
is legal.
Bill

"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:gY2Lb.762414$HS4.6028595@attbi_s01...
Ohhhh, that makes a bit more sence... As for wearing a sidearm in the un
incorperated area I wouldnt try it in the areas I lived in unless you

owned
the land you were on. Merced and Mariposa arent too friendly on that.
But I can say it is easier to get a firearm in Ca than in IL where I live
now.
Jeff

"RichZ" wrote in message
...
It's got nothing to do with CA law. The LA in question is Louisianna.

RichZ©
www.richz.com/fishing






Henry Hefner January 8th, 2004 02:16 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 


RGarri7470 wrote:
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details



After following the boat with the gun, he shot above it. That is close enough
for me.
Here is the article from the local paper about it.
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
302.xml
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


That link wouldn't work as is. If others have trouble, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/252x7


Henry Hefner January 8th, 2004 02:23 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 


bill allemann wrote:

that's really odd ...
according to local coverage
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
"Authorities said they decided to withhold charges because of limited
physical evidence and the fact that the lone witness - Klein - lives in
Texas."


Hey! Is that a shot at Texans? You can't be a reliable witness if you
live in Texas? Notice it doesn't say the reason is the witness lives
"out of state", but specifies Texas.


Suthern Transplant January 8th, 2004 03:44 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
I waited until I could read a report on this incident to comment.
I lived in LA for 22 years and was told many times before I fished the Delta
that there are many rules of etticate which should be followed while in the
swamp.
1) Never mess with a commercial fisherman's traps...if you hook one, cut
your line.
2) Obey the no-wake signs (they are everywhere...especially in the sloughs,
next to homes)
3) Respect their way of life...many make their living there...
4) Realize that nearly everyone is armed in the swamp...from snakes to
alligators to who knows what...I was usually armed myself, w/ a 22 for
snakes. (I have had several charge the boat and try to get in)
I have been towed in many times when way out and desperate...I have also
towed in many.
The Cajuns who love their swamps are some of the best people I have ever
met...but when you cross their lines...watch out!
The article does not mention if Klein was not respecting a no-wake zone or
exactly what was offending to the man. I very much doubt the man drew a bead
on him for no reason??
Klein is from TX (which I am from myself), and we are taught early on to
respect other people's property...I would humbly submit to the Bass
Organization to better educate the competitive field in the do's and don'ts
while in LA if they choose to return. Kind of a "when in Rome" thing. IMHO
BTY...I am not condoning someone being shot at...never an excuse for that
except in immanent danger of life to yourself or family...
Suthrn

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...


RGarri7470 wrote:
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the

air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details



After following the boat with the gun, he shot above it. That is close

enough
for me.
Here is the article from the local paper about it.

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
302.xml
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


That link wouldn't work as is. If others have trouble, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/252x7




alwayfishking January 8th, 2004 04:18 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
It doesn't matter what he was doing on the water. There is no reason for
anyone to shoot at or above someone in an attempt to scare or threaten him.
Anyone who thinks this guy had a right to do this is completely insane, if
thats the way they treat things there, Load me up and send me down, next
time someone catches a undersized bass, I send a round towards them, if they
dump trash I'll send two
"Suthern Transplant" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I waited until I could read a report on this incident to comment.
I lived in LA for 22 years and was told many times before I fished the

Delta
that there are many rules of etticate which should be followed while in

the
swamp.
1) Never mess with a commercial fisherman's traps...if you hook one, cut
your line.
2) Obey the no-wake signs (they are everywhere...especially in the

sloughs,
next to homes)
3) Respect their way of life...many make their living there...
4) Realize that nearly everyone is armed in the swamp...from snakes to
alligators to who knows what...I was usually armed myself, w/ a 22 for
snakes. (I have had several charge the boat and try to get in)
I have been towed in many times when way out and desperate...I have also
towed in many.
The Cajuns who love their swamps are some of the best people I have ever
met...but when you cross their lines...watch out!
The article does not mention if Klein was not respecting a no-wake zone or
exactly what was offending to the man. I very much doubt the man drew a

bead
on him for no reason??
Klein is from TX (which I am from myself), and we are taught early on to
respect other people's property...I would humbly submit to the Bass
Organization to better educate the competitive field in the do's and

don'ts
while in LA if they choose to return. Kind of a "when in Rome" thing. IMHO
BTY...I am not condoning someone being shot at...never an excuse for that
except in immanent danger of life to yourself or family...
Suthrn

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...


RGarri7470 wrote:
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the

air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details


After following the boat with the gun, he shot above it. That is close

enough
for me.
Here is the article from the local paper about it.

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
302.xml
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com


That link wouldn't work as is. If others have trouble, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/252x7






Suthern Transplant January 8th, 2004 05:16 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 


Perhaps you didn't read:
BTY...I am not condoning someone being shot at...never an excuse for that
except in immanent danger of life to yourself or family...

and...are you calling me insane?

I was simply adding my 2 cents, and after trying to make sense of this
incendent after reading the article written in a local paper there and
without being present myself...I was simply sharing my experiences on the
delta and the people who live there.

Not trying to be imflamatory by any means.

Surtrn

"alwayfishking" wrote in message
...
It doesn't matter what he was doing on the water. There is no reason for
anyone to shoot at or above someone in an attempt to scare or threaten

him.
Anyone who thinks this guy had a right to do this is completely insane, if
thats the way they treat things there, Load me up and send me down, next
time someone catches a undersized bass, I send a round towards them, if

they
dump trash I'll send two
"Suthern Transplant" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I waited until I could read a report on this incident to comment.
I lived in LA for 22 years and was told many times before I fished the

Delta
that there are many rules of etticate which should be followed while in

the
swamp.
1) Never mess with a commercial fisherman's traps...if you hook one, cut
your line.
2) Obey the no-wake signs (they are everywhere...especially in the

sloughs,
next to homes)
3) Respect their way of life...many make their living there...
4) Realize that nearly everyone is armed in the swamp...from snakes to
alligators to who knows what...I was usually armed myself, w/ a 22 for
snakes. (I have had several charge the boat and try to get in)
I have been towed in many times when way out and desperate...I have also
towed in many.
The Cajuns who love their swamps are some of the best people I have ever
met...but when you cross their lines...watch out!
The article does not mention if Klein was not respecting a no-wake zone

or
exactly what was offending to the man. I very much doubt the man drew a

bead
on him for no reason??
Klein is from TX (which I am from myself), and we are taught early on to
respect other people's property...I would humbly submit to the Bass
Organization to better educate the competitive field in the do's and

don'ts
while in LA if they choose to return. Kind of a "when in Rome" thing.

IMHO
BTY...I am not condoning someone being shot at...never an excuse for

that
except in immanent danger of life to yourself or family...
Suthrn

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...


RGarri7470 wrote:
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the

air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details


After following the boat with the gun, he shot above it. That is

close
enough
for me.
Here is the article from the local paper about it.


http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
302.xml
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

That link wouldn't work as is. If others have trouble, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/252x7








Steve A January 8th, 2004 10:41 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
He's lucky he only got shot at, you ever see Deliverance or Southern comfort
buckeye bassin

alwayfishking January 9th, 2004 03:53 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
No, not saying you were insane... just anyone who thinks along those lines,
it was not intentionally directed at anybody on here.
"Suthern Transplant" wrote in message
hlink.net...


Perhaps you didn't read:
BTY...I am not condoning someone being shot at...never an excuse for that
except in immanent danger of life to yourself or family...

and...are you calling me insane?

I was simply adding my 2 cents, and after trying to make sense of this
incendent after reading the article written in a local paper there and
without being present myself...I was simply sharing my experiences on the
delta and the people who live there.

Not trying to be imflamatory by any means.

Surtrn

"alwayfishking" wrote in message
...
It doesn't matter what he was doing on the water. There is no reason for
anyone to shoot at or above someone in an attempt to scare or threaten

him.
Anyone who thinks this guy had a right to do this is completely insane,

if
thats the way they treat things there, Load me up and send me down, next
time someone catches a undersized bass, I send a round towards them, if

they
dump trash I'll send two
"Suthern Transplant" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I waited until I could read a report on this incident to comment.
I lived in LA for 22 years and was told many times before I fished the

Delta
that there are many rules of etticate which should be followed while

in
the
swamp.
1) Never mess with a commercial fisherman's traps...if you hook one,

cut
your line.
2) Obey the no-wake signs (they are everywhere...especially in the

sloughs,
next to homes)
3) Respect their way of life...many make their living there...
4) Realize that nearly everyone is armed in the swamp...from snakes to
alligators to who knows what...I was usually armed myself, w/ a 22 for
snakes. (I have had several charge the boat and try to get in)
I have been towed in many times when way out and desperate...I have

also
towed in many.
The Cajuns who love their swamps are some of the best people I have

ever
met...but when you cross their lines...watch out!
The article does not mention if Klein was not respecting a no-wake

zone
or
exactly what was offending to the man. I very much doubt the man drew

a
bead
on him for no reason??
Klein is from TX (which I am from myself), and we are taught early on

to
respect other people's property...I would humbly submit to the Bass
Organization to better educate the competitive field in the do's and

don'ts
while in LA if they choose to return. Kind of a "when in Rome" thing.

IMHO
BTY...I am not condoning someone being shot at...never an excuse for

that
except in immanent danger of life to yourself or family...
Suthrn

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...


RGarri7470 wrote:
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in

the
air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details


After following the boat with the gun, he shot above it. That is

close
enough
for me.
Here is the article from the local paper about it.


http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
302.xml
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

That link wouldn't work as is. If others have trouble, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/252x7










go-bassn January 9th, 2004 06:34 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 

"bill allemann" wrote in message
news:415Lb.374
speaking of which, you aren't the Warren of the (kennedy) Warren Report,
are you?


Uh...no.

WW




go-bassn January 9th, 2004 06:42 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
With all due respect Bill, when you live in a city every year you hear
stories of an 8-year old kid catching a bullet in the head from some
gang-rowdie just firing his gun "in the air". If anyone in the bayou has a
problem they have a right to call the authorities, not to discharge firearms
over someone's head...

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in message
y.com...
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details

bill



"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Klein gets shot at & you think he might be the a-hole??? "no-wake,
speeding, etc" gets you shot at where you live? If so, please let me

know
where you live...so I can stay the you-know-what away!

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in message
...
Maybe Klein was the a-hole here (no-wake, speeding, etc). It sounds

like
the guy was on his own property.
If so, I don't know what ordinance he would have violated.

bill

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges against

a
man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in

his
bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so

they
are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic

last
year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the

bayou
and
all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com









go-bassn January 9th, 2004 06:43 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
atta boy Bill. CA seems like a haven for serial killers & other crazies...

WW

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Actually in those days it was legal to carry an open weapon everywhere.

And
I mean everywhere. The law changed in the 60's when the Black Panthers
walked into and demonstrated in the state legislature wearing crossed
bandoliers, and carrying weapons. As to the Zodiac, he was not as scary

as
the Zebra Killings. They were scary enough that I carried a 45 in the
truck. Was going to San Francisco State Univ and working nights near
downtown. Servicing computers, so was in and out of the office. 6 of the
killings were within 12 blocks of my office, closest 2 blocks. Funny

thing
about that is I chased down a purse snacher about this time while in the
truck. Was asked what I would of done if he pulled a gun. Said I would

of
taken care of business.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
The Zodiac killer loved that law, lol...

Warren ;-)

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:T0TKb.84060$xX.594189@attbi_s02...
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in

your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony.

unless
it
is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few

Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are

exposed
for
any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be

arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it

didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff


Hmmmm..... I must not understand then. I thought it was legal to

wear
a
sidearm in non-incorporated areas in Ca.




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the

bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about

this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access

to
it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline.

But
I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front of

my
camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd

appreciate
a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or

not.


In California, you can wear a gun in unincorporated areas. You can

have
a
shotgun or pistol in the car, but the gun has to be cased and maybe

only
the
handgun in a locked case (softcase is OK). You can carry a gun in

your
boat, otherwise the duck hunting in the Sac Delta would be hard to
accomplish. That said, maybe the guy was POed about all the bass

fisherman
traveling 70 mph in a 5 mph no wake zone. Been out fishing the delta

when
the fog is so thick you can only see 50' and hear some bassboat guy
traveling 40-50 mph. If he kills himself is sad for his family, but

the
problem is the take out some innocent person. Just because you drive

a
Bullet, does not mean you have to run WOT at all times.
Bill









Calif Bill January 9th, 2004 07:23 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Well, it is the "Granola State". What is not fruits and nuts, is flaky.
but we were smart enough to fire the last governor. Except I do not think
the Legislature has gotten the message.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
atta boy Bill. CA seems like a haven for serial killers & other

crazies...

WW

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...
Actually in those days it was legal to carry an open weapon everywhere.

And
I mean everywhere. The law changed in the 60's when the Black Panthers
walked into and demonstrated in the state legislature wearing crossed
bandoliers, and carrying weapons. As to the Zodiac, he was not as scary

as
the Zebra Killings. They were scary enough that I carried a 45 in the
truck. Was going to San Francisco State Univ and working nights near
downtown. Servicing computers, so was in and out of the office. 6 of

the
killings were within 12 blocks of my office, closest 2 blocks. Funny

thing
about that is I chased down a purse snacher about this time while in the
truck. Was asked what I would of done if he pulled a gun. Said I would

of
taken care of business.
Bill

"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
The Zodiac killer loved that law, lol...

Warren ;-)

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
...
"COOLLURES" wrote in message
news:T0TKb.84060$xX.594189@attbi_s02...
I lived in Cali for 14 years, A shotgun or any other firearm in

your
possession on or in a park or public access land is a felony.

unless
it
is
your property you have no right to carry a fire arm. The few

Concealed
permits that are given are just that concealed. If they are

exposed
for
any
reason other than life threatening conditions you can still be
arrested.

Something doesn't seem right about the story. Not saying that it

didnt
happen, But doesnt seem right.

Jeff


Hmmmm..... I must not understand then. I thought it was legal to

wear
a
sidearm in non-incorporated areas in Ca.




"J Buck" wrote in message
...
Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on

the
bayou
and all his neighbors supported him. What do you think about

this?

Unless Shotgun Boy (and his neighbors) own the lake and access

to
it,
tough. Cowboy up and realize you have a camp on the shoreline.

But
I'll
admit it's a fine line. I don't mind a boat going by in front

of
my
camp
at a reasonable distance from shore. But close up?...I'd

appreciate
a
slow speed and no profanity, whether youngsters are around or

not.


In California, you can wear a gun in unincorporated areas. You can

have
a
shotgun or pistol in the car, but the gun has to be cased and maybe

only
the
handgun in a locked case (softcase is OK). You can carry a gun in

your
boat, otherwise the duck hunting in the Sac Delta would be hard to
accomplish. That said, maybe the guy was POed about all the bass
fisherman
traveling 70 mph in a 5 mph no wake zone. Been out fishing the

delta
when
the fog is so thick you can only see 50' and hear some bassboat guy
traveling 40-50 mph. If he kills himself is sad for his family, but

the
problem is the take out some innocent person. Just because you

drive
a
Bullet, does not mean you have to run WOT at all times.
Bill











mayor January 11th, 2004 05:08 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Kind of reminds me of back in 1977, I was a part time cop in Ohio. I pulled
a guy over for driving almost 70 mph in town no lights, and 3 AM. After I
arrested him for DWI. I found a 22 in his car and over 500 rounds on the
back seat. I asked him why he had all those rounds and he said Sometimes
when he canoeing down the river. kids throw rocks and he scares them off
with that pistol. He never got it back
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
With all due respect Bill, when you live in a city every year you hear
stories of an 8-year old kid catching a bullet in the head from some
gang-rowdie just firing his gun "in the air". If anyone in the bayou has

a
problem they have a right to call the authorities, not to discharge

firearms
over someone's head...

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in message
y.com...
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the

air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details

bill



"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
Klein gets shot at & you think he might be the a-hole??? "no-wake,
speeding, etc" gets you shot at where you live? If so, please let me

know
where you live...so I can stay the you-know-what away!

Warren

"bill allemann" wrote in

message
...
Maybe Klein was the a-hole here (no-wake, speeding, etc). It sounds

like
the guy was on his own property.
If so, I don't know what ordinance he would have violated.

bill

"RGarri7470" wrote in message
...
Prosecutors in LA announced today they were dropping charges

against
a
man
arrested for firing a shotgun in the air as Gary Klein went by in

his
bass
boat. Seems there were no witnesses and no physical evidence so

they
are
dropping the charges. This happened during the Bassmasters Classic

last
year -
during practice, I guess since Klein was alone.

Seems the guy was upset about boats running by his place on the

bayou
and
all
his neighbors supported him.

What do you think about this?

Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com











J Buck January 11th, 2004 06:13 AM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
I asked him why he had all those rounds and he said Sometimes when he
canoeing down the river. kids throw rocks and he scares them off with
that pistol

Did you or anyone else ever follow up those kids?


Steve Erwin January 11th, 2004 02:46 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
Yes it does matter. That is the way it is down here. Love it or leave it,
the choice is yours. People have to realize that there are still illegal
things that goes on in the swamps. This aint no Club Med place.

"alwayfishking" wrote in message
...
It doesn't matter what he was doing on the water. There is no reason for
anyone to shoot at or above someone in an attempt to scare or threaten

him.
Anyone who thinks this guy had a right to do this is completely insane, if
thats the way they treat things there, Load me up and send me down, next
time someone catches a undersized bass, I send a round towards them, if

they
dump trash I'll send two
"Suthern Transplant" wrote in message
hlink.net...
I waited until I could read a report on this incident to comment.
I lived in LA for 22 years and was told many times before I fished the

Delta
that there are many rules of etticate which should be followed while in

the
swamp.
1) Never mess with a commercial fisherman's traps...if you hook one, cut
your line.
2) Obey the no-wake signs (they are everywhere...especially in the

sloughs,
next to homes)
3) Respect their way of life...many make their living there...
4) Realize that nearly everyone is armed in the swamp...from snakes to
alligators to who knows what...I was usually armed myself, w/ a 22 for
snakes. (I have had several charge the boat and try to get in)
I have been towed in many times when way out and desperate...I have also
towed in many.
The Cajuns who love their swamps are some of the best people I have ever
met...but when you cross their lines...watch out!
The article does not mention if Klein was not respecting a no-wake zone

or
exactly what was offending to the man. I very much doubt the man drew a

bead
on him for no reason??
Klein is from TX (which I am from myself), and we are taught early on to
respect other people's property...I would humbly submit to the Bass
Organization to better educate the competitive field in the do's and

don'ts
while in LA if they choose to return. Kind of a "when in Rome" thing.

IMHO
BTY...I am not condoning someone being shot at...never an excuse for

that
except in immanent danger of life to yourself or family...
Suthrn

"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...


RGarri7470 wrote:
the description of the incident said the property owner shot "in the

air".
that isn't being "shot at".
details, details


After following the boat with the gun, he shot above it. That is

close
enough
for me.
Here is the article from the local paper about it.


http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisi...-6/10734017417
302.xml
Ronnie

http://fishing.about.com

That link wouldn't work as is. If others have trouble, try this one:
http://tinyurl.com/252x7








mayor January 11th, 2004 07:44 PM

Got Shot At Lately?
 
My Chief looked into it .No one reported missing or hurt.
"J Buck" wrote in message
...
I asked him why he had all those rounds and he said Sometimes when he
canoeing down the river. kids throw rocks and he scares them off with
that pistol

Did you or anyone else ever follow up those kids?





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